Two 16-year old boys rape a girl three times in Finland. Walks away with 11 month probation and 90 h - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Virtanen;38205006]meanwhile a university student gets 200 000€ fines for sharing files, a gardening supply store owner gets 4 years without chance for parole for "propagating the drug trade" just another day in the finnish justice system[/QUOTE] At least it's not as brute force as ours. "You smoked weed once? 2 years in jail. You stabbed a man? 1 1/2 years. You could've hurt someone when you were high!" [QUOTE=Jon27;38192842]Fuck secondary school kids,[/QUOTE] Gee, thanks.

Welcome to Europe, murder will give you a 3 year sentence, but you'll get off with 5 months if you've been a good boy. Hurray for the juridic system! (and of cours similarities for other "threats") Also, something that would typically happen in Finland, noone gives a fuck there.

Wonder how much would the penalty be for killing those two fuckers?

[QUOTE=Axelius;38204880]It's just that these news storys have popped up in the past, and the finnish media never says what nationality the rapist was, and after some digging it seems to always be the "culture enrichers".[/QUOTE] right and the possibility for the rapist to have been native finnish is absolute 0 right i just don't see the point in saying such a thing unless you wanna dog-whistle some racism around. he wasn't asking a question, he was making an assertion which was pretty xenophobic. i mean if i say "i bet it was a mexican" in a thread about a US rape it would be a shit storm.

[QUOTE=thisispain;38205621]right and the possibility for the rapist to have been native finnish is absolute 0 right i just don't see the point in saying such a thing unless you wanna dog-whistle some racism around. he wasn't asking a question, he was making an assertion which was pretty xenophobic. i mean if i say "i bet it was a mexican" in a thread about a US rape it would be a shit storm.[/QUOTE] It might be likely that the rapists where from foreign descent as it is very common in Finland, it's just more then often swept under the rug.

[QUOTE=thisispain;38200562]"culture enrichers" i'm not finnish but i know a sarcastic name for immigrants when i see one, it's just nice to see orkel is fine with racist bullshit as long as it's in a different language[/QUOTE] nothing racist about that name, it's acceptable over here and you don't really get the meaning unless you're finnish [editline]27th October 2012[/editline] think of it as a finnish inside joke

[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;38193683]Jesus christ. Get some of that on video and post it along with the kid's personal info online. Watch the magic. Or, send it to the police and hope there's magic.[/QUOTE] I agree with this man, if the fucking sick bastards think low ridicule is fun, let them have a taste, internet style [editline]27th October 2012[/editline] or 4Chan will send then pizza over and over and over I don't know, either way something is bound to happen

[QUOTE=Orkel;38206511]nothing racist about that name, it's acceptable over here and you don't really get the meaning unless you're finnish [editline]27th October 2012[/editline] think of it as a finnish inside joke[/QUOTE] uh that's not the racist bit dude the racist bit is the part where you assume that immigrants did it lol way to not even get the point [editline]27th October 2012[/editline] and duh, the meaning is obvious

[QUOTE=thisispain;38212952]uh that's not the racist bit dude the racist bit is the part where you assume that immigrants did it lol way to not even get the point [editline]27th October 2012[/editline] and duh, the meaning is obvious[/QUOTE] I'm not assuming it, I made sure of it from [url=http://pastebin.com/2vg8pAzN]the court documents[/url] hence "bingo" aka "you're right". Let me explain the meaning of "kulttuurinrikastaja". Basically, for the past few years, the Finnish government has encouraged heavy immigration for several reasons, one being "culture enrichment". Over the years, every time an immigrant has raped a woman, people tend to call those particular rapists (not all immigrants) as "culture enrichers", referencing the Finnish government's policies. It's more of a jab at the government rather than a purely racist term.

yeah that's basically the same everywhere in europe, just it's in finnish. in the UK they say it's "multiculturalism". it's still dog-whistling, and you forget one thing: [quote]I'm not assuming it, I made sure of it from the court documents hence "bingo" aka "you're right".[/quote] except he was making a bet so it's obvious he didn't know anything about the court documents whatever dude, i understand banning finnish people will get you into hot water or whatever, but it's still the same shit everyone hates just in a different language

[QUOTE=thisispain;38213130]i understand banning finnish people will get you into hot water or whatever[/QUOTE]if Orkel bans one of us we'll all be at his door with pitchforks and torches in five seconds

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[QUOTE=Orkel;38213072]I'm not assuming it, I made sure of it from [url=http://pastebin.com/2vg8pAzN]the court documents[/url] hence "bingo" aka "you're right". Let me explain the meaning of "kulttuurinrikastaja". Basically, for the past few years, the Finnish government has encouraged heavy immigration for several reasons, one being "culture enrichment". Over the years, every time an immigrant has raped a woman, people tend to call those particular rapists (not all immigrants) as "culture enrichers", referencing the Finnish government's policies. It's more of a jab at the government rather than a purely racist term.[/QUOTE] What difference can you honestly draw between the phrase 'culture enricher' used in a sarcastic manner and 'multiculturalism' or 'diversity' used in a sarcastic manner? I somehow doubt that it being in Finnish lends some context to it that non-Finnish people cannot comprehend.

[QUOTE=Joazzz;38214245]if Orkel bans one of us we'll all be at his door with pitchforks and torches in five seconds[/QUOTE] yeah that was what i was implying obviously last time i messed with one of the nationalities on FP i almost got perma'd by a mod so i'm gonna be extra careful

[QUOTE=thisispain;38213130]yeah that's basically the same everywhere in europe, just it's in finnish. in the UK they say it's "multiculturalism". it's still dog-whistling[/QUOTE] No, it's really not.

very convincing

[QUOTE=thisispain;38214747]very convincing[/QUOTE] Obviously you have been born and raised in Finland and know 100% about it's culture and the general behavior of people and that surely everything has 100% same meaning in finnish as in english. Sure, makes sense. [editline]28th October 2012[/editline] The term "culture enrichers" has always been a jab at the odd policy of mass immigration that one certain minister has vigorously defended due to it "increasing jobs" even thought companies have been falling left and right for last decade.

What sick cunts

[QUOTE=Orkel;38213072]I'm not assuming it, I made sure of it from [url=http://pastebin.com/2vg8pAzN]the court documents[/url] hence "bingo" aka "you're right". Let me explain the meaning of "kulttuurinrikastaja". Basically, for the past few years, the Finnish government has encouraged heavy immigration for several reasons, one being "culture enrichment". Over the years, every time an immigrant has raped a woman, people tend to call those particular rapists (not all immigrants) as "culture enrichers", referencing the Finnish government's policies. It's more of a jab at the government rather than a purely racist term.[/QUOTE] that's pretty racist bro

[QUOTE=Orkel;38213072]I'm not assuming it, I made sure of it from [url=http://pastebin.com/2vg8pAzN]the court documents[/url] hence "bingo" aka "you're right". Let me explain the meaning of "kulttuurinrikastaja". Basically, for the past few years, the Finnish government has encouraged heavy immigration for several reasons, one being "culture enrichment". Over the years, every time an immigrant has raped a woman, people tend to call those particular rapists (not all immigrants) as "culture enrichers", referencing the Finnish government's policies. It's more of a jab at the government rather than a purely racist term.[/QUOTE] Same problem in Sweden, and you know who's fault it is? Not the immigrants, the damn government - because we're dealing with immigrants in a really shitty way and there is no party apart from the all nationalistic and racist party Sverigedemokraterna (The Swedish Democrats).

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;38219049]Same problem in Sweden, and you know who's fault it is? Not the immigrants, the damn government - because we're dealing with immigrants in a really shitty way and there is no party apart from the all nationalistic and racist party Sverigedemokraterna (The Swedish Democrats).[/QUOTE] So if an immigrant rapes a woman, then it's the government's fault?

[QUOTE=PatrickT;38219472]So if an immigrant rapes a woman, then it's the government's fault?[/QUOTE] No it is the individuals fault, you miss my point.

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;38220048]No it is the individuals fault, you miss my point.[/QUOTE] Then why do you blame the government when such an individual rapes a woman? It's the government's fault that they let those people into Sweden, but hold it accountable for what the immigrants did? They are fully aware of what they are doing, fully aware of what is right and what is wrong. Descent/culture/nationality is not an excuse.

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;38192833]Alright so these kids go to jail for 2 years, come out at age 18 and then what... you expect them to be better people by then, get honest jobs or take up on their missed education?[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;1ejvh43ogvg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ejvh43ogvg[/video] lol

[QUOTE=PatrickT;38220428]Then why do you blame the government when such an individual rapes a woman? It's the government's fault that they let those people into Sweden, but hold it accountable for what the immigrants did? They are fully aware of what they are doing, fully aware of what is right and what is wrong. Descent/culture/nationality is not an excuse.[/QUOTE] What I'm saying is that the Swedish government is taking care of the immigrants badly, and that it is one of the reasons why so many become criminals. I'm not talking specifically about rape. This is not the only problem with the government not dealing with the question - a lot of immigrants have it much better than a swede in the same situation.

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;38221585]What I'm saying is that the Swedish government is taking care of the immigrants badly, and that it is one of the reasons why so many become criminals. I'm not talking specifically about rape. This is not the only problem with the government not dealing with the question - a lot of immigrants have it much better than a swede in the same situation.[/QUOTE] Wat. Why, why does this feel like the argument that happens when Affirmative Action comes up?

[QUOTE=Bobie;38215643]that's pretty racist bro[/QUOTE] Why the fuck do you people try to swing everything towards racism? It's like you're just waiting for someone to post something and then jump on him calling him racist. Thisispain does it too.

[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;38221931]Why the fuck do you people try to swing everything towards racism? It's like you're just waiting for someone to post something and then jump on him calling him racist. Thisispain does it too.[/QUOTE] Mayhaps it is because someone inevitably acts racist. They never need to wait very long.

[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;38221931]It's like you're just waiting for someone to post something and then jump on him calling him racist. Thisispain does it too.[/QUOTE] it's like Sam Jackson and Bruce Willis yelling at eachother about racism in Die Hard With a Vengeance

[QUOTE='[Green];38204987']This. A lot of immigrants seem to have trouble adapting to a different kind of society and these rub badly against them in the news.[/QUOTE] I don't know what culture they come from but goddamn what the fuck is the culture's norm for raping women and thinking it's OK?