Trump says he’ll copy the attacks Bernie used against Hillary - Polidicks

[QUOTE=proboardslol;50218969]Bernie is a populist, too, but there are just more racists in this country than there are socialists[/QUOTE] and almost all of them are on the liberal side :godzing:

CNN says he has 991 now, RCP says he has 992, I have no idea how he'll lose the nomination unless all those uncommitted delegates desert him between now and the first vote. Manafort is a hell of a delegate wrangler I guess.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50219141]Because he attacked her stances and political points instead of damaging her character through mudslinging, rhetoric and catch-phrases :v:[/QUOTE] Literally this. Trump is saying that his strategy will be to go after her character and personal flaws in an attempt to distract people from his policies which are wildly unfavorable amongst independents.

[QUOTE=Aztec;50219376]This sounds great until you realize -There's still a chance the GOP will steal the nomination from him causing him to go third party. Easy win for Hillary -Trump's largest voterbase has been white republicans and he's insulted a lot of minorities that he hasn't had to face yet -Let's not forget that Clinton has a near monolithic control of the minority vote -I think people are overestimating how many Bernie supporters are going to flip to trump/not vote, I think just as many or more will flip to Hillary when it comes down to it. -Obama will be a powerful ally of Hillary Clinton once the general election campaign starts. -All polls since last summer have indicated that trump will get defeated by Hillary. -I'm sure Bernie Sanders himself will be speaking out against donald trump throughout the general election as well. Some more food for thought. Is Trump really prepared to spend millions and millions of his own money in the general election?[/QUOTE] If Trump has the vast majority, even if not a clinching number, then he will get the nomination. The GOP would only even give it to someone else at the convention if they were confident that it wouldn't cause a massive shit storm and virtually guarentee a loss in the general election. It would be political suicide, no way that it happens.

[QUOTE=Tsyolin;50223425]If Trump has the vast majority, even if not a clinching number, then he will get the nomination. The GOP would only even give it to someone else at the convention if they were confident that it wouldn't cause a massive shit storm and virtually guarentee a loss in the general election. It would be political suicide, no way that it happens.[/QUOTE] True. However, when has the GOP ever been rational? :v:

[QUOTE=sb27;50218682]I see what Trump is doing. He knows there's a significant number of anti-establishment voters who typically lean Democrat but would jump ship and go to the Republicans if they had an anti-establishment candidate. There's no merit in anything he's saying, it's just political games to grab votes.[/QUOTE] You are acting as if he is doing something other politicians dont, jeez. I mean I am strongly anti-Trump, but that's not valid criticism. "Games to grab votes". Sounds like you are accusing him of doing things to win presidency.

Bernie never really did attack Hillary though, most of their debates were just "yeah, I agree but..." and the interviews from Bernie tended to just have him turning a question about Hillary's policy around to talking about his alternative policy. But hey, if Trump plans ok being really lenient with her I wouldn't complain. But I think he may just be pandering for the anti-establishment voters. Isn't it funny that for such an honest and anti politician bloke Trump is very scheming and manipulative?

Many Bernie supporters [B]will[/B] jump ship to Trump because they would never support a crooked candidate like Hillary.

[QUOTE=orgornot;50226591]Many Bernie supporters [B]will[/B] jump ship to Trump because they would never support a crooked candidate like Hillary.[/QUOTE] Imo being paid to be progressive is better than being an outright bigot. If I was American I'd vote Bernie first and Hillary second.

if bernie loses and hillary pulls out the olive branch and asks him to be VP i will probably vote for her, otherwise i'll probably not vote at all.

It should be interesting to see what happens this election when likely record numbers of people will apathetically refrain from voting and thus leave the election at the hands of those unaware of the size of their own actions on both sides.

[QUOTE=orgornot;50226591]Many Bernie supporters [B]will[/B] jump ship to Trump because they would never support a crooked candidate like Hillary.[/QUOTE] How many, exactly?

[QUOTE=orgornot;50226591]Many Bernie supporters [B]will[/B] jump ship to Trump because they would never support a crooked candidate like Hillary.[/QUOTE] Keep dreaming, Berniebrat. 70% of Bernie supporters will vote Clinton. There are 2 types of Sanders supporters: People who likes Sanders' policies nd character, but will vote for Clinton if she wins. People who usually don't vote or voting for the first time, but will vote for Bernie because he is anti establishment. The 1st type are very common and are reasonable. The 2nd type of people are the loud obnoxious minority, usually well off white boys (coincidently form Sanders' core supporters) who can afford to have a GOP POTUS, and will vote for a GOP like Trump.

Crooked Hillary is bound by her donors & special interests so she cannot have any real liberal/progressive policies. Trump can do things like increase the cap on social security whereas hillary cannot. When Trump wins, everyone (the people in America) will benefit. He's going to bring jobs back, secure the borders, negotiate better trade deals, make good college tuition deals, and defend the country. Those are just a few of many great things that will come. He can do all of this because he is not bound by donors/special interests unlike all the other politicians.

[QUOTE=migs42;50229976]70% of Bernie supporters will vote Clinton.[/QUOTE] You'd better hope it's more than that, if 30% of Bernie's supporters vote Trump he'll win.

[QUOTE=AlexConnor;50230455]You'd better hope it's more than that, if 30% of Bernie's supporters vote Trump he'll win.[/QUOTE] I imagine a large portion of them will either abstain from voting or just vote third party instead of voting for either candidate, to be honest, though I expect the majority to vote for Hillary, if she avoids jail. Regardless, if either Trump or Sanders make it to the general election I believe traditional polling methods will be less accurate than they have historically been.

[QUOTE=proboardslol;50218969]Bernie is a populist, too, but there are just more racists in this country than there are socialists[/QUOTE] Social Democracy and Socialism are very different things

[QUOTE=soulharvester;50230468]I imagine a large portion of them will either abstain from voting or just vote third party instead of voting for either candidate, to be honest, though I expect the majority to vote for Hillary, if she avoids jail.[/QUOTE] If 70% vote Hillary, 15% vote Trump and the rest independent/abstain etc then that will still practically erase her lead. And I can't really see Trump losing ground to Hillary, he's been very effective so far at demolishing opponents and Hillary has tons of dirt for him to work with.

People forget that you can't win a US presidential election by appealing exclusively to angry white people any more. Minority support is critical and Trump is historically unpopular amongst latinos and blacks.

Paid shills and uninformed people keep saying "Trump only supports white people". This is false. Trump has supporters among many minorities including blacks, latinos. He will help them by bringing in jobs back to the country. This will help everyone.

[QUOTE=orgornot;50230717]Paid shills and uninformed people keep saying "Trump only supports white people". This is false. Trump has supporters among many minorities including blacks, latinos. He will help them by bringing in jobs back to the country. This will help everyone.[/QUOTE] Trump has a minority of the minority vote. He hardly has "support". Especially when facing off with Clinton over the minority vote. The fact you're repeating his buzzwords and punchlines ad-nauseum makes the whole "Paid shills and uninformed people keep saying" fucking hilarious. Better to be paid off then a genuine idiot falling for populist rhetoric lmao.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;50230829]Better to be paid off[/QUOTE] Hillary supporters, everyone. Trump is tied with crooked hillary nationally. And he hasn't even started on her yet. Keep that in mind going forward before spouting "but he won't get minority votes!!!".

[QUOTE=orgornot;50230863]Hillary supporters, everyone.[/QUOTE] Don't particularly care for her, but whatever. She's still better than a xenophobic baby who gets worked up and sues everyone if they say no to him.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;50230900]Don't particularly care for her, but whatever. She's still better than a xenophobic baby who gets worked up and sues everyone if they say no to him.[/QUOTE] Hahaha now this is just hilarious (no pun intended). So according to hillary voters Trump has been suing his way to the nomination. People are sick and tired of all the established politicians doing absolutely nothing for them and just representing their donors and special interests. In 10 months he became the front-runner of one of the largest political parties in the world because the people like him. Donald Trump will represent the people because he isn't bought out by big banks and corporations (which crooked hillary is).

[QUOTE=orgornot;50230924]Hahaha now this is just hilarious (no pun intended). So according to hillary voters Trump has been suing his way to the nomination. People are sick and tired of all the established politicians doing absolutely nothing for them and just representing their donors and special interests. In 10 months he became the front-runner of one of the largest political parties in the world because the people like him. Donald Trump will represent the people because he isn't bought out by big banks and corporations (which crooked hillary is).[/QUOTE] established =/= establishment

[QUOTE=orgornot;50230717]Paid shills and uninformed people keep saying "Trump only supports white people". This is false. Trump has supporters among many minorities including blacks, latinos. He will help them by bringing in jobs back to the country. This will help everyone.[/QUOTE] [t]https://aw1nlndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3n0lmnvbq00.g00.www.washingtonpost.com/g00/TU9SRVBIRVVTNCRodHRwczovL2ltZy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vcmYvaW1hZ2VfMTQ4NHcvMjAxMC0yMDE5L1dhc2hpbmd0b25Qb3N0LzIwMTYvMDMvMzAvTmF0aW9uYWwtUG9saXRpY3MvR3JhcGhpY3MvMjMwMC13ZWFrY2FuZGlkYXRlMDN4eC5qcGc%2FdXVpZD1GRktHc3ZhV0VlV1ZqZEE0MnNibkdB/$/$/$/$/$/$/$/$/$/$[/t] [U]Hispanics:[/U] [url=http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-fenn/articles/2016-03-21/trump-has-deep-demographic-problems-come-the-2016-general-election] Washington Post polling shows 80 percent have an unfavorable opinion of Donald Trump. Romney got 27 percent of the Hispanic vote, Trump will be lucky to reach the upper teens.[/url] [U]White People:[/U] [url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/03/05/new-poll-shows-trump-supporters-more-likely-to-fear-a-majority-minority-u-s/]What explains Trump’s astounding success among the Republican electorate, despite his controversial statements about topics related to race and immigration? A number of political scientists have found that those statements might actually be a key reason for his success. Support for Trump is highest among whites who express ethnocentric viewpoints, score high on measures of authoritarianism, identify strongly as white, and who express negative views of racial minorities. Now a new poll that we conducted adds another dimension. In particular, we directly measured Americans’ fear of the demographic change that is projected to make the United States a majority-minority nation by the year 2043. Recent work has found that white Americans, once told about this impending demographic shift, are more likely to identify with the Republican Party, to express conservative policy positions, and view themselves as conservatives.[/url]

[QUOTE=Rossy167;50225648]Bernie never really did attack Hillary though, most of their debates were just "yeah, I agree but..." and the interviews from Bernie tended to just have him turning a question about Hillary's policy around to talking about his alternative policy. But hey, if Trump plans ok being really lenient with her I wouldn't complain. But I think he may just be pandering for the anti-establishment voters. Isn't it funny that for such an honest and anti politician bloke Trump is very scheming and manipulative?[/QUOTE] He's attacked Hillary plenty. He just never had the courage to do it directly. All his talking about her getting money from wall street was just another way of calling her a shill and a lier.

There's not being courageous and there's also not wanting to pull the same kind of crap as everyone else.

[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;50231365]There's not being courageous and there's also not wanting to pull the same kind of crap as everyone else.[/QUOTE] Except he was saying it, just in an indirect, passive aggressive way. There's no other conclusion to his comments. Insinuating attacks doesn't make a person more honorable. Imo, it makes them out to either be conniving or cowardly.

[QUOTE=migs42;50229976]Keep dreaming, Berniebrat. 70% of Bernie supporters will vote Clinton. There are 2 types of Sanders supporters: People who likes Sanders' policies nd character, but will vote for Clinton if she wins. People who usually don't vote or voting for the first time, but will vote for Bernie because he is anti establishment. The 1st type are very common and are reasonable. The 2nd type of people are the loud obnoxious minority, usually well off white boys (coincidently form Sanders' core supporters) who can afford to have a GOP POTUS, and will vote for a GOP like Trump.[/QUOTE] Not much to worry about there, if most Bernie supporters were capable of voting he would be winning right now.