Oh my good god. This whole time I've been confusing Bernie Sanders with Harry Reid.
I only figured out that that's what I was doing when my mom pointed out that they are not the same person.
[QUOTE=Bonde;47630379]Take this with a grain of salt, just early morning "what if" thoughts:
Some times when I look at US politics I wonder why the United States doesn't split up into two separate federal states instead of one large one.
The opinions of the conservative right seem so utterly incompatible with the modern societies of the larger cities, that the conservative states might as well just break off and create their own nation, with their own conservative laws.
The modern cities on the west and east coast could also break off and found more progressive nations instead of being held back by the conservatives of the midwest and south.
I know that the last time this was tried, it resulted in a bloody civil war that lead to a unified USA, and such an attempt probably would again if attempted, at least right now.
I mean Scandinavia has been under control of different nations at different points. The nations gained their independence, but still work closely together, without going through the pains of having one massive government trying to rule it all.
Eh, I'm rambling. It would probably never happen. Small country point of view.[/QUOTE]
Because the actual population spread would make the south mostly democrat. The only way the republicans actually dominate is through gerrymandering, its no coincidence that southern states have more strange gerrymandered districts. The democrats are just as guilty of this its true, but to say the republicans own the south is false, they make you perceive that they own the south, really if districts were spread over similar geographical areas they wouldn't be able to pen in the democrat voters into one or two seats per state, the two platforms would actually have to compete for voters, most districts in the US are noncompedative and widely favor one party and minimize seats to the other party.
Its a blight that has stagnated US politics because all republicans are cut from the same band of jabbering idiots and all democrats are penned into the same urban-hipster districts. This similar-minded heard is why both parties have gone further and further towards their particular corner instead of stay in the middle with the majority of US voters
Fuck yeah! Go bernie!
[QUOTE=joes33431;47635824]uhh
that's 20 out of 188 democratic seats
that's over 10 percent
alienating one tenth of your party isn't exactly a strategy that wins legislative victories when it literally comes down to singular votes
moderate democrats are the reason that we don't have single-payer healthcare right now - it had to be removed from the ACA to pass.[/QUOTE]
I just looked and apparently it's only 14 seats in the House. But yeah I agree with you. Apparently their quickly losing popularity, though.
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;47621472]it's funny for a second until I remember that these are actual people.
[editline]28th April 2015[/editline]
how the heck can anyone still believe that Obama is a muslim? why? because he isn't white?
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That is [I]precisely[/i] why.
[QUOTE=artDecor;47640671]Burlington telecom lawsuit. Someone fucking explain.[/QUOTE]
I've tried looking it up. Not much on it I can vouch for. But I did hear of it and it seems its the fault of his wife. I am interested in knowing, too, however.
This will be the first presidential vote I'll legally be able to do and it'll be with someone I actually support.
Have the US ever had a candidate running for presidency openly announcing himself to be a socialist in post-McCarthyist era?
Also:
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[QUOTE=Black;47641649]Have the US ever had a candidate running for presidency openly announcing himself to be a socialist in post-McCarthyist era?[/QUOTE]
Yes. Several.
Third parties are a thing here, but they mostly exist within their local regions/state level.
[QUOTE=Black;47641649]Have the US ever had a candidate running for presidency openly announcing himself to be a socialist in post-McCarthyist era?
Also:
[thumb]http://i.imgur.com/GCOVi0J.png[/thumb][/QUOTE]
Clinton has the more money, as dirty as it is.
Clinton can goto hell. She'll cause nothing but grief in this country, and fuck over the working class to give tax breaks to her corporate friends.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;47641678]Yes. Several.
Third parties are a thing here, but they mostly exist within their local regions/state level.[/QUOTE]
I just got into reading US politics, and it seems that third parties do exist and people run from them (as much as it seems they actually do not based on their representation in your government) but they have so little chance of winning that voting for them is considered a "spoiler", meaning your vote is wasted on what could be a vote for a centre-left party (Democrats) instead of the very right-winged Republicans. I guess I should phrase my question like this then:
Has there ever been a openly-announced socialist running for the Democrat Party, post-McCarthyist era?
[QUOTE=Antdawg;47630792]The ACA didn't need a single Republican vote to pass. The Democrats even had a supermajority in the Senate.[/QUOTE]
This gets brought up every fucking time, but you know what? It's such a twisting of contexts. For the entire time the supermajority existed, there was non stop republican nonsense about the supermajority railroading shit through. Obama, being the naive fool he is, offered a hand across the party lines to respond to the primarily republican call for bipartisanship. When that happened, the ACA was hijacked and virtually ruined, and then the Republicans who broke it got to spend the next few years complaining about all the shit they stuck in "Obamacare".
Yeah, they SHOULD have railroaded it through, but if they'd done that, the republican backlash would have been just as bad and they'd have had just as many attempts to appeal it if not more
[QUOTE=OvB;47621415][img]http://i.imgur.com/9rWuAgH.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Are americans really this dumb? Please tell me it's a troll page.
[QUOTE=Hyperbole;47643512]Are americans really this dumb? Please tell me it's a troll page.[/QUOTE]
I can easily find people just as dumb from other nations.
Breaking: dumb people are everywhere
[QUOTE=ThePinkPanzer;47646704]I can easily find people just as dumb from other nations.
Breaking: dumb people are everywhere[/QUOTE]
Currently, there are 0 dumb people on the Sun.
We have the technology to kill two birds with one stone here...
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