• Cee Lo Green Changes 'Imagine' Lyrics To 'All Religions' From John Lennon's 'No Religion' During New
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[QUOTE=Raptortheawesome;34003201]If all religion were true, would the Gods have a huge fight?[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/49/American_gods.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;34003739]people seem to forget that a lack of religious belief doesn't automatically make you a good person. pol pot's khmer rouge were atheistic, as was stalins USSR. both regimes were responsible for millions of deaths. there's no such thing as bad christians or bad atheists, just bad people who happen to be christians or atheists.[/QUOTE] TL;DR version: [b]Religious people can be dicks, but not all of them are. Atheists can be dicks, but not all of them are. DON'T BE A DICK[/b]
[QUOTE=Cone;34003753]That's probably the most clever thing I've yet heard on religion.[/QUOTE] heh, thanks. that put a smile on my face :)
[QUOTE=Cone;34003753]That's probably the most clever thing I've yet heard on religion.[/QUOTE] What he said should be fairly common knowledge
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;34003786]Humanity's first recorded war was over [I]salt.[/I][/QUOTE] I like how you failed to notice how "no retarded conflicts over them" means no religion fueled wars and not war as a whole.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;34003786]Humanity's first recorded war was over [I]salt.[/I][/QUOTE] Funny but so? I'm not saying religion is a sole or reigning motivator for war.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;34003824]TL;DR version: [b]Religious people can be dicks, but not all of them are. Atheists can be dicks, but not all of them are. DON'T BE A DICK[/b][/QUOTE] But, if you think about it, being dicks has allowed humanity to spread itself across the globe and discover wonderful technologies. Being a dick is okay sometimes :v:
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;34003633]Hardly, he was a christian in name and that was it[/QUOTE] I'm going to have to ask for a source for this. [QUOTE=Marbalo;34003653]Jesus christ I never hated militant internet atheists so bad in my life before. The alteration didn't fucking change the message, he meant well and the end result in both cases would be peace. If John Lennon was alive today to hear this, he wouldn't give a shit and rather support it because both versions endorse peace. In fact, he probably would've spat on these militant atheists. [editline]2nd January 2012[/editline] Seriously, fuck those people.[/QUOTE] I'd still prefer "militant" atheists, to militant theists. At least these people are just voicing their opinion, not running around blowing up innocent civilians and burning abortion clinics. I also doubt that his reason is actually true. I think he did it due to the majority of Americans being (conservative) Christians.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;34003651]He turned on the catholic church and tried to replace it with his own church that put nazi ideology over the bible.[/QUOTE] Well what the fuck does that changes ? He's still not atheist.
[QUOTE=Tippmann357;34003844]I like how you failed to notice how "no retarded conflicts over them" means no religion fueled wars and not war as a whole.[/QUOTE] I tried to show that people have retarded conflicts over [I]everything.[/I] If it's a conflict, it's usually retarded.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;34003786]Humanity's first recorded war was over [I]salt.[/I][/QUOTE] Well basically from the Roman Empire and before salt was worth more or about the same as gold, even Roman soldiers were sometimes paid in salt in addition to, or instead of, gold (which is where the word [I]salary[/I] comes from) So while it sounds ridiculous today in the ancient war salt was a valuable resource over which war was justifiable (at least in their perspective)
[QUOTE=Mechanical43;34003853]Well what the fuck does that changes ? He's still not atheist.[/QUOTE] Almost no one back then was an atheist, doesn't mean religion was his motive.
[QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;34003070]But it shits on the songs message. No religion = no retarded conflicts over them etc.[/QUOTE] To be fair though people will always find reasons to fight wars.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;34003860]I tried to show that people have retarded conflicts over [I]everything.[/I] If it's a conflict, it's usually retarded.[/QUOTE] You're just stating the obvious. Although people fight over anything, it is much easier when each group believes in a common cause such as religion.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;34003894]Almost no one back then was an atheist, doesn't mean religion was his motive.[/QUOTE] I get what you're saying, but you seem to play that quacko fauxnews '' hitler was atheist, ergo atheists are evil '' I believe he used the church, as any other wise dictator would do if he wanted more support. More of a tool if you like.
[QUOTE=Mechanical43;34003958]I get what you're saying, but you seem to play that quacko fauxnews '' hitler was atheist, ergo atheists are evil '' I believe he used the church, as any other wise dictator would do if he wanted more support. More of a tool if you like.[/QUOTE] I by no means believe that hitler did what he did because he was an atheist, but I highly doubt he had any real religious conviction either.
This really has no religious agenda, dumb of people to react like this.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;34003739]people seem to forget that a lack of religious belief doesn't automatically make you a good person. pol pot's khmer rouge were atheistic, as was stalins USSR. both regimes were responsible for millions of deaths. there's no such thing as bad christians or bad atheists, just bad people who happen to be christians or atheists.[/QUOTE] Some people are good and some evil, regardless of their beliefs, this is true, however in order for a good person to commit evil, all it takes is religion. [QUOTE=Marbalo;34003881]how about no militant anything. and who gives a shit why he did it, [B]the message is the same[/B].[/QUOTE] No, it isn't? Lennon was an atheist, and believed religion to be of a negative nature, and that shines clearly through in this song. Unless of course you change the lyrics in fear of being reprimanded.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;34003977]I by no means believe that hitler did what he did because he was an atheist, but I highly doubt he had any real religious conviction either.[/QUOTE] hitler did what he did because he was a evil lunatic
Kathy griffin is so fuckin hot.
[QUOTE=Taishu;34003995]Some people are good and some evil, regardless of their beliefs, this is true, however in order for a good person to commit evil, all it takes is religion. No, it isn't? Lennon was an atheist, and believed religion to be of a negative nature, and that shines clearly through in this song. Unless of course you change the lyrics in fear of being reprimanded.[/QUOTE] and all it takes for an 'evil' person to do good can be religion. ever heard about criminals who become born again christians and turn away from crime?
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;34004001]hitler did what he did because he was a evil lunatic[/QUOTE] Pretty much, that and pressure for other government officials.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;34004001]hitler did what he did because he was a evil lunatic[/QUOTE] An evil genius lunatic I don't mean to offend anyone or cause a shitstorm but he was a pretty smart individual
[QUOTE=Marbalo;34003881]and who gives a shit why he did it, [B]the message is the same[/B].[/QUOTE] He said the message was the same (well, [I]almost[/I] the same), but that doesn't mean that it is. He can say that he meant "you can believe whatever you want and no one will care", but he didn't say that, he said "all religion's true". To say that those really mean the same thing is a huge stretch. At this point it's not even 'defending the original message', it's 'grammar nazism'.
"Fuck You".
[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;34004082]An evil genius lunatic I don't mean to offend anyone or cause a shitstorm but he was a pretty smart individual[/QUOTE] a genius creates, all hitler did was destroy.
forget you cee Lo!!!! you're talkin a whole lota shhh
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;34004180]a genius creates, all hitler did was destroy.[/QUOTE] Well he [I]did[/I] try his hand at art.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;34004180]a genius creates, all hitler did was destroy.[/QUOTE] That's very arguable, a genius can create as easily as he can destroy Look at Einstein, his genius allowed the creation of the most powerful weapon mankind had ever seen (nuclear weapons) but at the same time if used for good his genius created a source of energy (nuclear power plants) (I know that he didn't create either of these himself, his theories allowed their creation though)
[QUOTE=Last or First;34004192]Well he [I]did[/I] try his hand at art.[/QUOTE] Funny enough, so did Stalin. All he drew were naked men.
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