Cee Lo Green Changes 'Imagine' Lyrics To 'All Religions' From John Lennon's 'No Religion' During New - Polidicks

[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;34004082]An evil genius lunatic I don't mean to offend anyone or cause a shitstorm but he was a pretty smart individual[/QUOTE] Hitler was a moron, most of his plans failed miserably.

[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;34004215]That's very arguable, a genius can create as easily as he can destroy Look at Einstein, his genius allowed the creation of the most powerful weapon mankind had ever seen (nuclear weapons) but at the same time if used for good his genius created a source of energy (nuclear power plants) (I know that he didn't create either of these himself, his theories allowed their creation though)[/QUOTE] yes and hitler 'created' a regime responsible for some of the most deplorable acts in the history of mankind. he wasn't a genius he was a manipulative and charismatic psychopath. the nazi's had many geniuses and he certainly wasn't one of them.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;34004256]yes and hitler 'created' a regime responsible for some of the most deplorable acts in the history of mankind. he wasn't a genius he was a manipulative and charismatic psychopath. the nazi's had many geniuses and he certainly wasn't one of them.[/QUOTE] I agree, genius was too strong a word.

[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;34004272]I agree, genius was too strong a word.[/QUOTE] Well, I suppose it depends on how you look at it. He wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed, but he was undeniably very good at manipulating people and seizing their initiative. I suppose it's a bit like he knew everything except what was useful in leading a nation, though manipulation is arguably an incredibly useful tool in such a thing.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;34004051]and all it takes for an 'evil' person to do good can be religion. ever heard about criminals who become born again christians and turn away from crime?[/QUOTE] Is an action with positive consequences good, regardless of the motivation? Wouldn't you rather the criminal left his habits behind because he wanted to, rather than due to fear from some imaginary bronze age deity? Besides the negatives far outweigh the positives.

[QUOTE=Cone;34004345]Well, I suppose it depends on how you look at it. He wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed, but he was undeniably very good at manipulating people and seizing their initiative. I suppose it's a bit like he knew everything except what was useful in leading a nation, though manipulation is arguably an incredibly useful tool in such a thing.[/QUOTE] He wasn't entirely bad, and it is naive to ignore the good things he did do for Germany, however all the good is pretty much out weighed by the bad.

Watch the political speeches that got millions of people to believe and follow Hitler and try to say he isn't an incredibly talented speaker. Hitler was a political mastermind. Regardless, this is irrelevant.

[QUOTE=Tippmann357;34003935]You're just stating the obvious. Although people fight over anything, it is much easier when each group believes in a common cause such as religion.[/QUOTE] True. Maybe I just suck at wording :v:

[QUOTE=Tippmann357;34004417]Watch the political speeches that got millions of people to believe and follow Hitler and try to say he isn't an incredibly talented speaker. Hitler was a political mastermind. Regardless, this is irrelevant.[/QUOTE] While it is irrelevant I just think I should add that this is more of what I meant by my post and I am sorry for partly derailing

[QUOTE=minilandstan;34003196]You're also ignoring the fact that the past couple of wars weren't even based on religion. Middle East war (war on terrorism): Rebel forces want our shit outta their country. That's all i'm going to say about it.[/QUOTE] There is no relevance to the war on terrorism in afganistan, there is the taliban which is extremely religious and then there is al qaeda (which is barely there these days, only 50 members last time I checked) which wages war on us because we sent troops to saudi arabia - their holy land, and for other various reasons , especially fucking around with muslims in palestine. The taliban, and other insurgent groups constantly state that the US are blasphemers etc, there are plenty of documentaries showing this as well, like the PBS frontline documentary where a journalist spends 10 days with a group in Bagram. Let alone being STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF A CIVIL WAR BETWEEN SHIITES AND SUNNIS IN IRAQ! Based upon religion, perhaps not, but they're fighting us for religious reasons, and I don't care if we went there for other reasons, that's besides the point of why there is a war there.

[QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;34003847]Funny but so? I'm not saying religion is a sole or reigning motivator for war.[/QUOTE] Religion plays a very small role in wars. In fact the only example of a war caused by religious differences that I can think of off the top of my head is the Thirty Years War, and even then there were several other factors involved including certain nations wanting more power in the region. Oh yea, and the Crusades. However the Crusades in the middle east had less to do with religious differences and more to do with the Muslims persecuting Christians, and later it became a power struggle over trade(between Constantinople and Venice), and a power struggle between the Crusader States and the Muslim empires that claimed their land. So yea, in summary religion is not the cause of war. Power, and the pursuit of power, is the cause of war.

[QUOTE=Baldr 2.0;34003044]Sitting in front of your tv recording it with your video camera on new years eve. Why?[/QUOTE] Ever heard of a DVR?

[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;34003697]World war I started mainly because AH wanted to stop the spread of pan slavicism and stabilize control of The Balkans (under it's own rule), and Serbia was seen as main obstacle in it. French used that as an advantage for previous war with Germany, Germany was allied with Austria and chain reaction began. I have to say this is wrong, at least in Serbia's case. It was already tough after 2 Balkan wars, and they had to rebuild the country. They accepted all points of AH's ultimatum except the one where they have right to do investigation about the assassination on Serbia's territory. Do note that AH knew that Serbia would turn down that ultimatum and just wanted an excuse to attack Serbia. Unfortunately for them, they lost the war and exactly opposite of what they wanted happened.[/QUOTE] No thats not true. Hitler was still a soldier of mediocre rank during World War 1. The anti slavic idea was not popular until after the first world war, as he included it in his ethnic propaganda. World War 1 was really a chain reaction of the alliances in Europe, triggered by the assasination of the Austrian crown prince by Serbian freedom fighters (Serbia was occupied by Austria at this point) who did not foresee the consequences. Austria was allied with Germany and Serbia with Russia, so we had a German Russian conflict at hand, wich triggered the all of Europe to run wild, because everyone was Allied with everyone and had to step in.

[QUOTE=Taishu;34004401]Is an action with positive consequences good, regardless of the motivation? Wouldn't you rather the criminal left his habits behind because he wanted to, rather than due to fear from some imaginary bronze age deity? Besides the negatives far outweigh the positives.[/QUOTE] you're assuming he left his habits behind due to fear. when i embraced christianity i didn't do it for any fear of any deities retribution (i don't believe in the after life) i did it because i felt the message of jesus christ represented a better way to live than the way i was living.

[QUOTE=Tippmann357;34004417]Watch the political speeches that got millions of people to believe and follow Hitler and try to say he isn't an incredibly talented speaker. Hitler was a political mastermind. Regardless, this is irrelevant.[/QUOTE] True, true. Though it all adds up to a genuinely unpleasant person when you take it with his supposed "relationship" with his neice, making him (back then, at least) the very definition of a villain with good publicity, which is somewhat ironic considering his appearance now.

[QUOTE=V3cT0r;34004495]No thats not true. Hitler was still a soldier of mediocre rank during World War 1. The anti slavic idea was not popular until after the first world war, as he included it in his ethnic propaganda. World War 1 was really a chain reaction of the alliances in Europe, triggered by the assasination of the Austrian crown prince by Serbian freedom fighters (Serbia was occupied by Austria at this point) who did not foresee the consequences. Austria was allied with Germany and Serbia with Russia, so we had a German Russian conflict at hand, wich triggered the all of Europe to run wild, because everyone was Allied with everyone and had to step in.[/QUOTE] What is fascinating is that World War 1 was indirectly caused by Napoleon, and by extension the French Revolution, due to the power systems that eventually came forward after Napoleon was defeated. It's amazing how some events can reverberate and still have an effect 100 years later.

[QUOTE=Mon;34003015]incoming internet atheist rage rampage[/QUOTE] I'm an atheist and I agree with him, people are free to believe what they want, I respect others for their religion as much as I expect them to respect me for not believing in any of them.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;34004529]What is fascinating is that World War 1 was indirectly caused by Napoleon, and by extension the French Revolution, due to the power systems that eventually came forward after Napoleon was defeated. It's amazing how some events can reverberate and still have an effect 100 years later.[/QUOTE] Well, y'know what they say about butterflies and hurricanes, don't you? Makes me wonder how many world-changing events happened because of somebody, say, deciding to get one kind of drink over the other. Quite fascinating, really.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;34004496]you're assuming he left his habits behind due to fear. when i embraced christianity i didn't do it for any fear of any deities retribution (i don't believe in the after life) i did it because i felt the message of jesus christ represented a better way to live than the way i was living.[/QUOTE] Christianity can technically be called a philosophy in that you're just following the teachings of Jesus, technically the religion is the beliefs of the specific denominations of Christianity

Kinda contradicts the first verse. I'm surprised he didn't change that as well.

The comments on that article are unbelievable. [quote]Never loved CeLo ... didn't care about him either way. Now I am totally against him and everyting that he does!!!![/quote]

[QUOTE=Mon;34003015]incoming internet atheist rage rampage[/QUOTE] I find what he said hilarious actually (that all religion is true). We could have a boxing match between Zeus and Thor, or maybe Yahweh vs Apollo.

But people can't believe what they want. People should not believe at all.

atheists got mad? I didn't

[QUOTE=Noble;34004687]I find what he said hilarious actually. We could have a boxing match between Zeus and Thor, or maybe Yahweh vs Apollo.[/QUOTE] it must be confusing to hear all song lyrics as completely literal

[QUOTE=Noble;34004687]I find what he said hilarious actually (that all religion is true). We could have a boxing match between Zeus and Thor, or maybe Yahweh vs Apollo.[/QUOTE] Not fair, Apollo wasn't really the most powerful of the Greek gods, while you're comparing him to an individual who's supposed to be an unstoppable deity of immense power (The Greek gods are more human like and have faults)

[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;34004653]Christianity can technically be called a philosophy in that you're just following the teachings of Jesus, technically the religion is the beliefs of the specific denominations of Christianity[/QUOTE] You are actively denying the factt that Christian believes requires the church as an integral part of god. Of course "be good to people" is a nice thing to say but by reducing Christianity to a mere way of philosophy by forgetting church you are only looking at the good things.

[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;34004713]Not fair, Apollo wasn't really the most powerful of the Greek gods, while you're comparing him to an individual who's supposed to be an unstoppable deity of immense power (The Greek gods are more human like and have faults)[/QUOTE] True.. I think yahweh would kick his ass, but you never know with the greeks. [QUOTE=Lachz0r;34004704]it must be confusing to hear all song lyrics as completely literal[/QUOTE] It was the first thing that came to mind. Anyway, I don't see how any atheist can be upset over this. This is not worth getting mad over.

[QUOTE=Killuah;34004739]You are actively denying the factt that Christian believes requires the church as an integral part of god. Of course "be good to people" is a nice thing to say but by reducing Christianity to a mere way of philosophy by forgetting church you are only looking at the good things.[/QUOTE] I am saying the teachings of Jesus, the denominations all have different interpretations as to what these teachings and the Bible mean

Funny how it was changed only because it showed favortism to atheism. Yet all the songs that mention God are ok, even if it's obvious it's referring to the Judeo Christian god.