Cee Lo Green Changes 'Imagine' Lyrics To 'All Religions' From John Lennon's 'No Religion' During New - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Kung Fu Jew;34003532]Hitler was a renowned atheist[/QUOTE] [img]http://atheistoasis.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/hitler-attends-church.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/hitler-catholic-monster.gif[/img] [quote]"I believe that Providence would never have allowed us to see the victory of the Movement if it had the intention after all to destroy us at the end. " "Today I must humbly thank Providence, whose grace has enabled me, who was once an unknown soldier in the War, to bring to a successful issue the struggle for the restoration of our honor and rights as a nation." "I can give vent to my inmost feelings only in the form of humble thanks to Providence which called upon me and vouchsafed it to me, once an unknown soldier of the Great War, to rise to be the Leader of my people, so dear to me. Providence showed me the way to free our people from the depths of its misery without bloodshed and to lead it upward once again. Providence granted that I might fulfill my life's task-to raise my German people out of the depths of defeat and to liberate it from the bonds of the most outrageous dictate of all times... I have regarded myself as called upon by Providence to serve my own people alone and to deliver them from their frightful misery." "I did not want this struggle. Since January, 1933, when Providence entrusted me with the leadership of the German Reich, I had an aim before my eyes which was essentially incorporated in the program of our National Socialist party. I have never been disloyal to this aim and have never abandoned my program... Only when the entire German people become a single community of sacrifice can we expect and hope that Almighty God will help us. The Almighty has never helped a lazy man. He does not help the coward. He does not help a people that cannot help itself. The principle applies here, help yourselves and Almighty God will not deny you his assistance."[/quote] Adolf Hitler was a stereotypical nationalistic Austrian-German Catholic.

I get a (strong) feeling he inserted it as satire towards religious people; and strong athiests. Which I fully support. Edit: Main reason being that John Lennon wrote the original song not as an anti-religious act; but to show that if we stopped caring about what other people think, we would never be fighting. Cee Lo Green will have caused people to consider getting angry at him; many people have - but also convey the original message of the song: Stop caring about things that don't really matter. He's saying think what you want, don't take what other people think personally, and we can live in proper peace.

[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;34004767][IMG]http://atheistoasis.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/hitler-attends-church.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/hitler-catholic-monster.gif[/IMG] Adolf Hitler was a stereotypical nationalistic Austrian-German Catholic.[/QUOTE] If he was a stereotypical catholic why did he turn on them and try to replace it with his own church dedicated to him? Meeting with clergy men is usually more of a political stunt than anything else and doesn't really definitely determine a persons religious beliefs.

[QUOTE=Killuah;34004739]You are actively denying the factt that Christian believes requires the church as an integral part of god. Of course "be good to people" is a nice thing to say but by reducing Christianity to a mere way of philosophy by forgetting church you are only looking at the good things.[/QUOTE] i seem to recall jesus spending more time traveling from place to place spreading his message than he spent in temple. where in the bible does it even say you have to go to church?

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;34003651]He turned on the catholic church and tried to replace it with his own church that put nazi ideology over the bible.[/QUOTE] Actually, he just wanted to make it a feasible part of Catholicism for men to practice polygamy- with a focus on those deemed Aryans-- and therefore produce more Aryan children which one day would grow up and serve as soldiers. He did not want to replace it with a separate religion that "put Nazi ideology over the Bible". [QUOTE=carcarcargo;34004776]If he was a stereotypical catholic why did he turn on them and try to replace it with his own church dedicated to him? Meeting with clergy men is usually more of a political stunt than anything else and doesn't really definitely determine a persons religious beliefs.[/QUOTE] See above. There are hundreds of quotes from Hitler, at various stages in his life, which show he was a religious person. The photographs just add to the mound of proof. Indeed, when he was young, he considered joining the church as a priest (he was a choirboy at one point, funnily enough). Alfred Rosenberg was the person a lot of people mix this commonly repeated myth up with. He was the one who advocated creating a new sort of political religion to replace mainstream practices and beliefs- in which the government and National Socialist ideology were the focal points. Hitler, though he was fond of Rosenberg, never consented nor gave any appreciation to this concept and simply dismissed it.

of course it's impossible that all religions are true, but isn't the song called "imagine" anyway

[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;34004799]Actually, he just wanted to make it a feasible part of Catholicism for men to practice polygamy- with a focus on those deemed Aryans-- and therefore produce more Aryan children which one day would grow up and serve as soldiers. He did not want to replace it with a separate religion that "put Nazi ideology over the Bible". See above.[/QUOTE] Having read into it, a lot of officials close to Hitler said he was quite anti christian, which can be seen where Goebbels stated that Hitler war "deeply religious but entirely anti-Christian." Although it is correct that he wasn't atheist, which he associated with communism.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;34004812]of course it's impossible that all religions are true, but isn't the song called "imagine" anyway[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say that it's impossible they're all true. Who knows, maybe God's just not aware of other ones because that would contradict his religion and thus his own existence, causing him and everything else to implode. So I think of it as a sort of a weird paradoxical Back to the Future thing, which I'm fairly certain the Pope wouldn't approve of.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;34004864]Having read into it, a lot of officials close to Hitler said he was quite anti christian, which can be seen where Goebbels stated that Hitler war "deeply religious but entirely anti-Christian." Although it is correct that he wasn't atheist, which he associated with communism.[/QUOTE] Goebbels himself was anti-Christian. Even so, however, he reported that Hitler believed Jesus himself was out to "end world Jewish domination" until "Jewry had him crucified"; his gripes were with what Paul had written about Jesus, saying that he "falsified his doctrine and undermined ancient Rome". Hitler himself confirmed this belief when he wrote in Mein Kampf: [i]"Christ made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross"[/i]. Lots of other people he privately associated himself with (such as von Ludendorff, von Faulhauber, Rosenberg, Gerhard Engel, Count von Lerchenfeld-Köfering, Ludwig Müller, and Hanns Kerrl) said he was a Christian as well.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;34003553]So essentially if no one had any ideologies or beliefs no one would fight, but instead we would have a load of sheeple.[/QUOTE] Even atheists have no common consensus on beliefs and ideologies. Many aren't even concerned with the existence of religion. We are the vocal few who think organized religion is just another one of the world's problems that needs to go away. It alone won't solve much, but like anything, it's a good step in the right direction. Changing the lyrics of the song like that does in fact defeat the intent and meaning of it.

[QUOTE=FlakAttack;34005067]Even atheists have no common consensus on beliefs and ideologies. Many aren't even concerned with the existence of religion. We are the vocal few who think organized religion is just another one of the world's problems that needs to go away. It alone won't solve much, but like anything, it's a good step in the right direction. Changing the lyrics of the song like that does in fact defeat the intent and meaning of it.[/QUOTE] Religion is at most, a justification for the worlds problems such as terrorist groups, but it is by no means the main cause.

[QUOTE=FlakAttack;34005067]Even atheists have no common consensus on beliefs and ideologies. Many aren't even concerned with the existence of religion. We are the vocal few who think organized religion is just another one of the world's problems that needs to go away. It alone won't solve much, but like anything, it's a good step in the right direction. Changing the lyrics of the song like that does in fact defeat the intent and meaning of it.[/QUOTE] from what i've seen a lot of internet atheists tend to be frustrated teenagers / 20-somethings who take themselves too seriously

Still sounds delicious to my ears.

[QUOTE=Mon;34005300]from what i've seen a lot of internet atheists tend to be frustrated teenagers / 20-somethings who take themselves too seriously[/QUOTE] Depends on where you go, like anything. Head over to forums where Christians tend to congregate, and you'll see some shit that is straight up weird or even scary. It's another complete leap of logic to assume that all Christians are like that, but there is one difference between both situations: the atheist who takes himself too seriously has no excuse to enable him to be like that. To put it another way, the responsibility is his and his alone. The religious extremist has their god or holy text to enable them. In their minds, responsibility falls to god. Once again, removing organized religion as an enabler of bad/stupid ideas and deeds will not solve the problem on its own; there would be a lot more work involved... but it would help.

I'm more concerned as to why he was wearing a bathrobe while singing seriously, fat black dude, get your shit together

[QUOTE=latin_geek;34005473]I'm more concerned as to why he was wearing a bathrobe while singing seriously, fat black dude, get your shit together[/QUOTE] Because he is super fly. When you are super fly you get to do shit like that.

[QUOTE=latin_geek;34005473]I'm more concerned as to why he was wearing a bathrobe while singing seriously, fat black dude, get your shit together[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/TGllC.jpg[/IMG] you don't tell this man how to dress. i hope you guys realize this is the man you are getting angry at/about

[QUOTE=Mon;34005300]from what i've seen a lot of internet atheists tend to be frustrated teenagers / 20-somethings who take themselves too seriously[/QUOTE] Unless you mean something other than 'atheists on the internet' by that term, then I would say that's not true.

[QUOTE=Mon;34005300]from what i've seen a lot of internet atheists tend to be frustrated teenagers / 20-somethings who take themselves too seriously[/QUOTE] nice vague passive-aggressive comment

[QUOTE=Mon;34005300]from what i've seen a lot of internet atheists tend to be frustrated teenagers / 20-somethings who take themselves too seriously[/QUOTE] From what I've seen a lot of christians and atheists alike are good people [editline]2nd January 2012[/editline] I just realized we are discussing religion on a thread about an obese pop star that changed the lyrics of a song.

[QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;34003070]But it shits on the songs message. No religion = no retarded conflicts over them etc.[/QUOTE] America is home to large populations of Christians, Jews and Muslims (as well as many, many others) who live together in peace, while maintaining their culture and traditions however they see fit. If you truly want a world with 'no religion,' you'd be destroying a gigantic part of humanity and it's culture and heritage. Religion is no more responsible for war or conflict than any other personality trait or cultural element, and I think this 'Cee Lo Green' (who I have not heard of until now) made a dramatic improvement to the song's original lyrics with this change.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;34003346]"Yo I meant no disrespect by changing the lyric guys! I was trying to say a world were u could believe what u wanted that's all." he didn't LITERALLY mean that all religion is true. he is imagining a world where everybody can believe in what they want. jeez[/QUOTE] This. People, quit bitching and overreacting, period. I'm atheist by the way, not that it's relevant, just so you know I'm not saying that just because I'm religious. I think it's a good message and change.

[QUOTE=Ordigenius;34005708]From what I've seen a lot of christians and atheists alike are good people [editline]2nd January 2012[/editline] I just realized we are discussing religion on a thread about an obese pop star that changed the lyrics of a song.[/QUOTE] lol i'm fine with atheists, just when they hit the internet some of them just get strange

[QUOTE=Mon;34005914]lol i'm fine with atheists, just when they hit the internet some of them just get strange[/QUOTE] by "strange" I'm guessing you mean "they don't have to worry about real-life consequences for treading on people's absurd unsubstantiated beliefs"

[QUOTE=Turnips5;34006027]by "strange" I'm guessing you mean "they don't have to worry about real-life consequences for treading on people's absurd unsubstantiated beliefs"[/QUOTE] this is a pretty good example of what i'm talking about

[QUOTE=Mon;34006167]this is a pretty good example of what i'm talking about[/QUOTE] ive heard people with only three letters in their name have a strange tendency to be giant queefs, only on the internet though

It's pretty fucking stupid to get mad about this. The original lyrics might have caused a real shitstorm and this way, nobody has anything to complain about and it still promotes the message of peace in each's own beliefs. The only people to get mad at this are the militant athiests who if they're willing to get butthurt over this tiny change, must be more intolerant than the people they criticize.

[QUOTE=Turnips5;34006027]by "strange" I'm guessing you mean "they don't have to worry about real-life consequences for treading on people's absurd unsubstantiated beliefs"[/QUOTE] Yeah. It's not okay to be an asshole just because you feel that there's no consequences.

[QUOTE=Mon;34005300]from what i've seen a lot of internet atheists tend to be frustrated teenagers / 20-somethings who take themselves too seriously[/QUOTE] I'm impressed by how every single post I've ever seen from you in a religion thread is so consistently awful and devoid of substance.

"All Religions" would be nice too if he meant them all coexisting. I don't think it really changes the message too much.