Cee Lo Green Changes 'Imagine' Lyrics To 'All Religions' From John Lennon's 'No Religion' During New - Polidicks

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;34008238]Okay then. I am a Deist. I believe the universe was created by an all-powerful being who no longer interferes in the affairs of this universe. Prove me wrong. Oh wait! You can't... That's funny, isn't it? So stop acting like you know an undeniable proven truth, because you don't. [editline]2nd January 2012[/editline] Seriously, your arrogance is revolting[/QUOTE] There is a teapot orbiting the Sun somewhere between here and Mars. Prove me wrong. (Look up Russel's Teapot)

[QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;34008347]Then why believe it?[/QUOTE] I don't know, I'm not actually a Deist. There is no consensus on how the big bang actually began. So why believe in the big bang at all? Deism provides another possible answer for the beginning of the big bang.

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;34008409]I don't know, I'm not actually a Deist. There is no consensus on how the big bang actually began. So why believe in the big bang at all? Deism provides another possible answer for the beginning of the big bang.[/QUOTE] There's more logic and science behind the big bang than the idea that an all-powerful being created the universe.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34008425]There's more logic and science behind the big bang than the idea that an all-powerful being created the universe.[/QUOTE] You did not really answer my question. The two are not mutually exclusive. Few agree on how the big bang started, and yet there is a general consensus that it happened. It seems a bit illogical to believe in something when there is no solid evidence as to why it happened. It seems almost unscientific... no? Now, based upon decades of research, it is pretty clear that the big bang happened. But how can you flat out deny one explanation for its occurrence and not deny all the others, which have not been proven and contradict each dramatically?

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34008425]There's more logic and science behind the big bang than the idea that an all-powerful being created the universe.[/QUOTE] But logic doesn't always apply unfortunately [editline]2nd January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;34008347]Then why believe it?[/QUOTE] Why believe in angels or demons or aliens? Because people find meaning in it, that's why.

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;34008477]You did not really answer my question. The two are not mutually exclusive. Few agree on how the big bang started, and yet there is a general consensus that it happened. It seems a bit illogical to believe in something when there is no solid evidence as to why it happened. It seems almost unscientific... no? Now, based upon decades of research, it is pretty clear that the big bang happened. But how can you flat out deny one explanation for its occurrence and not deny all the others, which have not been proven and contradict each dramatically?[/QUOTE] Well I can at least rule out the Abrahamic religions, as their texts state that God created the universe in a literally impossible amount of time. And don't give the 'physics don't apply to god' argument, because that already makes the assumption that god must already exist for physics not to apply to him. Either it's believed to be true by Christians, in which case they're objectively wrong, or it's believed to be a whimsical tale about the creation of the Earth that isn't literal, in which case why take the book as anything more than any other mythological story? In this sense, I suppose I cannot [I]absolutely rule out[/I] the idea of 'a god' creating the universe and causing the Big Bang, but then again I never did. I simply said that there is more logic behind the idea that the Big Bang occurred on its own and created the universe rather than an all-powerful being giving it a push. If sometime there is concrete evidence that a deity did it, then I will believe what the evidence supports, but right now that's not the case.

Why don't we all just agree to convert to [URL="http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/"]The One True Faith?[/URL] :v:

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34008595]Well I can at least rule out the Abrahamic religions, as their texts state that God created the universe in a literally impossible amount of time. And don't give the 'physics don't apply to god' argument, because that already makes the assumption that god must already exist for physics not to apply to him. Either it's believed to be true by Christians, in which case they're objectively wrong, or it's believed to be a whimsical tale about the creation of the Earth that isn't literal, in which case why take the book as anything more than any other mythological story? [/QUOTE] Actually I look at the fact that according to the bible, god created the earth in a literally impossibly [i]long[/i] amount of time. God took 6 days, the big bang was instantaneous. Wouldn't an almighty god be able to create the universe just as fast as the big bang?

So I'm not normally one to get mad at these things, but WHAT THE HELL? That verse change does not fit with the song at all.

[QUOTE=minilandstan;34003196] Vietnam: North trying to take out the south World War 2: [b]Nazis[/b] try to invade other places, attacking Jews World War 1: [b]Same as above[/b], less Jew hate though Cold war: Political Shitstorm Middle East war (war on terrorism): Rebel forces want our shit outta their country. That's all i'm going to say about it.[/QUOTE] You shouldn't be allowed to comment about history.

[QUOTE=Morbo!!!;34009075]You shouldn't be allowed to comment about history.[/QUOTE] We should make him read a history book or at the very least watch some of the Military Channel (before I would've said the History Channel but you know how they are now :v:)

I never thought that was a particularly good song anyway. The piano line is nice but the lyrics are kinda nonmusical. "You may think that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. We hope someday you'll join us, and the world will be as one."

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;34003346]"Yo I meant no disrespect by changing the lyric guys! I was trying to say a world were u could believe what u wanted that's all." he didn't LITERALLY mean that all religion is true. he is imagining a world where everybody can believe in what they want. jeez[/QUOTE] It really does change the meaning of the song however because Lennon was idealizing a world where beliefs are not held, but constantly shared and ever changing. Religion is the opposite of that - it's sticking to your held beliefs against any evidence you find to the contrary.

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;34009465]It really does change the meaning of the song however because Lennon was idealizing a world where beliefs are not held, but constantly shared and ever changing. Religion is the opposite of that - it's sticking to your held beliefs against any evidence you find to the contrary.[/QUOTE] Then why are there religious scholars and philosophers who constantly share their different ideas on what god and the gospels mean? Religion isn't inherently close minded.

[QUOTE=Sickle;34007992]He was Roman Catholic you ignoramus.[/QUOTE] You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? He used religion as a tool. Hhe talked in his speeches about God and all that... And then he went in Private and criticized religion. It's thought that he pretended to be religious to control his people, but was really atheist.

Cee Lo not only makes shitty music but apparently is an idiot too.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;34009478]Then why are there religious scholars and philosophers who constantly share their different ideas on what god and the gospels mean? Religion isn't inherently close minded.[/QUOTE] Scholars and philosophers within your religion may be, but there is rarely an inter-religion exchange of such ideas. Religions don't allow for the existence of other gods and often compare those who worship other deities to filth and promise their damnation. This is hardly the basis for peaceful interaction. I'm not arguing whether or not religion is peaceful - I'm saying it was wrong to change the lyrics because it drastically skewed the original intent of the song.

As an atheist myself I respect his decision but I have to disagree on the fact that all religion is true and instead I think none of them are. Wouldn't saying "all religion is true" offend every religion too since each one thinks they are the true ones?

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;34009561]Scholars and philosophers within your religion may be, but there is rarely an inter-religion exchange of such ideas. Religions don't allow for the existence of other gods and often compare those who worship other deities to filth and promise their damnation. This is hardly the basis for peaceful interaction. I'm not arguing whether or not religion is peaceful - I'm saying it was wrong to change the lyrics because it drastically changed the original intent of the song.[/QUOTE] There is dialogue between the Christian and Jewish faiths. More and more as people become accepting of different faiths, it allows for inter-religious exchange. Remember that the Jewish, Christian, and Muslim god all share identical roots, it isn't out of the question to discuss that idea of god with other Abrahamic followers, since they are perceived to be the same god. Not only this, but Buddhist ideas begin to spread into Christianity as well. People begin to become more open and tolerating with their beliefs, and see that when an idea is good and "moral", it doesn't matter whether it comes from a "heathen" or not. It is hard to see, because we have been living for most of history in a closed society where there is only one philosophy to follow and all others are damnable, but if you look you will find that inter-religious discussion already happens and is beginning to flourish. This is something John Lennon would be proud of, and I would say is the point of his song.

[QUOTE=The Baconator;34004761]Funny how it was changed only because it showed favortism to atheism. Yet all the songs that mention God are ok, even if it's obvious it's referring to the Judeo Christian god.[/QUOTE] holy shit did you actually read the article? that's not why it was changed do everyone a favor and just [b]stop posting[/b]. everything you post is terrible [editline]2nd January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=InsanePyro;34007938]What a stupid fuck You just don't fuck with John Lennon[/QUOTE] He's not "fucking" with John Lennon he changed a song lyric, deal with it.

[h2]Fuck Off.[/h2] Play a different song if you're that worried. Don't disgrace a great artist's work. What if we chip the dick off the statue of David because it's not circumcised in the special religion's way?

[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34009596]As an atheist myself I respect his decision but I have to disagree on the fact that all religion is true and instead I think none of them are. Wouldn't saying "all religion is true" offend every religion too since each one thinks they are the true ones?[/QUOTE] ugh people who read lyrics literally

[QUOTE=Lazor;34009682]ugh people who read lyrics literally[/QUOTE]ugh people who never finish their point and instead you have to ask them to finish it.

[QUOTE=Drsalvador;34009673][h2]Fuck Off.[/h2] Play a different song if you're that worried. Don't disgrace a great artist's work. What if we chip the dick off the statue of David because it's not circumcised in the special muslim way?[/QUOTE] what the fuck covering a song is in no way analogous to chipping off a piece of the statue of david. news flash: the original Imagine is still alive and well. what Cee Lo Green did didn't alter it in any way

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;34004496]you're assuming he left his habits behind due to fear. when i embraced christianity i didn't do it for any fear of any deities retribution (i don't believe in the after life) i did it because i felt the message of jesus christ represented a better way to live than the way i was living.[/QUOTE] I was under the assumption that belief in the afterlife was a pretty damn necessary part of Christianity. Now, of course some parts of the bible, mostly if not only NT, I can agree with, and so can most people, but a lot of these moral guidelines goes without saying. We don't really the bible to tell us what is right and what is wrong.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;34008710]Actually I look at the fact that according to the bible, god created the earth in a literally impossibly [i]long[/i] amount of time. God took 6 days, the big bang was instantaneous. Wouldn't an almighty god be able to create the universe just as fast as the big bang?[/QUOTE] i think you might be oversimplifying the big bang a bit bruh

Big bang didn't create the world instantly, it took billions of years of forming and then just as long for creatures to evolve. That is not instant at all. Sure it exploded and there were rocks all over the place but that is not a livable condition for anything.

[QUOTE=minilandstan;34003196]You're also ignoring the fact that the past couple of wars weren't even based on religion. Vietnam: North trying to take out the south World War 2: Nazis try to invade other places, attacking Jews World War 1: Same as above, less Jew hate though Cold war: Political Shitstorm Middle East war (war on terrorism): Rebel forces want our shit outta their country. That's all i'm going to say about it.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa[/url] Excuse me? George Bush said that god told him to invade Iraq.

Yes, this does butcher the original song's intention. That being said, Lennon's song "God" is better.

[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;34010417][url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa[/url] Excuse me? George Bush said that god told him to invade Iraq.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't be surprised if god did, he enjoys death and murder after all.