ISIS is going to capture India and start World War III - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Neat!;48329976]i'm friends with a former aussie army officer who took part in some joint training exercise with india in the late 00's. his assessment was that their military is a kafka-esque nightmare of bureaucracy and incompetence, and most everything i've read on their military prowess in modern times backs that up. they have numbers, i'll give them that. but their service rifle debacle alone is rendering their infantry highly inefficient. how are they rectifying this? they're praying that the people behind this abomination can fix their military: [t]http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb314/cottagecheese_album/INSAS/DSC05559.jpg[/t] i could go on, but you can google it yourself. the indian army is big. that's it.[/QUOTE] The INSAS is the worst rifle ever, but their airborne forces have already ditched it for Tavors and they're evaluating the CZ-805 as a general replacement.

[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;48330429]No way I am getting hyped this time. They always promise, but never deliver. I can't trust warmonging states anymore, too many times they let me down. I will say it again, World War 3 is not gonna happen, it will never live up to the hype people expect from it.[/QUOTE] Haha, this post makes ww3 seem like a crowd funded video game. "I preordered ww2 but the Nazis didn't even put ground troops in America. It was one of their stretch goals ffs! 0/10"

This is the Daily Star, the paper renowned for writing stories such as this: [img]https://d8kyhhndkm363.cloudfront.net/8/87116/daily_star.JPG[/img]

[QUOTE=Ltp0wer;48331510]Haha, this post makes ww3 seem like a crowd funded video game. "I preordered ww2 but the Nazis didn't even put ground troops in America. It was one of their stretch goals ffs! 0/10"[/QUOTE] ww3 = HL3 We'll believe it when we see it.

[QUOTE=DiBBs27;48331568]ww3 = HL3 We'll believe it when we see it.[/QUOTE] And both will probably set the world on fire. [U]Probably.[/U]

[QUOTE=scurr;48331534]This is the Daily Star, the paper renowned for writing stories such as this: [img]https://d8kyhhndkm363.cloudfront.net/8/87116/daily_star.JPG[/img][/QUOTE] I took this picture the other day: [img]http://i.imgur.com/PV80bof.jpg[/img] They're the definition of sensationalism.

Fairly certain that would involve a takeover of Afghanistan which would be difficult considering there's this place called Iran in the middle, then they'd have to take Pakistan then they could go after India.

ISIS is sounding like North Korea now.

[QUOTE=TestECull;48331228]In all technicality that would still be a world war.[/QUOTE] 1 against the world? It would be stacked but I wouldn't mind.

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48331631]ISIS is sounding like North Korea now.[/QUOTE] They only difference is they don't keep any of the foul shit they do secret.

[QUOTE=pentium;48329889]ISIS can only start a world war if they nuked someone. I'm pretty sure glassing over Israel would cause a massive power vacuum.[/QUOTE] Yeah Israel and every single middle-eastern country (and probably a few extra for good measure) being a smooth plane of glass could be called a power vacuum

[QUOTE=Saphirx;48330079]Looking at the active paramilitaries, the US has so few comparably. Albeit far better equipped, and trained I assume.[/QUOTE] Better equipped, yes. Better trained, maybe. Training isn't everything though. You can get the best training in the world for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week for 6 months straight, and still suck at what you're doing. A soldier needs discipline and motivation to make the training stick, and a lot of the soldiers graduating from initial entry training nowadays just don't seem to have it. They don't give a shit, they just signed up for the free college, and to get away from mom and dad. A part of the problem, I feel, is that when you're in TRADOC, they treat you like a total baby. They can't let you out of your sight, and god forbid they smoke you for more than 10-20 reps per exercise. I'm not even joking, they couldn't make us do more than 10 push-ups at a time in Basic. How the hell are they supposed to make us disciplined and tough with rules like that? It's weakening the Army, and I dread the results when we take this new generation of soft, babied soldiers and drop them in the middle of a combat zone. It's not going to look pretty.

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;48331686]Yeah Israel and every single middle-eastern country (and probably a few extra for good measure) being a smooth plane of glass could be called a power vacuum[/QUOTE] Could you imagine the implications of this. It's not even like a "glassing" of those nations would kill everyone off either. You'd have remnants of every nation migrating to the surrounding regions, not only soaking up the aid resources from nato and the surrounding countries but also bringing their wars and conflicts. It would simply widen area of impact of their religious and social conflicts, most likely with added vengeance due to the bombs.

To do that, however, they'd probably have to set up a base in Pakistan, probably in the northern regions where the Taliban are diddling about. And they hate each other.

you are talking like ISIS has already captured india,calm down ppl,if terrorist touch a inch of india, the united states and the UK will defend india. If they even try to touch india,i think they will destroy themselve. Because yes, al quaida,taliban and ISIS merge mean they will be easier to destroy,they will unite together under a new banner for india,they will stupidly send like,most of their guy (because we dont send a platoon on a country,right?),and then,they will lose because of the powerful equipment and soldier of india. i guess they are gonna do suicide attack,first..

[QUOTE=ApertureXS200;48331777]you are talking like ISIS has already captured india,calm down ppl,if terrorist touch a inch of india, the united states and the UK will defend india. If they even try to touch india,i think they will destroy themselve. Because yes, al quaida,taliban and ISIS merge mean they will be easier to destroy,they will unite together under a new banner for india,they will stupidly send like,most of their guy (because we dont send a platoon on a country,right?),and then,they will lose because of the powerful equipment and soldier of india. i guess they are gonna do suicide attack,first..[/QUOTE] Wouldnt exactly say that India is powerful in terms of equipment as such, but all of this is just posturing and claims as things stand right now. And sending most of their people would be against their modus operandi, they'll still stick to small terror cells and suicide attacks.

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;48331787]Wouldnt exactly say that India is powerful in terms of equipment as such, but all of this is just posturing and claims as things stand right now. And sending most of their people would be against their modus operandi, they'll still stick to small terror cells and suicide attacks.[/QUOTE] Most of the world still likes India so they would be very well defended by lots of countries.

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48331793]Most of the world still likes India so they would be very well defended by lots of countries.[/QUOTE] If major strikes and the like started happening perhaps, and on a regular basis in such a way that the local military and paramilitary forces can't prevent it, but I can tell you for a fact that unless it deteriorated to that level, we wouldn't get much of aid. Though I dare say it wouldn't be a bad idea if India did some more defense deals with the USA, the armed forces are in a bad way for supplies at present, a study a couple months ago said that the army has enough ammo and artillery stockpiled to fight a prolonged war for one month, and no more

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;48331835]If major strikes and the like started happening perhaps, and on a regular basis in such a way that the local military and paramilitary forces can't prevent it, but I can tell you for a fact that unless it deteriorated to that level, we wouldn't get much of aid. Though I dare say it wouldn't be a bad idea if India did some more defense deals with the USA, the armed forces are in a bad way for supplies at present, a study a couple months ago said that the army has enough ammo and artillery stockpiled to fight a prolonged war for one month, and no more[/QUOTE] Is there much hatred and extremism between Hindus and Muslims in India that ISIS could tap into are have things changed a lot since 2002?

[QUOTE=Smooth Jazz;48331863]Is there much hatred and extremism between Hindus and Muslims in India that ISIS could tap into are have things changed a lot since 2002?[/QUOTE] The current situation has many shades of grey in it. In general, the average Hindu and average Muslim get along with each other just fine, regardless of creed, social status, or what have you. The political scenario is leaning heavily towards right wing Hindu extremism, as things currently stand, especially in attempts at revisionist history/marginalization of minorities. Communal tensions aren't as serious as they used to be several years ago (around the time of incidents like the Godhra riots) but the steam level seems to be steadily rising, there's a number of incidents of intolerance/assaults and even outright murders appearing in the news of late. It's a delicate balance, and can tip either way if somebody decides to set a match to the powder keg. All it'll take is one religiously motivated incident that's serious enough (desecration of the Qur'an or the Bhagavad Gita, for examples' sake) which might be enough to start a riot, if tensions aren't defused in time. IS and other terrorist organizations won't find India to be a recruiters' paradise, as far as tapping hatreds goes, but they will find enough disenchanted/disenfranchised youth of all communities who might even join for the chance to simply hit back at a society that they feel has failed them.

That's [I]cute[/I], ISIS. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Neat!;48330087]nothing to do with the populace. china funds good designs and concepts, and NK uses what the have quite well (the quality of manufacture in their planes, arms, and other mechanized units are supposedly very good). two million personnel, both active and in reserve, don't mean much when they operate 104 aircraft that are both obsolete and may or may not get off the runway. i already gave info on how up to date the rest of their materiel is. and though the indian constitution DOES have a provision for a draft/conscription in times of major conflict, it has never been implemented before and likely would be a logistical disaster, just like the rest of their military.[/QUOTE] So, ISIS happening to India might actually be a good thing... when it comes down to maintaining a military and hardware? Or do you know how well they care of such things? From what I've seen or heard, they mean business.. [editline]30th July 2015[/editline] Anyway, I didn't know India's military was that bad.

[QUOTE=Bat-shit;48333478]So, ISIS happening to India might actually be a good thing... when it comes down to maintaining a military and hardware? Or do you know how well they care of such things? From what I've seen or heard, they mean business.. [editline]30th July 2015[/editline] Anyway, I didn't know India's military was that bad.[/QUOTE] It isn't. The primary problem at the moment is their service rifle, but they're well-trained, generally well-organized, and have some scary tech backing them up. Don't believe everything you hear online.

[QUOTE=archangel125;48333529]It isn't. The primary problem at the moment is their service rifle, but they're well-trained, generally well-organized, and have some scary tech backing them up. [I]Don't believe everything you hear online.[/I][/QUOTE] I don't, obviously. Though I wonder, how can a service rifle even be a problem in the age of long range bombs and missiles? I mean surely you need them, right, but how can you not have a some-what reliable rifle by the time you got nuclear warheads slowly building up?

[QUOTE=Bat-shit;48333574]I don't, obviously. Though I wonder, how can a service rifle even be a problem in the age of long range bombs and missiles? I mean surely you need them, right, but how can you not have a some-what reliable rifle by the time you got nuclear warheads slowly building up?[/QUOTE] I think Zone or someone said earlier that they're making a switch to the Israeli standard right now, at least in their special units. Eventually, I'm sure the rest of the army will follow. But considering the size of India's military, it'll be very expensive to outfit them, which is why the change takes time.

[QUOTE=Bat-shit;48333574]I don't, obviously. Though I wonder, how can a service rifle even be a problem in the age of long range bombs and missiles? I mean surely you need them, right, but how can you not have a some-what reliable rifle by the time you got nuclear warheads slowly building up?[/QUOTE] Because if you could somehow not hit civilians with all those bombs and just the bad guys we wouldn't need rifles...Unfortunately ISIS will dress up as civilians and use them as cover to launch attacks.

[QUOTE=Neat!;48329900]have you seen their army? shit, even if they trained well or had any sort of logical standard set (beards are a-ok, because who needs a proper seal on your gas mask?) their service rifle is possibly the worst firearm ever even considered for military service, let alone adopted in full. their air force can't afford to maintain their planes, last month they lost their third SEPECAT jaguar this year due to "catastrophic in-flight malfunction". they can't even keep their MIGs in working order. don't even get me started on how their mechanized units are so unfit for their very unlucky city and geographical layouts that they would be sitting ducks for IS goons with RPG-7s.[/QUOTE] You are full of shit, dude. IS doesn't stand a chance in India. You're forgetting the people - The same people who riot in the streets, flip city buses and torch them if their secular, democratic government puts a toe out of line. You'll find, also, that their military is very adept at repelling scum like IS filtering in from Pakistan - They've been doing it for decades. If you think IS has a real chance to gain a foothold in a country like India, you're a deluded fool. Pakistan? Absolutely. Pakistan's a failed state anyway. India's military is currently ill-equipped for conventional warfare against a major military superpower, but they've got more fighting experience than any military in the world dealing with insurgents - And they show them no mercy.

I think it's genuinely hilarious that people are putting [I]any weight at all[/I] on a Daily Star headline