[quote]Clark admitted he was interested in the images but he said it was for their artistic merit and as "a bit of a laugh". He did not find them sexually arousing, he said.[/quote]
suuure
[QUOTE=Furnost;40379558]suuure[/QUOTE]
I feel bad for the guy, but I do call bullshit on that. Nobody would keep it on for 3 years.
[quote]However, while the cartoon characters were elves and pixies, they were also clearly young elves and pixies[/quote]
For some reason I find this quote hilarious.
[QUOTE=Reds;40379131]"anime cartoons"
Don't they both mean the same damn thing in Japan? The word is only used to distinguish between Japanese animation and western animation, right?[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si7ooqp_IT0[/media]
On one hand, the guy has a prior conviction for "indecently assaulting a teenage boy", but this ruling is still stupid. It's like the reasoning of banning gay marriage because it will lead to marriage with dogs. It's admitting that the thing they're outlawing isn't actually wrong, but they're only outlawing it because they don't want something else to be legal. Well, if you don't want that other thing to be legal, just keep that outlawed while legalizing things that don't cause any harm.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;40379540]the guy was on probation for having raped a kid.[/QUOTE]
indecently assaulting a teenage boy != rape.
[QUOTE=Furnost;40379558]suuure[/QUOTE]
Wait, fucking seriously? When I read the article I thought that was about some police reviewer or something saying "well, this is different, haha", but looking back, it was the guy that was arrested saying that?
Seriously? Dude, you got caught with pixie porn. Own up to it. No one's going to buy that you had pornographic images "for artistic merit."
[QUOTE=Durrsly;40379097]They are seriously going to flip shit when they find furry porn.[/QUOTE]
hahah holy shit imagine what happens when they find gore or mlp porn
[editline]22nd April 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Durrsly;40379446]Thread music?:
[video=youtube;UlQRyuKSsFc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlQRyuKSsFc[/video]
[sp]GEDDIT!? CP!? Shut up, it was funnier in my head.[/sp][/QUOTE]
funfact i've actually been petrified of saying CP in reference to civil protection out loud since 2004 because i lived with a policeman for a while and i am worried he might suddenly return and hear "cp" drift on the wind and then he'll beat the shit out of me.
[QUOTE=Roger Waters;40379641]hahah holy shit imagine what happens when they find gore or mlp porn[/QUOTE]
They would probably need therapy if they ever stumbled upon /d/.
Animated child porn is still child porn. I dont see any reason to change the law just so pedophiles can have legal jerk off material.
[QUOTE=H8Entitlement;40379821]Animated child porn is still child porn. I dont see any reason to change the law just so pedophiles can have legal jerk off material.[/QUOTE]
Maybe because the alternative to drawn CP is actual CP?
[QUOTE=Aidan_088;40379001]...elves, pixies and other [b]fantasy creatures[/b]...[/QUOTE]
This is what makes it even more stupid, fantasy creatures. Things that aren't even goddamn real, drawn or not.
[quote]Clark has previous convictions for indecently assaulting a teenage boy and has been through rehabilitation programmes[/quote]
something that should be clear in the OP, but isn't for some reason
[QUOTE=H8Entitlement;40379821]Animated child porn is still child porn. I dont see any reason to change the law just so pedophiles can have legal jerk off material.[/QUOTE]
And murdering a fictional character in a video game is still murder. Lets make violent video games illegal.
See this is the problem with making a fictional media illegal based on ethics. Where exactly would it stop?
id say this is preferable to him assaulting more teenage boys
watching the porn that is, i dont support the charge
[QUOTE=Turnips5;40379920]something that should be clear in the OP, but isn't for some reason[/QUOTE]
why
how is it relevant to the logic of the court ruling
Lets start arresting everyone who might become criminals! That way we wont have any lawbreakers in our nation. Lets start with car-owners, so they dont start running people over, knife-owners, so they dont stab someone, pc-users, so noone can pirate or hack someone, and hand-users, so they never strange anyone
[QUOTE=Durrsly;40379446]Thread music?:
[video=youtube;UlQRyuKSsFc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlQRyuKSsFc[/video]
[sp]GEDDIT!? CP!? Shut up, it was funnier in my head.[/sp][/QUOTE]
wow u are funy xD
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;40379954]why
how is it relevant to the logic of the court ruling[/QUOTE]
just look at the state of the thread
[QUOTE=fantafuzz;40379957]Lets start arresting everyone who might become criminals![/QUOTE]
[editline]22nd April 2013[/editline]
man jailed for watching cartoon pornography [sub]and previously having molested a kid[/sub]
[QUOTE=Reds;40379202]Because old white people who have no idea what they're doing.[/QUOTE]
Truth; beware the conservative and the cultist, for they age very poorly and don't understand shit about the modern era. Take action against them if their actions threaten to cause us to backslide or set our culture back a generation.
To hell with the overly-sensitive; this harsh grim dark universe has no given quarters for such antiquated weaklings.
Then again, I guess the instinctive reaction was based on his previous child sex allegations, but still the presumption of those materials automatically being CP is just stupid.
The way I imagine these things is, what if it was *the prior cultural medium of choice*? If a guy just had some books about trolls and pixies fucking, sure you'd find him weird, but you wouldn't see any reason to arrest him. I'd much rather people wrote about or drew cp than actually tried to create it in real life.
[QUOTE=fantafuzz;40379957]Lets start arresting everyone who might become criminals! That way we wont have any lawbreakers in our nation. Lets start with car-owners, so they dont start running people over, knife-owners, so they dont stab someone, pc-users, so noone can pirate or hack someone, and hand-users, so they never strange anyone[/QUOTE]
Strawman logic best logic?
Fantasy child porn being illegal has nothing to do with child molestation/rape. To try to justify the former by saying it prevents the latter is unproven at best.
tl/dr, child rape/molestation, child porn, and fantasy child porn are all illegal in of themselves. None have anything to do with the other two. To try to link them is like saying we should keep guns legal because otherwise people will just use knifes.
Or are we just going to pull a 'But they should never do this thing that may just stop them from snapping and raping a child because there's an extremely slim chance, slimmer than the chance they'll go insane from repression, that they'll be motivated by appeasing fiction to go and make that reality'?
[editline]22nd April 2013[/editline]
Automerge.
Arrest people having sex because they are almost rapists
[QUOTE=H8Entitlement;40380189]
Fantasy child porn being illegal has nothing to do with child molestation/rape. To try to justify the former by saying it prevents the latter is unproven at best.[/QUOTE]
so why does it need to be illegal then? fantasy child porn is exactly that; fantasy, no-one is hurt by it, unlike real child porn
this is quite stupidly law in quite a few countries including the UK
[editline]22nd April 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=H8Entitlement;40380189]Strawman logic best logic?
Fantasy child porn being illegal has nothing to do with child molestation/rape. To try to justify the former by saying it prevents the latter is unproven at best.
tl/dr, child rape/molestation, child porn, and fantasy child porn are all illegal in of themselves. None have anything to do with the other two. To try to link them is like saying we should keep guns legal because otherwise people will just use knifes.[/QUOTE]
your argument makes this much sense
Won't SOMEBODY think of the 108-year-old loli succubuses from the monstergirl dimension?!
I mean if fiction had that much of an effect on real life, we might as well ban action movies. Or horror flicks. Or tragic love stories.
Child porn is illegal because children are getting exploited and harmed in its production. This isn't the case with any form of drawn porn, therefor there are no grounds to declare it as illegal.
Main reason I'm even bothering to argue this is because judging fantasy media by real-life standards is a damn slippery slope. We can't ban media just on the basis that someone out there finds it offensive.
[QUOTE=Turnips5;40380038]
man jailed for watching cartoon pornography [sub]and previously having molested a kid[/sub][/QUOTE]
Still watching [U][I][B]cartoon[/B][/I][/U] pornography shouldnt get you in trouble. Even if are a notorious child molester or whatever.
[QUOTE=Durrsly;40379097]They are seriously going to flip shit when they find furry porn.[/QUOTE]
How about they stop fucking around with these petty child pornography cases that involve drawn characters and focus on the pedophiles who fly to thailand every year to rape little children huh?
They're not getting shit done.
[quote]Anti-child pornography group ECPAT Child Alert director Alan Bell said the images were illegal because they encouraged people "to migrate from there to the real thing".[/quote]
Haha, what the fuck?
I can totally see how this would happen. "Oh hey this cartoon child pornography that I stumbled into looks HOT."
"Oh no, this cartoon child pornography isn't satisfying my new-found [I]LUST FOR CHILDREN[/I], the only logical step now is to aquire real child pornography which I never liked until I saw this cartoon pornography"
Elves and Pixies are not fucking children.
Pun not intended.
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