The US is censoring the internet by removing the domain names from the internet. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;26312744]You are naive for assuming that the USA's intentions with using this power are restricted to just censoring websites that contravene filesharing laws. Believe it or not, there are a lot of websites that the USA government doesn't want people to access, for political reasons. This is true of all governments, but the difference between them and the USA government is that the USA government has the power to shut down websites which are hosted overseas. I don't think you grasp the enormity and immorality of that power. Imagine if the government of China could switch off American websites by just pushing a button.[/quote] If you read the article (even though it's still ridiculously biased), you would know that the government can only use the law to shut down pirate sites. If you knew anything about the law you would know that. [quote]refute your argument[/quote] You sure got me. [quote][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO]Yeah[/url] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_Act]that's[/url] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act]literally[/url] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/638_Ways_to_Kill_Castro]unheard[/url] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act]of.[/url][/quote] Yes thank you for agreeing with me cool blue text you got there. [quote]facepunch is not a blip on the us government's radar and garry it not on some cia kill list[/QUOTE] YES IT IS THEY ARE WATCHING US ALL.

[QUOTE=Explosions;26312841]If you read the article (even though it's still ridiculously biased), you would know that the government can only use the law to shut down pirate sites. If you knew anything about the law you would know that.[/QUOTE]Does the law allow ignoring due process? Because if it does it's completely unconstitutional.

[QUOTE=Best4bond;26308598]America thinks they own the world again.[/QUOTE] Sadly, this is true.

Is a .co.uk domain outside their jurisdiction or does the US own the Internet?

[QUOTE=smidge146;26313375]Is a .co.uk domain outside their jurisdiction or does the US own the Internet?[/QUOTE] they can't touch .co.uk

[QUOTE=GunsNRoses;26309177]Next stop, Wikileaks![/QUOTE] As someone said last night in the Wikileaks being down thread they would have done it months ago, they have had the power for many many years. [QUOTE=Johnbooth;26310505]But ICANN is a private sector corporation. They don't work on the governments behalf.[/QUOTE] But they have to abide by US laws, the US government can and has blocked companies from doing business with certain undesirable people and companies. It's meant to stop companies in the US from accidentally funding terrorism, but it can really be used for anything.

[QUOTE=CheeseMan;26308152][img_thumb]http://www.torrent-finder.com/IPRC_Seized_2010_11.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] I don't live in the fucking US. I don't want their shitty government on my websites. I need my linux distros.

[QUOTE=Explosions;26312841]If you read the article (even though it's still ridiculously biased), you would know that the government can only use the law to shut down pirate sites. If you knew anything about the law you would know that.[/quote] see polopozozo's comment if they're going to do it without due process then they'll have no qualms about doing it for less than ethical reasons there's no fucking jury at work here [quote]You sure got me.[/quote] yeah did you see me I was all like WOOAHHH [quote]Yes thank you for agreeing with me cool blue text you got there.[/quote] remind me how exactly those links support your points? [quote]YES IT IS THEY ARE WATCHING US ALL.[/QUOTE] nice job contradicting yourself even if you're being sarcastic it's not funny

We need an "Oh Shit!" rating that's specific to the news section.

[QUOTE=smidge146;26313375]Is a .co.uk domain outside their jurisdiction or does the US own the Internet?[/QUOTE] Contray to the popular belief by some people in the US, they do not control the internet. Nor can they shut it down. I assume this is the reason that many sites which are questionable (Piratebay, Wikileaks etc) have many domains, including lots of non US based.

[QUOTE=Explosions;26312453]So that PROVES that the government took the site down? [editline]26th November 2010[/editline] There can be no other explanation?[/QUOTE] No, but it''s a hell of a coincidence.

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;26313023]Does the law allow ignoring due process? Because if it does it's completely unconstitutional.[/QUOTE] I never said it wasn't. All I tried to say was that the government isn't going to randomly shut down websites they don't like.

Again?

World is ruined. Abandon Planet!

At first I was going to rage, but then I noticed the longer list of domain names seized: [quote]2009jerseys.com 51607.com amoyhy.com b2corder.com bishoe.com borntrade.com borntrade.net boxedtvseries.com boxset4less.com boxsetseries.com burberryoutletshop.com cartoon77.com cheapscarfshop.com coachoutletfactory.com dajaz1.com discountscarvesonsale.com dvdcollectionsale.com dvdcollects.com dvdorderonline.com dvdprostore.com dvdscollection.com dvdsetcollection.com dvdsetsonline.com dvdsuperdeal.com eluxury-outlet.com getdvdset.com gofactoryoutlet.com golfstaring.com golfwholesale18.com handbag9.com handbagcom.com handbagspop.com icqshoes.com ipodnanouk.com jersey-china.com jerseyclubhouse.com jordansbox.com lifetimereplicas.com louis-vuitton-outlet-store.com lv-outlets.com lv-outlets.net lv-outletstore.com massnike.com merrytimberland.com mycollects.com mydreamwatches.com mygolfwholesale.com newstylerolex.com nfljerseysupply.com nibdvd.com odvdo.com oebags.com onsmash.com overbestmall.com rapgodfathers.com realtimberland.com rmx4u.com scarfonlineshop.com scarfviponsale.com shawls-store.com silkscarf-shop.com silkscarfonsale.com skyergolf.com sohob2b.com sohob2c.com storeofeast.com stuff-trade.com sunglasses-mall.com sunogolf.com tbl-sports.com throwbackguy.com tiesonsale.com timberlandlike.com topabuy.com torrent-finder.com usaburberryscarf.com usaoutlets.net[/quote] It looks like the government is finally doing something to deal with physical piracy over the Internet. As far as I can tell, these sites were actually selling counterfit goods over the Internet, and the sites in question were either torrent sites, or simply sites erroneously seized. I [i]highly[/i] doubt the feds will start taking over random domain names... [quote]see polopozozo's comment if they're going to do it without due process then they'll have no qualms about doing it for less than ethical reasons there's no fucking jury at work here [/quote] Except the fucking jury of public opinion and support. I'm pretty sure a LOT of people would be up in arms if the government were to seize WikiLeak's domain name using the same procedures that were used here. Imagine what the far right-wingers and Tea Party supporters would say? "YUP, MORE EVIDENCE THE GOVERNMENT IS TOO BIG." There'd be protests and shit.

god bless america [editline]26th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;26312317] [editline]26th November 2010[/editline] [url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1031016-Wikileaks-down]explain this then[/url][/QUOTE] in case you didn't know, sites go down for maintenance sometimes

What the fuck, the US is blocking websites not from the US, I'm from the UK and the site is blocked for me. This has GOT to be illegal, the US should have no hand in the internet outside of itself.

[QUOTE=Explosions;26313535]I never said it wasn't. All I tried to say was that the government isn't going to randomly shut down websites they don't like.[/QUOTE] It wouldn't be random, but giving them the tools to do so isn't the best option.

[QUOTE=BrainDeath;26314253]What the fuck, the US is blocking websites not from the US, I'm from the UK and the site is blocked for me. This has GOT to be illegal, the US should have no hand in the internet outside of itself.[/QUOTE] Not if its a U.S. website.

fuck da police

If I'm reading this right, they're only removing the domain name right? So technically we'll still be able to connect by IP.

[QUOTE=Explosions;26314316]Not if its a U.S. website.[/QUOTE] But they're blocking non-us sites too.

Its just one torrent-search website. The rest are for counterfeit goods.

[QUOTE=bobste;26314115]god bless america [editline]26th November 2010[/editline] in case you didn't know, sites go down for maintenance sometimes[/QUOTE] of course that cannot be ruled out as a possibility but it happened just after they announced they were about to release some serious shit

[QUOTE=BrainDeath;26314476]But they're blocking non-us sites too.[/QUOTE] The domain is managed by a US company (ICANN or VeriSign, one of these companies actually manage the root .com etc domain the other is sort of responsible) which means it can be seized. I would bet that if you knew the IP of the sites it would still be up.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;26314542]of course that cannot be ruled out as a possibility but it happened just after they announced they were about to release some serious shit[/QUOTE] Obama could also be a fuzzy mole man in a human suit and he is under the control of a mole man super species. That cannot be ruled out as a possibility.

[QUOTE=Jsm;26314578]The domain is managed by a US company (ICANN or VeriSign, one of these companies actually manage the root .com etc domain the other is sort of responsible) which means it can be seized. I would bet that if you knew the IP of the sites it would still be up.[/QUOTE] Exactly, they hold the TLD (Top Level Domain, like .com, net, edu, co.** etc) and the actual domain. However, DNS is only there to "simplify" going to websites, by using words. Its there to help us getting to sites. Better to type [url]www.facepunch.com[/url] than 174.129.7.255:80.

ICANN't believe this!

[QUOTE=Elstumpo;26308133]Well shit.[/QUOTE] Avatar and comment are in perfect unison.

this month gets worse and worse