• Trump refusing to participate in upcoming GOP debate
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[QUOTE=Squidman;49626712]Imagine thinking that not liking the republican's 2016 lineup of clowns makes you a hardcore liberal. I'm mostly just disappointed that they couldn't field anyone who even remotely appeals to the middle of the road people[/QUOTE] Because politics and why you support who you do is always white or black.
[QUOTE=Captain James;49625383]And the opposition are using children and getting them to slander and swear a politican because he said things that hurt other peoples feelings, what's your point? He's against illegal immigration regardless of race and Islam which isn't a race as I am too, I vehemently disagree and oppose Islam as the logical conclusion is not compatible with the western world so I lean towards him.[/quote] His entire campaign is fear-mongering on Muslims and Mexicans. He outright called Mexicans 'rapists' and his ban on Muslims entering the US is virtually impossible without judging immigrant's faith on their ethnicity, which is - guess what - racist. His plan for Mexican immigration is to "build a wall and make Mexico pay for it" - Well for starters, he can't "make" Mexico do shit. Secondly, simply "building a wall" (vast majority of the border actually has a wall) will not curb immigration any shape form or way and if Trump is as smart as people claims, he knows that plain and simple, therefore he's just using the race rhetoric to gain supporters for his fascist campaign. [QUOTE=Captain James;49625383]Well he evidently isn't, you're correct.[/quote] Except he's lying through his teeth half the time he speaks. If you put every campaign speech he made into Wikipedia, you would have countless "[Citation Needed]" marks after every single sentence. His "truth" is what bigots want to hear, not the reality of the state our country is in. [QUOTE=Captain James;49625383]The Nazi's killed millions, Trump is not going to kill millions. Obama did more than enough damage to the middle east first hand.[/quote] Guess what, the Nazis weren't elected on a campaign of 'we're going to kill millions'. They got elected on a campaign of 'we're going to get rid of X ethnicity out of our country'. Not to mention, they went and 'tracked X people throughout the country' for security's sake. I guess we'll be putting little yellow crescents on Muslims in the US if he gets to office? Secondly, Obama has had the best possible foreign policy regarding the middle east. Now this is coming from a guy who voted against Obama in both elections. I'm not an Obama fan. But the one thing I really DO love about the man is his foreign policy. He's eased tensions between the US and Iran, he's pulled us out of Iraq and Afghanistan and he's [I]not[/I] sending our men into Syria to die for someone else's cause. But guess who A) Hates Muslims and B) Wants to "cut the head off ISIS and take their oil" (whatever the fuck that's suppose to mean) - Oh yeah, Donald Trump. His anti-Muslim rhetoric will kill off relations with the entire Arab world, friend of ours or not. And he'll end up dragging us into the mess Syria is in to destroy a terrorist organization that believe it or not, actually has no ability whatsoever to threaten the integrity of the United States. As for the 'take their oil' thing - doesn't that oil belong to Iraq? Syria? Is President Trump going to re-invade Iraq and force them to give us economic concessions for oil? When gas prices have been at their lowest possible number in the past 16 years? Donald Trump is a lunatic and a fascist. Probably not a 'nazi' as there is a relative difference, but he's definitely a closet fascist and any supporter of him is at the least, equally a lunatic if not the latter also. [editline]28th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Captain James;49625767] Mass immigration is a placing a band aid over a festering wound, the problems in the middle east are a cancer that is metastasised and needs extremely aggressive chemotherapy, running from your own problems is leaving them to grow. It's now been shown that a very large percentage of these asylum seekers are economic migrants in disguise under the illusion of presenting themselves as such with no tangible threat to their lives.[/QUOTE] Oh man this is hilarious. You acknowledge that letting mass immigration into other nation's won't solve the problem at their home but you support Trump's plan to 'build a wall and make Mexico pay for it' as if it's the cure-all for immigration.
^That is some over dramatization if I ever saw it. This is what leftwingers on facepunch actually believe. [QUOTE=Captain James;49624461]I don't see the problem with Trump, when did Facepunch become comically leftist? It's like a parody whenever I see political threads, it's like Poe's law.[/QUOTE] Haven't you noticed the circle jerk over Bernie Sanders? Its been like that the last few years. There has been alot of D&C shilling for Sanders.
[QUOTE=SpotEnemyBoat;49627431]^That is some over dramatization if I ever saw it. This is what leftwingers on facepunch actually believe. Haven't you noticed the circle jerk over Bernie Sanders? Its been like that the last few years. There has been alot of D&C shilling for Sanders.[/QUOTE] Claims an over-dramatization, and then posts an over-dramatization. "Shill" lmao.
The fact you're calling Emperor Scorpious a leftwinger rather hilariously highlights what I said earlier. It's like a man caught in a riptide wondering why contienial drift has suddenly gotten much faster.
[QUOTE=Captain James;49624461]I don't see the problem with Trump, when did Facepunch become comically leftist? It's like a parody whenever I see political threads, it's like Poe's law.[/QUOTE] problem with trump is that his ideals fit really well into fascism. the only positive parts about this whole trump campaign is that hes not a political robot and he speaks his mind, which is why he's so popular. the problem is that what he says is complete insanity or would never work properly.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49627468]Claims an over-dramatization, and then posts an over-dramatization. "Shill" lmao.[/QUOTE] This highlights something since Redditors spend alot of time on the internet shilling for Sanders. They even go on 4chan and 8chan shilling for Bernie. Its true. [QUOTE=Mingebox;49627482]The fact you're calling Emperor Scorpious a leftwinger rather hilariously highlights what I said earlier. It's like a man caught in a riptide wondering why contienial drift has suddenly gotten much faster.[/QUOTE] A person that makes so many Trump threads is sure the definition of a centrist or libertarian. That is an unhealthy obsession!
[QUOTE=SpotEnemyBoat;49627548]This highlights something since Redditors spend alot of time on the internet shilling for Sanders. They even go on 4chan and 8chan shilling for Bernie. Its true.[/QUOTE] Look up what "shilling" actually means
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;49627557]Look up what "shilling" actually means[/QUOTE] Slight hyperbole, but not quite the overdramaziation as Emperor. The fact remains there is a group masturbation with Sanders discussion, there hasn't been a single oppositing view. According to the political compass, I'm a socialist. But its pretty hilarious seeing the SJW butthurt from Trump, he's quite the chess master of MSM. The hatred from progressives only make him stronger. Its like if Gamergate didn't worry about PR.
[QUOTE=SpotEnemyBoat;49627548] A person that makes so many Trump threads is sure the definition of a centrist or libertarian. That is an unhealthy obsession![/QUOTE] Or maybe not every moderate and libertarian isn't so easily misled by the shallowest of demagoguery and patriotic platitudes, maybe it's even worse when it's your own people so easily fooled by the simplest of tricks.
[QUOTE=SpotEnemyBoat;49627624]Slight hyperbole, but not quite the overdramaziation as Emperor. The fact remains there is a group masturbation with Sanders discussion, there hasn't been a single oppositing view. According to the political compass, I'm a socialist. But its pretty hilarious seeing the SJW butthurt from Trump, he's quite the chess master of MSM. The hatred from progressives only make him stronger. Its like if Gamergate didn't worry about PR.[/QUOTE] What does SJW even mean any more. It seems to have gone from Tumblr kids with made up genders to just meaning anyone who isn't far-right. You don't have to be progressive or even left of centre to find Trump's policies to be abhorrent; there are several well known right wing Facepunchers who are adamantly against him.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49618054]Not being Donald Trump is a pretty compelling reason to vote for somebody as far as I'm concerned. I'd write in cartoon characters before casting a vote for Trump.[/QUOTE] This is still my favorite political shirt of recent years: [img]http://i.imgur.com/f9oxOnC.png[/img] I feel like it truly represents my political party.
[QUOTE=CatFodder;49627689]What does SJW even mean any more. It seems to have gone from Tumblr kids with made up genders to just meaning anyone who isn't far-right. You don't have to be progressive or even left of centre to find Trump's policies to be abhorrent; there are several well known right wing Facepunchers who are adamantly against him.[/QUOTE] SJWs are people so set in their binary worldview that they'll defend even the most repugnant of individuals just as long as they support [I]their[/I] side and hate the things [I]they[/I] do. Wait...
[QUOTE=Mingebox;49627664]Or maybe not every moderate and libertarian isn't so easily misled by the shallowest of demagoguery and patriotic platitudes, maybe it's even worse when it's your own people so easily fooled by the simplest of tricks.[/QUOTE] Well this is what happens when someone like Ron Paul and Rand Paul (who is more center than most republicans), aren't chosen. Trumps popularity is because people are fed up of the status-quo. I can't remember anyone who has sucessfully manipulated the MSM to this extent, they report on what he wants without them even realizing it. [QUOTE=CatFodder;49627689]What does SJW even mean any more. It seems to have gone from Tumblr kids with made up genders to just meaning anyone who isn't far-right. You don't have to be progressive or even left of centre to find Trump's policies to be abhorrent; there are several well known right wing Facepunchers who are adamantly against him.[/QUOTE] Its not always the tumblr types, its the Gawker, Salon and the other cultural marxist types. It doesn't have to mean the far right/anyone that isn't a nationalist. Think of Sweden, its regarded as the personification of SJW ideas. In one youtube video it was called "if tumblr was a country" edit: fucking spellcheck
Oh come on, you claim to be a socialist but use terms like 'cultural marxist'? That's pure right-wing paranoia.
[QUOTE=CatFodder;49627743]Oh come on, you claim to be a socialist but use terms like 'cultural marxist'? That's pure right-wing paranoia.[/QUOTE] I said the political compass graded me as [URL="http://i.imgur.com/cUPbQrP.png"]socialist[/URL], which I'm sure is due to me feeling that big companies, banks should be not be trusted at all. I'm also a strong believer that religion shouldn't interfere in school or government at all. Likewise people like Anita Sarkeesian are [I]regressives, [/I]I wouldn't call her a Socialist. People on the left who believe everything is racist, misogynist, homophobic, etc.
I got called a leftwinger for a post that includes me saying I never voted for Obama. What an age we live in :v:
[QUOTE=Mingebox;49627708]SJWs are people so set in their binary worldview that they'll defend even the most repugnant of individuals just as long as they support [I]their[/I] side and hate the things [I]they[/I] do. Wait...[/QUOTE] This is a completely amazing realization to watch other people hit, no matter the topic or sides, the labels just change around a little.
[QUOTE=SpotEnemyBoat;49627783]I said the political compass graded me as [URL="http://i.imgur.com/cUPbQrP.png"]socialist[/URL], which I'm sure is due to me feeling that big companies, banks should be not be trusted at all. I'm also a strong believer that religion shouldn't interfere in school or government at all. Likewise people like Anita Sarkeesian are [I]regressives, [/I]I wouldn't call her a Socialist. People on the left who believe everything is racist, misogynist, homophobic, etc.[/QUOTE] Oh, so you don't trust the underhanded, amoral plutocrats in charge of large companies, but you [I]do[/I] trust underhanded, amoral and [I]politically incorrect[/I] plutocrats in charge of large companies?
[QUOTE=CatFodder;49627743]Oh come on, you claim to be a socialist but use terms like 'cultural marxist'? That's pure right-wing paranoia.[/QUOTE] Cultural Marxism isn't right-wing paranoia. It is something that has been coined by a number of academia for multiple decades now ([URL="http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sc1pi4"]List of examples)[/URL] Funnily enough, actual Cultural Marxists try to deny that Cultural Marxism is actually a thing. They just don't want people to know about their antics, hence why a self-admitted Cultural Marxist deleted the article on Cultural Marxism from Wikipedia. Apparently they cannot handle it when people find out the truth about them. Hence why they are so big on censoring anything that could be damaging to their agenda and narrative. [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2occ7m/wikipedias_cultural_marxism_article_now_redirects/"](Reddit thread discussing the removal of the Cultural Marxism article.)[/URL] Also, [URL="https://archive.is/YzkIS"]this is how the Wikipedia page about Cultural Marxism looked like before it got deleted.[/URL] The user who had the biggest hand in campaigning for its deletion, [URL="https://archive.is/Y3pba#selection-5793.0-5803.29"]citing multiple times that Cultural Marxism doesn't exist,[/URL] does turn out to be [URL="https://archive.is/0L5wt#selection-3597.0-3597.52"]a self-identifying Cultural Marxist.[/URL] Not too big of a surprise there.
[QUOTE=gk99;49627700]This is still my favorite political shirt of recent years: [img]http://i.imgur.com/f9oxOnC.png[/img] I feel like it truly represents my political party.[/QUOTE] Voting for Hilary would feel worse though.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;49627863]Oh, so you don't trust the underhanded, amoral plutocrats in charge of large companies, but you [I]do[/I] trust underhanded, amoral and [I]politically incorrect[/I] plutocrats in charge of large companies?[/QUOTE] No, I enjoy the fact that he's making a complete mockery of the establishment (those that have to answer to big expensive donors like Goldman Sachs, Koch Bros or George Soros) and the media into doing what he wants.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49627870]Voting for Hilary would feel worse though.[/QUOTE] Then don't vote for Hillary? It's not like these two are the only options right now. Are you [I]ever[/I] gonna make a post in SH that isn't white noise?
[QUOTE=SpotEnemyBoat;49627899]No, I enjoy the fact that he's making a complete mockery of the establishment (those that have to answer to big expensive donors like Goldman Sacs, Koch Bros or George Soros) and the media into doing what he wants.[/QUOTE] Haha, what is that even supposed to mean? Yeah, he really sure showed the establishment by promoting establishment values with such base tactics that even [I]the media and other politicians [/I] weren't cynical enough to think would actually work. I mean, look at those poor bastards thinking that appealing to people's sense of reason or empathy would win them over their side. Bastards as they are, even they didn't want to imagine they were leading a country that easy to manipulate.
[QUOTE=SpotEnemyBoat;49627783]I said the political compass graded me as [URL="http://i.imgur.com/cUPbQrP.png"]socialist[/URL], which I'm sure is due to me feeling that big companies, banks should be not be trusted at all. I'm also a strong believer that religion shouldn't interfere in school or government at all. Likewise people like Anita Sarkeesian are [I]regressives, [/I]I wouldn't call her a Socialist. People on the left who believe everything is racist, misogynist, homophobic, etc.[/QUOTE] I took the political compass test and was called a Social Libertarian. :v: Which sounds like the biggest oxymoron ever.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49628866]he [i]is[/i] the establishment he isn't shilling for corporations because he is the embodiment of corporations, his loyalties lie directly in line with his business enterprises[/QUOTE] if he is the establishment why does Fox News today stand to lose millions for him not attenting the debate? Why does the establisment put so much effort into bringing him down? Why did Obama dedicate his entire SOTU speech about Trump and putting down American voters for not donating? Trump may be very rich, but he isn't the establishment - that's factually incorrect.
[QUOTE=SpotEnemyBoat;49628993]if he is the establishment why does Fox News today stand to lose millions for him not attenting the debate? Why does the establisment put so much effort into bringing him down? Why did Obama dedicate his entire SOTU speech about Trump and putting down American voters for not donating? Trump may be very rich, but he isn't the establishment - that's factually incorrect.[/QUOTE] Because he represents such an exaggerated, ugly part of the establishment that it embarrasses even them. And then a horde of people larger than only most cynical ever suspected fall for history's most effortless cult of personality because they have zero capacity for critical thought.
Wow, that debate was pretty awful to watch. Without the comedic relief its just people turning all of the questions into their own stump to talk about stuff unrelated to the question.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;49629387]Because he represents such an exaggerated, ugly part of the establishment that it embarrasses even them. And then a horde of people larger than only most cynical ever suspected fall for history's most effortless cult of personality because they have zero capacity for critical thought.[/QUOTE] What is this establishment? The establishment that is Mitch McConnell, John McCain, Paul Ryan and the others that opposed Obama's free healthcare program? The same establishment that said Trump wasn't conservative because of his New York background? The truth is the actual establishment has gotten so desperate that they attack the niche /pol/ and the "Alt-Right" which has no power whatsoever. Whatever happens, its the end of the GOP.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49628866]he [I]is[/I] the establishment he isn't shilling for corporations because he is the embodiment of corporations, his loyalties lie directly in line with his business enterprises[/QUOTE] Interesting, because he's the only GOP nominee that's talked about raising capital gains tax rates, making it more expensive to manufacture overseas, etc. If anything, he's the most anti-corporate candidate.
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