New Razer Mouse requires internet connection to be used
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What...?
Why?
[QUOTE=mchapra;38368163]
Fuck it how about driving your car but you need to pay micro-transactions to make it start, break and reverse every time.[/QUOTE]
I don't have a source for this, but if I recall correctly a few years ago the Australian government wanted to do something like that. Basically you had to pay the government for pretty much well everything you do in the car, despite it being YOUR fuel and YOUR car.
[QUOTE=EpicRandomnes;38368176]I don't have a source for this, but if I recall correctly a few years ago the Australian government wanted to do something like that. Basically you had to pay the government for pretty much well everything you do in the car, despite it being YOUR fuel and YOUR car.[/QUOTE]
That is beyond dumb.
Razer, maybe before you start adding iritating shit you'll make sure to keep your fucking mices alive for more than 12 months, fuckshitbitch.
I used to love Razer but what the hell
[QUOTE=SgtTupelo;38366209]If this is the actual reason, why can't they have a tiny flash-memory inside the mouse that it stores your settings into? Then when Windows has finished installing the mouse, it automatically applies your settings to the software.[/QUOTE]
That's actually what they did before Synapse (the new thing is called Synapse 2.0 because the flash memory ones were the actual Synapse 1.0 models) but according [I]to them[/I] it's not "affordable" to store settings inside the mouse anymore and it's much easier to just have to download them whenever you use a new computer/not be able to do anything if you don't have internet
[QUOTE=latin_geek;38368224]That's actually what they did before Synapse (the new thing is called Synapse 2.0 because the flash memory ones were the actual Synapse 1.0 models) but according [I]to them[/I] it's not "affordable" to store settings inside the mouse anymore and it's much easier to just have to download them whenever you use a new computer/not be able to do anything if you don't have internet[/QUOTE]
That's cute. They remove functionality from their hardware and yet it keeps getting more expensive.
"Our products work perfectly out of the box. Unlike DRM games or other media that require an always-on connection, you can use any of our peripherals right out of the box, even if someone doesn’t install Synapse 2.0, and whether a user is offline or online.
One of the biggest misunderstandings is the equation of Synapse 2.0 to always-on DRM. It’s a popular notion that anything requiring a login has DRM included in it, and this misconception is one that easily gets the community fired up. In this case however, it’s incorrect.
Once registered, Synapse 2.0 works offline and never needs to be online again. So basically, a user creates an account, saves initial settings, and if there’s no internet connection, it doesn’t matter - settings are saved on the client PC and are not synced to the cloud. Synapse 2.0 works offline."
I have to admit I think it's rather strange that this has kicked off. My friend bought a Razer mouse and never bothered installing the drivers for it and it works fine, and in order to use the Synapse features you only need to activate/register it once. I think that a lot of the people complaining about this haven't even used it...
I dont know why people need such top notch mice(mouse?). I'm quite fine with my microsoft stock mouse that came with my old P4 AMD 6-7 years ago.
[QUOTE=O'Neil;38368885]I dont know why people need such top notch mice(mouse?). I'm quite fine with my microsoft stock mouse that came with my old P4 AMD 6-7 years ago.[/QUOTE]
Some things are overkill but I absolutely love my Logitech G500. The extra buttons are great for browsing the web and help out in a few games here and there. The extra sensitivity is also nicer because I find regular mice to be infuriatingly slow to move. It's obviously non-essential, but you could say that about most things. Not needed, but certainly appreciated :)
[QUOTE=ChaosUnleash;38368837]
My friend bought a Razer mouse and never bothered installing the drivers for it and it works fine[/QUOTE]
...as a standard $10 plug-and-play mouse, without all the features you're actually paying for like macros and DPI switching and stuff. That's all Synapse.
You dont need more than a 4096bit EEPROM to store settings
these literally cost a cent
Well, I guess it's time to start learning keyboard shortcuts.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;38368951]...as a standard $10 plug-and-play mouse, without all the features you're actually paying for like macros and DPI switching and stuff. That's all Synapse.[/QUOTE]
I'm fairly sure the DPI switching worked and the extra buttons worked in web-browsing (next/previous page), so although the Macro feature didn't work the mouse was still pretty much functional. Also, in order to get the drivers to install would you not have to download them in the first place, which would mean you had an available internet connection?
I've not used a Synapse 1 mouse so I'm not certain on this, but would you not require the drivers to be installed for the mouse to properly function anyway? Even if it did remember it's settings surely it would need the drivers installed to be able to run them? Might be wrong on that though.
Honestly unless there's something vital I'm missing it seems as if this is just people hating for the sake of it. If you buy a Razer mouse you're obviously wanting to be using it for gaming. The amount of people who play games on their PCs without any internet connection must be absolutely tiny because of Steam and Origin and most PC games now requiring internet to even function, so the chances of you buying a Razer product and never being connected to the internet seem pretty slim. Even if somebody does want to buy one of these devices the back of the box AND their official website make it pretty damn clear that an internet connection is required:
System Requirements
PC / Mac with USB port
Windows® 8/ Windows® 7 / Windows Vista® / Windows® XP (32-bit)/ Mac OS X (v10.6-10.7 and above)
Internet connection
100MB of free hard disk space
Razer Synapse 2.0 account registration (requiring a valid e-mail address), software download,
license agreement acceptance, and internet connection is required to use full feature set of product and to receive updates.
The only thing I can understand is people getting annoyed at their servers being down and hence being unable to activate the product which seems like a bit of an oversight on their part, maybe an Offline option should be included with the drivers - that way they can remove the whole 'internet connection required' thing from the back of the box. Seems like a minor balls up that's just ended up with people overreacting.
Why is there DRM for a mouse.
It's not like I'm gonna go out of my way to find a bootlegged version of the same mouse or anything. What are you doing, Razer?
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;38363561]Razer makes great hardware, in my experience, but their support is lacking.[/QUOTE]
Hah. I thought so too until I got a Logitech G5 and G15, easily the two most durable and valuable peripherals I've ever purchased. And the software support for it is light years ahead.
Basically I don't know why Razer with their plastic shit even exists but oh well. It keeps the Logitechs in stock.
[QUOTE=MIPS;38366905]Assuming their coding isn't so bloated that it makes the DV-NTSC video codec look lightweight (and unfortunately, it probably is not) you can't advertise a mouse with a whopping 64kb of onboard storage for backing up your macros onto.[/QUOTE]
Just gotta spin it right. It's not 64kb, it's enough space for hundreds of gaming profiles!
Do gaming mice make any significant difference in comparison to normal mice?
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;38370534]Do gaming mice make any significant difference in comparison to normal mice?[/QUOTE]
If by "normal mice" you mean a microsoft intellimouse or something then yeah, they key difference is that most have a laser sensor rather than an optical one. And they often have more buttons and macro buttons (press button multiple things happen) and interchangeable weights and stuff like that. If you take the time to set everything up it can mean something like slightly quicker sniper aiming or faster spells in gameplay.
And they feel and look nicer most of the time.
And some russian bypasses it using some most silly method ever
a fucking 2GB MicroSD card would cost less than 1/10th of the price of the mouse.
we have no room for storing our shit boohooo.
My cheap 15€ mouse has fucking onboard memory enough for huge macros etc. AND I can switch DPI, use my saved macros etc. without running the program! AND I can keep them without installing the program! I have to only use it for changing what buttons do what and what macros are what.
It's like a huge slap in the face of their customers.
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