US Jewish paper's column on assassinating the president to "preserve Israel's existence" catches Sec - Polidicks

[QUOTE=sltungle;34334482]If I said, "we should go to war with Israel," would it be more justified? In the end the exact same thing happens - people die. A lot of guilty people die, and unfortunately, so do a lot of innocent people. Yet people on here every day say stuff like that; nobody disagrees with 'war', that's justifiable, apparently.[/QUOTE]War is a lot less serious than a holocaust. And it would still be wrong. The Israeli government does a lot of bad things, but their people shouldn't have to suffer for it.

eh must be republicans.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;34334539]War is a lot less serious than a holocaust. And it would still be wrong. The Israeli government does a lot of bad things, but their people shouldn't have to suffer for it.[/QUOTE] War IS a holocaust. A bunch of unwitting young men are sent by angry old men to die. And as far as Israel goes I can't help but find the irony of the European Jew going from ghetto to Israel and then a generation or two later turning Palestine into the largest walled ghetto in the world.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;34334582]War IS a holocaust. A bunch of unwitting young men are sent by angry old men to die. And as far as Israel goes I can't help but find the irony of the European Jew going from ghetto to Israel and then a generation or two later turning Palestine into the largest walled ghetto in the world.[/QUOTE] On the other hand, if you survive the war as an unwitting young man, you get the pleasure of being an angry old man of sending someone else's grandchildren to do what you did. :v:

[QUOTE=Jawalt;34334582]War IS a holocaust. A bunch of unwitting young men are sent by angry old men to die. And as far as Israel goes I can't help but find the irony of the European Jew going from ghetto to Israel and then a generation or two later turning Palestine into the largest walled ghetto in the world.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/war[/url] [quote]war (countable and uncountable; plural wars) (uncountable) Organized, large-scale, armed conflict between countries or between national, ethnic, or other sizeable groups, usually involving the engagement of military forces.  [quotations ▼] (countable) A particular conflict of this kind.  [quotations ▼] (countable) By extension, any conflict, or anything resembling a conflict. (rhetorical) A campaign against something. The "war on drugs" is a campaign against the use of narcotic drugs. The "war on terror" is a campaign against terrorist crime. (business, countable) A bout of fierce competition in trade. I reaped the benefit of the car dealerships' price war, getting my car for far less than it's worth. The cellular phone companies were engaged in a freebie war, each offering various services thrown in when one purchased a plan. (uncountable) A particular card game for two players.[/quote] [url]http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/holocaust[/url] [quote]holocaust (plural holocausts) A sacrifice to a god that is completely burned to ashes.  [quotations ▼] The annihilation or near-annihilation of a group of animals or people, whether by natural or deliberate agency (e.g., “nuclear holocaust”) The state-sponsored mass murder of an ethnic group. In particular (and often with an initial capital) the “Final Solution”, a euphemism used by the Nazis to describe the mass killing of Jews and others either in camps equipped with industrial gassing and crematorium equipment or by more conventional means. [/quote]

[QUOTE=sltungle;34334390]I never said it did. It's ISRAEL that's crazy, not the Jewish people in general. Hence why I was replying to a comment on nuking Israel (although that'd be a little far, MAD and such). [editline]22nd January 2012[/editline] Also try to distinguish between 'a holocaust' and 'The Holocaust' - they're TWO very different things.[/QUOTE] You brought up the word holocaust, which [b]ONLY[/b] makes sense in the context of the German Holocaust, or Jewish sacrifice. You said this about Israel, the Jewish State. You are either anti-semitic, or are an absolute imbecile. [QUOTE=sltungle;34334482]If I said, "we should go to war with Israel," would it be more justified? In the end the exact same thing happens - people die. A lot of guilty people die, and unfortunately, so do a lot of innocent people. Yet people on here every day say stuff like that; nobody disagrees with 'war', that's justifiable, apparently.[/QUOTE] Anyone who says we should go to war with Israel is a fucking moron anyways.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;34334890]You brought up the word holocaust, which [b]ONLY[/b] makes sense in the context of the German Holocaust, or Jewish sacrifice. You said this about Israel, the Jewish State. You are either anti-semitic, or are an absolute imbecile.[/QUOTE] In the context of a nuking of Israel 'holocaust' is an appropriate word - the whole country would be pretty much burned - 'whole' and 'burned' being the two words which holocaust is derived from (although like I said that's not exactly a good idea, what with MAD and all). Also, I don't dislike Jews, I dislike ISRAEL - there's a HUGE difference.

[QUOTE=Laferio;34331296]I think it'd be wonderful if the US aligned itself with Russia. Just imagine, The US and Russia holding hands.[/QUOTE] We have so much in common, maybe we could fight radical islamist together :v:

[QUOTE=sltungle;34335161]In the context of a nuking of Israel 'holocaust' is an appropriate word - the whole country would be pretty much burned - 'whole' and 'burned' being the two words which holocaust is derived from (although like I said that's not exactly a good idea, what with MAD and all). Also, I don't dislike Jews, I dislike ISRAEL - there's a HUGE difference.[/QUOTE]That is still horrible. How do you not get this?

[QUOTE=sltungle;34333908]It's almost starting to seem nowadays that a holocaust would be justified. Israel has turned into the very monster that it was created to protect the Jewish people from.[/QUOTE] I honestly don't think you could have made a worse choice of words.

[QUOTE=sltungle;34335161]In the context of a nuking of Israel 'holocaust' is an appropriate word - the whole country would be pretty much burned - 'whole' and 'burned' being the two words which holocaust is derived from (although like I said that's not exactly a good idea, what with MAD and all). Also, I don't dislike Jews, I dislike ISRAEL - there's a HUGE difference.[/QUOTE] No it isn't appropriate. The only time the word "holocaust" is appropriate is in the context of 3 things: 1) The Jewish bible and religion 2) A genocide 3) A worldwide nuclear war

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;34334711][url]http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/war[/url] [url]http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/holocaust[/url][/QUOTE] Holy shit literal mcgee. I was pointing out how you were like completely understating how terrible war is. [editline]21st January 2012[/editline] The people who died in Dresden, Hiroshima, etc want a word with you sonny.

[QUOTE=sltungle;34335161]In the context of a nuking of Israel 'holocaust' is an appropriate word - the whole country would be pretty much burned - 'whole' and 'burned' being the two words which holocaust is derived from (although like I said that's not exactly a good idea, what with MAD and all). Also, I don't dislike Jews, I dislike ISRAEL - there's a HUGE difference.[/QUOTE] So kill them all in an atomic fire. Killing millions of innocent Israelis, and depending where its dropped, Syrians, Lebanese, Jordanians, and Saudis. Along with causing hundreds of thousands of radiological cancer down wind of the nuclear blast(s) that result in Oil Prices crashing because the state of Israel has been destroyed and the United States and most of the world going into panic mode. You're a retard.

I must not be keeping on top of things. Last I heard, Israel were the Good guys. also, that Column was the idiotic blunder of one man, not israel, So i don't know why everyone is bashing them so much. Also: Sltungle is an Idiot.

[QUOTE=imperialrock;34337217]I must not be keeping on top of things. Last I heard, Israel were the Good guys. also, that Column was the idiotic blunder of one man, not israel, So i don't know why everyone is bashing them so much. Also: Sltungle is an Idiot.[/QUOTE] Israel is only the good guy if you ignore a whole lot of shit. Bottom line: No one is the good guy in this conflict. Everyone is either persecuting, terrorizing, or killing innocent people.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;34337263]Israel is only the good guy if you ignore a whole lot of shit. Bottom line: No one is the good guy in this conflict. Everyone is either persecuting, terrorizing, or killing innocent people.[/QUOTE] Well, that's nothing new I suppose. it makes me glad that I live in a 1st world country, atleast.

[QUOTE=imperialrock;34337217]I must not be keeping on top of things. Last I heard, Israel were the Good guys. also, that Column was the idiotic blunder of one man, not israel, So i don't know why everyone is bashing them so much. Also: Sltungle is an Idiot.[/QUOTE] They're both pretty bad, but Israel is the West's ally and only democracy in the region so they're generally seen as the good guys.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;34331434]And doing what? Skipping through fields of daisies?[/QUOTE] Maybe put their resources towards Space travel with China for example instead of this useless shit everyone's currently doing.

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy16;34337697]They're both pretty bad, but Israel is the West's ally and only democracy in the region so they're generally seen as the good guys.[/QUOTE] What about Turkey, or Qatar, or the EUA, or Saudi?

Isn't that normal political rhetoric for the US, death to this politician that I don't like? Still lolling at the delusions of grandeur about a guy writing a newspaper column giving the go-ahead for covert Mossad agents to kill the president.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;34337758]Isn't that normal political rhetoric for the US, death to this politician that I don't like? Still lolling at the delusions of grandeur about a guy writing a newspaper column giving the go-ahead for covert Mossad agents to kill the president.[/QUOTE] No, just usually a few crackpot douches in the Republican Party/Tea Party.

[QUOTE=sltungle;34333908]It's almost starting to seem nowadays that a holocaust would be justified. [/QUOTE] this is the single worst thing i've ever read on this forum what a dick

for fucks sake there are jews that hate israel and want it destroyed because "the messiah needs to come".the fact that people take these nutjobs seriously and blame all of hte jews is very sad.however,the secret service is doing its job for waht ever threat and i dont know the extreme level of jews in the USA,here there are the very strict ones,the overly strict one,the nutjobs and the traditionalists.other then that people in israel support the USA very much and obama is only hated by the rightists because of the settlement crap,however many rightists now support him after the UN crap last year. TLDR dont generalise jews, israel like usa, dont be a bigot

[QUOTE=ewitwins;34337741]What about Turkey, or Qatar, or the EUA, or Saudi?[/QUOTE] Are all [B]evil[/B] dictatorships that we have no choice but align ourselves with against the [b]more evil[/b] dictatorships.

Why is everyone discussing Israel all of a sudden. This article isn't even about Israel. [editline]22nd January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=yawmwen;34337263]Israel is only the good guy if you ignore a whole lot of shit. Bottom line: No one is the good guy in this conflict. Everyone is either persecuting, terrorizing, or killing innocent people.[/QUOTE] Israel has a lower intention, but a higher outcome. Terrorist organizations have higher intentions, but a lower outcome. Both are assholes when they want to.

[QUOTE=ewitwins;34337741]What about Turkey, or Qatar, or the EUA, or Saudi?[/QUOTE] What about them? They are our allies as well. [editline]22nd January 2012[/editline] Although they're our allies regrettably, as most of them have corruption issues and horrible governments

[QUOTE=yawmwen;34330625]Because there is a very pro-zionist movement in the United States. It isn't hard to find people who believe that a Jewish state should exist.[/QUOTE] difference between having a jewish state exist, and being its lapdog

[QUOTE=ewitwins;34333709]Does Ron Paul support Israel, or no?[/QUOTE] He has said he wants to end all foreign aid, including Israel so they can get their Independence from the US. So i guess he's neutral.

[QUOTE=Glorbo;34340671]Why is everyone discussing Israel all of a sudden. This article isn't even about Israel. [/QUOTE] Because the man said Obama being assassinated is a perfectly good reason if it is to "preserve Israel".

[QUOTE=Laferio;34331296]I think it'd be wonderful if the US aligned itself with Russia. Just imagine, The US and Russia holding hands.[/QUOTE] and rthen russia starts jamming his big pecker up americas narrow ass-slit and hmmm fukin hot and hes just bouncin on top of americas tight ass-shaft going in abd aout. then his MOM comes in and its a gang-bang scene. thanks for your cment !@!