US Begins Massive Military Build Up Around Iran, Sending Up To 4 New Carrier Groups In Reg - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;22096615]Oh, wonderful. Absolutely smashing. All I need to do is to flip a coin as to which hellhole I'll be going to first: Iran, or North Korea.[/QUOTE] Iran is not a hell hole.

[QUOTE=NoDachi;22097899]Iran is not a hell hole.[/QUOTE] it is when shit is exploding.

America is putting his huge military horse dick infront of Iran

[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;22096615]Oh, wonderful. Absolutely smashing. All I need to do is to flip a coin as to which hellhole I'll be going to first: Iran, or North Korea.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.php?p=22097827&postcount=28[/url]

For fuck's sake go blow up North Korea, Obama. [editline]01:14PM[/editline] Or Israel. Those are the better options.

Eh, any country who says they will wipe western civilization off the map, while disregarding the UN, making weapons, threats, exporting and importing weapons between NK, etc etc... needs a good ass kicking from the west every now and then if you ask me

Honsestly, starpluck, the site you used is complete shit and this is a complete non-story. [url]http://www.debka.com/[/url] is the source of the info about the CBG moving in. It looks like a wacko neocon site. Example headline: "Lifting US ban on Russia's S-300s for Iran blows hole in Israel's security" The zero hedge site or w/e looks like it's just a blog, and a far-right one at that.

post a better source zerohedge is a finance blog

[QUOTE=JLea;22097027]wipe israel off the face of the earth[/QUOTE] They never said that. [QUOTE=TheTalon;22099238]Eh, any country who says they will wipe western civilization off the map, while disregarding the UN, making weapons, threats, exporting and importing weapons between NK, etc etc... needs a good ass kicking from the west every now and then if you ask me[/QUOTE] :cawg: Let's see, they allow IAEA inspectors inspect their facilities, they agreed to the western endorsed nuclear deal, willing to[URL="http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hvnXh-va5MdgKbTcCq7IAa8rE4IA"] resume talks [/URL]and they have their U.S visa denied so they cannot participate in U.N discussions, or attempt to solve any problems. With all that in mind, its impossible for them to make nuclear weapons. Also, once again, they never said they will wipe Israel off the map, nor made any threats. [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#.22Wiped_off_the_map.22_or_.22Vanish_from_the_pages_of_time.22_translation[/URL] [release] Many news sources repeated the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting statement as though Ahmadinejad had demanded that "Israel must be wiped off the map",[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-4"][5][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-5"][6][/URL] an English [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiom"]idiom[/URL] which means to "cause a place to stop existing",[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-6"][7][/URL] or to "obliterate totally",[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-7"][8][/URL] or "destroy completely".[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-8"][9][/URL] News sources currently continue to repeat this claim. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-9"][10][/URL] Ahmadinejad's phrase was " بايد از صفحه روزگار محو شود " according to the text published on the President's Office's website, and was a quote of Ayatollah Khomeini.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-ahmadinejad_mapwipe_Persian-10"][11][/URL] The translation presented by IRNA has been challenged by Arash Norouzi, who says the statement "wiped off the map" was never made and that Ahmadinejad did not refer to the nation or land mass of Israel, but to the "regime occupying Jerusalem". In his own words:[INDENT] So what did Ahmadinejad actually say? To quote his exact words in Persian: "Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad." That passage will mean nothing to most people, but one word might ring a bell: rezhim-e. It is the word "Regime", pronounced just like the English word with an extra "eh" sound at the end. Ahmadinejad did not refer to Israel the country or Israel the land mass, but the Israeli regime. This is a vastly significant distinction, as one cannot wipe a regime off the map. Ahmadinejad does not even refer to Israel by name, he instead uses the specific phrase "rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods" (regime occupying Jerusalem). So this raises the question.. what exactly did he want "wiped from the map"? The answer is: nothing. That's because the word "map" was never used. The Persian word for map, "nagsheh", is not contained anywhere in his original Persian quote, or, for that matter, anywhere in his entire speech. Nor was the western phrase "wipe out" ever said. Yet we are led to believe that Iran's President threatened to "wipe Israel off the map", despite never having uttered the words "map", "wipe out" or even "Israel" The full quote translated directly to English: "The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time". Word by word translation: Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from)..[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-rumor-11"][12][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-huffingtonpost.com-12"][13][/URL] [/INDENT]Arash Norouzi further adds that the The Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) translation is the source of the confusion:[INDENT] One may wonder: where did this false interpretation originate? Who is responsible for the translation that has sparked such worldwide controversy? The answer is surprising. The inflammatory 'wiped off the map' quote was first disseminated not by Iran's enemies, but by Iran itself. The Islamic Republic News Agency, Iran's official propaganda arm, used this phrasing in the English version of some of their news releases covering the World Without Zionism conference. International media including the BBC, Al Jazeera, Time magazine and countless others picked up the IRNA quote and made headlines out of it without verifying its accuracy, and rarely referring to the source. Iran's Foreign Minister soon attempted to clarify the statement, but the quote had a life of its own. Though the IRNA wording was inaccurate and misleading, the media assumed it was true, and besides, it made great copy.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-rumor-11"][12][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-huffingtonpost.com-12"][13][/URL] [/INDENT]According to [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Cole"]Juan Cole[/URL], a University of Michigan Professor of Modern Middle East and South Asian History, Ahmadinejad's statement should be translated as:[INDENT] The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem [I](een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods)[/I] must [vanish from] the page of time [I](bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad).[/I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-13"][14][/URL] [/INDENT]The [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Media_Research_Institute"]Middle East Media Research Institute[/URL] (MEMRI) translates the phrase similarly, as "be eliminated from the pages of history."[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-14"][15][/URL] According to Cole, "Ahmadinejad did not say he was going to 'wipe Israel off the map' because no such idiom exists in Persian". Instead, "He did say he hoped its regime, i.e., a Jewish-Zionist state occupying Jerusalem, would collapse."[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-Bronner-words-15"][16][/URL] On June 2, 2006 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian"]The Guardian[/URL] columnist and foreign correspondent [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Steele"]Jonathan Steele[/URL] published an article based on this line of reasoning.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-16"][17][/URL] Sources within the Iranian government have also denied that Ahmadinejad issued any sort of threat.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-pourwipe-17"][18][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-mottakiwipe-18"][19][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-larijaniwipe-19"][20][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-CNN-Iran-musnderstood-20"][21][/URL] On 20 February 2006, Iran's foreign minister denied that Tehran wanted to see Israel "wiped off the map," saying Ahmadinejad had been misunderstood. "Nobody can remove a country from the map. This is a misunderstanding in Europe of what our president mentioned," [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manouchehr_Mottaki"]Manouchehr Mottaki[/URL] told a news conference, speaking in English, after addressing the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament"]European Parliament[/URL]. "How is it possible to remove a country from the map? He is talking about the regime. We do not recognize legally this regime," he said.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-21"][22][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-22"][23][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-23"][24][/URL] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiraz_Dossa"]Shiraz Dossa[/URL], a professor of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_Science"]Political Science[/URL] at [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Francis_Xavier_University"]St. Francis Xavier University[/URL] in [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_Scotia"]Nova Scotia[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada"]Canada[/URL] who presented a paper at the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Conference_to_Review_the_Global_Vision_of_the_Holocaust"]International Conference to Review the Global Vision of the Holocaust[/URL] conference in Iran, believes the text is a mistranslation.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-24"][25][/URL][INDENT] Ahmadinejad was quoting the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayatollah_Khomeini"]Ayatollah Khomeini[/URL] in the specific speech under discussion: what he said was that "the occupation regime over [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem"]Jerusalem[/URL] should vanish from the page of time." No state action is envisaged in this lament; it denotes a spiritual wish, whereas the erroneous translation—"wipe Israel off the map"—suggests a military threat. There is a huge chasm between the correct and the incorrect translations. The notion that Iran can "wipe out" U.S.-backed, nuclear-armed Israel is ludicrous.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-Dossa1-25"][26][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-Dossa2-26"][27][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#cite_note-27"][28][/URL][/INDENT][/release][INDENT]Yet constantly Iran has stated that [URL="http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=218580"]they will not use force[/URL] over and over with dozens of sources, not only that but even IAEA reported that [URL="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6655"]Iran has peaceful nuclear activities [/URL]which obviously was not reported at all. But,[URL="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article1290331.ece"] Israel explicitly said they will use a nuclear strike on Iran first.[/URL] [/INDENT]

When the USA invades Iran they will be facing a almost 12 million reserve force that are mostly suicide battalions.

[QUOTE=Superwafflez;22096583]It's just to send them a clear message. They know the consequences of pissing the world off, and this is a little reminder of how quickly those consequences could be put into effect if need be.[/QUOTE] pissing the world off? what the fuck are they even doing?

So why the hell are we sending half our navy to the middle east? What the hell Obama?

[QUOTE=PEn1s lol;22102090]When the USA invades Iran they will be facing a almost 12 million reserve force that are mostly suicide battalions.[/QUOTE] Iran, not North Korea.

Article doesn't sound biased at all :downs:.

For fuck's sake, they aren't going to fight, the US will look extremely shit for attacking unprovoked. They'll use it as intimidation or for Iran to attack first.

Whats worse? North korea with nukes. Islam with nukes. Finland with nukes.

[QUOTE=PEn1s lol;22102090]When the USA invades Iran they will be facing a almost 12 million reserve force that are mostly suicide battalions.[/QUOTE] First off, this '12 Million reserve force' are just a bunch of thugs in the Basij with maybe 1 out of 50 actually having access to a gun. Meanwhile Suicide Battalions? Are you fucking kidding me, this just shows how ignorant you are, Suicide attacks are completely unacceptable in Persian Culture with only the Arabs in the south using that tactic, and they want to secede from Iran so they aren't going to be fighting American troops.

Is there a lot of oil under Iran? [img]http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/who-has-the-oil.jpg[/img] ..apparently so...

[QUOTE=Broseph_;22110300]First off, this '12 Million reserve force' are just a bunch of thugs in the Basij with maybe 1 out of 50 actually having access to a gun. Meanwhile Suicide Battalions? Are you fucking kidding me, this just shows how ignorant you are, Suicide attacks are completely unacceptable in Persian Culture with only the Arabs in the south using that tactic, and they want to secede from Iran so they aren't going to be fighting American troops.[/QUOTE] At least Persian culture has some fucking ethics.

While there is a human race, there will always be war, conflict is an inevitable part of humanity.

[img]http://sqlchicken.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/tyler-durden.jpg[/img] Seems legit.

[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;22110078]Whats worse? North korea with nukes. Islam with nukes. Finland with nukes.[/QUOTE] I love the way Islam is listed between two countries. Bravo.

[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;22110078]Islam with nukes.[/QUOTE] all muslims = dangerous? lol

I'm simply stating a fact through inductive reasoning here. The United States should not consider itself the world police. Everyone hates them, and it won't get people to listen to them or support them.

They are not going to have much to fight, since people are also against the government and there aren't any terrorists there.

[QUOTE=NoDachi;22097899]Iran is not a hell hole.[/QUOTE] Not until we start dropping bombs and leveling anything taller than a dog house.

[QUOTE=PEn1s lol;22102090]When the USA invades Iran they will be facing a almost 12 million reserve force that are mostly suicide battalions.[/QUOTE] Where do you get this?

Upon the fleet's arrival, Ahmadenijad recieves an email from Obama. "lol dude didnt' we tell u we were srs about the nuk3s"

[QUOTE=BusterBluth;22111044]Where do you get this?[/QUOTE] He probably got the source from some reports of the Iran-Iraq War.

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