• Major Steam glitch - Fixed - Nobody in here knows what monopoly means
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[QUOTE=Andre Gomes;49389209]Since now we can delete the games without any support or email approval, does that mean someone could just have deleted all my games due to a glitch? thanks valve[/QUOTE] I think you can only delete games through your library right? So they should be safe
[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/3y7m88/steam_is_fucking_up_hard_right_now_signed_into_a/cyb7l09[/url] [QUOTE]It's a problem with their caching-server (varnish), caching pages that should not be cached (such as Account-Details, Cart, etc.). It invalidates after some time and is re-cached when the next user visits the page with their profile. You are not actually logged in (as in, you take over the session of the user), you just see pages rendered for others than yourself. This is why different parts of steam appear as different users. Which page you see is probably dependent on the edge node (first server you connect to) closest to you, hence why different users see different profiles. My guess to how this could've happened is that an untested configuration got activated when steam went down earlier, e.g. due to an auto-conf service (puppet, chef) pulling an untested config or some of their live servers being replaced by staging / development servers. It's also possible that they were under heavy load and the engineer on duty reconfigured all their edge nodes to cache more aggressively. Let's hope they fix this fast, because this is a major data leak. I can see private E-Mail and account names. Let's hope their cache server is not delivering internal pages. Edit: /u/LymiaAluysia made an important point about whether cookies are being cached. As far as I can tell, no HTTP-Headers are being cached which includes cookies. Below is a screenshot where I see the profile of someone else though the steam id in the cookie is still my own: [url]http://i.imgur.com/TK9FFvx.png[/url] I'm hoping this is also true for login and store pages.[/QUOTE]
don't do anything with your cards. It's a caching error, the best course of action is to have 0 interaction with steam servers right now
[QUOTE=Banned?;49389308]It's pretty sad that SteamDB is the one giving us all this info on the fly and not, ya know, VALVE THEMSELVES BECAUSE IT'S THEIR SERVICE.[/QUOTE] But at the same time, the advice is bizarre and unhelpful. Don't unlink your information guys, it'll only hurt you in some vague way, just leave it up there for some guy to potentially steal and abuse. That's somehow safer. The best way to protect yourself is to not use Steam Services, because ____ does not using them somehow prevent people from using mine? How? If you think you know something tell me what the fuck is going on
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;49389322]It's Christmas, I'm sure they didn't expect this at all[/QUOTE] Even then, Valve is a major corporation running their own marketplace. They need to be prompt in their responses, Christmas or not.
[QUOTE=LaTrefle;49389317]Can somebody verify this? Im scared as fuck right now.[/QUOTE] I fiddled around with pages before Valve shut it down for science's sake, and it doesn't appear that you can actually make changes to accounts. Removing items from a cart that I found just acted like it was removing them from MY cart. The only thing that the glitch has done so far is expose your account details, purchase history, and activation history to other users. No one has power to actually change anything with your account luckily.
[QUOTE=t h e;49389340]I'd imagine it'd be hard to give out a PR statement as such a large company when you're trying to focus on fixing the issue.[/QUOTE] If they had an actual structure and not "idk do what you want" maybe they [I]could[/I] have someone explain the situation and have people fix it at the same time
[QUOTE=_jesterk;49389332][IMG]http://i.4cdn.org/v/1451077774845.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.4cdn.org/v/1451078879382.png[/IMG] [video=youtube;Jbck2VnDJwM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbck2VnDJwM[/video][/QUOTE] Happy birthday Jesus Fucking Christ.
[QUOTE=t h e;49389340]I'd imagine it'd be hard to give out a PR statement as such a large company when you're trying to focus on fixing the issue.[/QUOTE] So they don't have a dedicated PR department like every other triple A studio? They are literally incapable of communicating with customers and this isn't the first time they have shown that
[QUOTE=_jesterk;49389332][IMG]http://i.4cdn.org/v/1451077774845.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.4cdn.org/v/1451078879382.png[/IMG] [video=youtube;Jbck2VnDJwM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbck2VnDJwM[/video][/QUOTE] not believing this to be honest
[url]http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/458604254431478327/[/url]
If you can actually defend valve right now take a good look at how much loyalty you're placing in a company that exists to make money off of you. There is no altruism in corporations. Valve does not love you as anything more than cash flow.
[QUOTE=_jesterk;49389332][IMG]http://i.4cdn.org/v/1451078879382.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Holy fuck, I hope this isn't real.
I'm experiencing none of these issues... I should probably log out of steam just to be safe.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;49389358]But at the same time, the advice is bizarre and unhelpful. Don't unlink your information guys, it'll only hurt you in some vague way, just leave it up there for some guy to potentially steal and abuse. That's somehow safer. The best way to protect yourself is to not use Steam Services, because ____ does not using them somehow prevent people from using mine? How? If you think you know something tell me what the fuck is going on[/QUOTE] if you access the page with the info it gets cached
[QUOTE=Holt!;49389374]Holy fuck, I hope this isn't real.[/QUOTE] He can do a claim back for fraud but I think then Steam will ban the account. :v: :v: :v:
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;49389372]If you can actually defend valve right now take a good look at how much loyalty you're placing in a company that exists to make money off of you. There is no altruism in corporations. Valve does not love you as anything more than cash flow.[/QUOTE] Or maybe I'm "defending" Valve because I like to play the devil's advocate and not assume the worst of others. But thank you for that wise piece. People are jumping crazy to conclusions, I'm not saying Valve is 100% in the right but some of the things I read are just stupid when you look at it from an unbiased angle.
Remember guys, Valve is a responsible company capable and trustworthy of running a monopoly on digital and PC gaming. What could possibly go wrong?
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;49389372]If you can actually defend valve right now take a good look at how much loyalty you're placing in a company that exists to make money off of you. There is no altruism in corporations. Valve does not love you as anything more than cash flow.[/QUOTE] Valve used to be good. That was 9 years ago give or take.
Oh god damn it, I made my first steam purchase in months last night with CC. But I haven't logged in at all today, am I fine doing nothing or am I hosed?
[QUOTE=_jesterk;49389332][IMG]http://i.4cdn.org/v/1451077774845.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.4cdn.org/v/1451078879382.png[/IMG] [video=youtube;Jbck2VnDJwM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbck2VnDJwM[/video][/QUOTE] Highly skeptical they managed to purchase $2,180 of items to your account in one purchase? is that even possible? pretty sure thats not possible. ( also the servers have been fucking up for the past hour, again highly skeptical )
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;49389356]don't do anything with your cards. It's a caching error, the best course of action is to have 0 interaction with steam servers right now[/QUOTE] can you explain in super layman terms how removing my card from my steam account has put me at risk? people just keep dropping shit about caches and session id's and im clueless and im kinda shitting it here
[QUOTE=_jesterk;49389332][IMG]http://i.4cdn.org/v/1451077774845.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.4cdn.org/v/1451078879382.png[/IMG] [video=youtube;Jbck2VnDJwM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbck2VnDJwM[/video][/QUOTE] Source? Is this yours? It sounded like no one could actually do anything besides look at stuff. Oh wait, your source is /v/ and it's going to auto-prune.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;49389358]But at the same time, the advice is bizarre and unhelpful. Don't unlink your information guys, it'll only hurt you in some vague way, just leave it up there for some guy to potentially steal and abuse. That's somehow safer. The best way to protect yourself is to not use Steam Services, because ____ does not using them somehow prevent people from using mine? How? If you think you know something tell me what the fuck is going on[/QUOTE] Accessing the Steam store is what causes your account to get cached. If you don't access Steam, your account can't be cached. At least, that's the way I'm understanding it.
[QUOTE=riki2cool;49389268]Fuck, and there are probably people out there logging account details in attempt to blackmail people and shit later on[/QUOTE] Blackmail? How, exactly?
[QUOTE=Holt!;49389374]Holy fuck, I hope this isn't real.[/QUOTE] its not, you need server auth to edit or actually do anything with the data
So are the servers shut down now? Please tell me the situation is being handled
Just checked my e-mails and bank account history. Looks like I'm safe. Merry Christmas guys!
well hopefully the anger will actually result in a change this time.
I'm in the part of the grief phase where I'm blaming ea for not being a good competitor for valve.
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