If you want to laugh ..... CHECK THIS OUT:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KtZkS2vtXE[/url]
Its sooooooo FUNNY!!!!!!!!
[QUOTE=Anonim;13564083]Watch this:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYAgyv2MKyI[/url] (part 1)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUaeID9Lap0[/url] (part 2)[/QUOTE]
Part 1 - They should've accepted our offer to divide the land at the beginning and they didn't so that's the root of all problems and we can't go back and change it and if you think we're gonna move thousands of people just because they all of a sudden to accept, then excuse me, but you live in some impossible fantasy.
Little racist is back, i see.
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13635774]Part 1 - They should've accepted our offer to divide the land at the beginning[/quote]
[highlight][B][I]Why?[/I][/B][/highlight]
-Germans killed Jews. If anything, [i]they[/i] should have lost land for a Jewish state. They already lost a fuckload of land to the creation of Poland and other states.
-Several countries offered places for Jewish immigrants.
-Palestinians had [I]nothing[/I] to do with the Holocaust. Jews were allowed to live there peacefully under Palestinian rule, with some, but [I]few[/I] tensions.
-Zionist terror organisations like Irgun forced the Brits and the UN to give about half of Palestinian land to a minority of Jews in the country. The Jews also got the most developed, fertile areas along the coast in the west (in addition to the desert).
Where the fuck is the fairness in that, and why the fuck should they have 'accepted' this blatant theft of their land? The Jews had right to be angry, but not at the Palestinians, and they had no right to take their land. Their refusal was not the root of the problem, the forced creation of the Israeli state was.
[QUOTE=Fred;13635846]Little racist is back, i see.[/QUOTE]
I see you haven't approved with your jokes..
[QUOTE=Anonim;13635867][highlight][B][I]Why?[/I][/B][/highlight]
-Germans killed Jews. If anything, [i]they[/i] should have lost land for a Jewish state. They already lost a fuckload of land to the creation of Poland and other states.
-Several countries offered places for Jewish immigrants.
-Palestinians had [I]nothing[/I] to do with the Holocaust. Jews were allowed to live there peacefully under Palestinian rule, with some, but [I]few[/I] tensions.
-Zionist terror organisations like Irgun forced the Brits and the UN to give about half of Palestinian land to a minority of Jews in the country. The Jews also got the most developed, fertile areas along the coast in the west (in addition to the desert).
Where the fuck is the fairness in that, and why the fuck should they have 'accepted' this blatant theft of their land? The Jews had right to be angry, but not at the Palestinians, and they had no right to take their land. Their refusal was not the root of the problem, the forced creation of the Israeli state was.[/QUOTE]
- What are you talking about? they should've given us Germany? lol.
- What? What countries?
- What Palestinian rule? they done riots way before Israel was established and killed many Jews. If it wasn't for the Jews, Israel\Palestine would be a land of sand and camel shit. How do I know that? because for the last few centuries they haven't done anything.
- Zionist terror organizations? What's the movie called?
Let's set aside the reasons why Jews deserve Israel, and let me ask you a question, throughout history many countries attacked and conquered many other countries, why is it that when Jews do it, it's completely not ok? - That's right, let's forget the reasons why we deserve Israel and go with the classic 'conquering'. Like it or not - that's what happened.
Christ, you're impossible to argue with. You answer every argument with "WHAT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND? FUCK PALESTINIAN UNTERMENSCH! >:("
Hey, if some warmongering faggots oppressed people, Jews can, too! If European immigrants already did Apartheid in South Africa, why can't Jews in Palestine? Hell, why not vote in Israel Beiteinu and go all out with a Palestinian Holocaust? Yeah! Command and conquer! Tried and true! Fuck human rights and fairness! Fuck Palestine!
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13636096]If it wasn't for the Jews, Israel\Palestine would be a land of sand and camel shit.[/QUOTE]
Now this is what he meant.
[quote=Fred]Little racist is back, i see.[/quote]
Someone please permaban the racist.
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[QUOTE=Anonim;13636216]Christ, you're impossible to argue with. You answer every argument with "WHAT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND? FUCK PALESTINIAN UNTERMENSCH! >:("
Hey, if some warmongering faggots oppressed people, Jews can, too! If European immigrants already did Apartheid in South Africa, why can't Jews in Palestine? Hell, why not vote in Israel Beiteinu and go all out with a Palestinian Holocaust? Yeah! Command and conquer! Tried and true! Fuck human rights and fairness! Fuck Palestine!
Now this is what he meant.[/QUOTE]
Lol, first of all, get updated, Kadima's at the top so you can relax now if you're so obsessed with the Arab's safety, and secondly, what holocaust? do you really think that facist has the power to do any of that? he's a fucking dumb ass and even my friends who say it would be better having Israel with out Arabs in it don't choose him because he doesn't know shit about being a prime minister, he fucking lives in some lame movie.
And you don't understand, bro. We came and conquered, nobody makes them stay, the gazans can leave if they ask to, but no country wants them, so, we're kind of stuck with them, understand?
But let me ask you a question - why is it that the arabs in the west bank prosper, while the gazans are just being fucked? WELL, simply because gaza is obssesed with destroying Israel and the arabs in the west bank have forgotten all about the Jewish\Arabic conflict and live their lives, they can vote, they shop, work, go to parties and live good lives, unlike gaza who just attack us.
Once hamas puts their guns down, the war ends - Once Israel puts their guns down, Israel ends. Simple as that, if you check carefully, you'll see they started attacking Israel, we just respond, if it's strongly, well, they should learn from the past mistakes and not attack again, unless they want another war. Israel's chasing peace and if hamas doesn't stop with their bullshit, it's their problem, if you have some awesome solution nobody heard of then tell us now.
I remind you, look at the arabs in the west bank, they prosper and they don't attack Israel - unlike gaza.
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13636493]Lol, first of all, get updated, Kadima's at the top so you can relax now if you're so obsessed with the Arab's safety, and secondly, what holocaust? do you really think that facist has the power to do any of that? he's a fucking dumb ass and even my friends who say it would be better having Israel with out Arabs in it don't choose him because he doesn't know shit about being a prime minister, he fucking lives in some lame movie.
And you don't understand, bro. [B]We came and conquered[/B], nobody makes them stay, [B]the gazans can leave if they ask to, but no country wants them, so, we're kind of stuck with them, understand?[/B]
But let me ask you a question - why is it that the arabs in the west bank prosper, while the gazans are just being fucked? WELL, simply because gaza is obssesed with destroying Israel and the arabs in the west bank have forgotten all about the Jewish\Arabic conflict and live their lives, they can vote, they shop, work, go to parties and live good lives, unlike gaza who just attack us.
Once hamas puts their guns down, the war ends - Once Israel puts their guns down, Israel ends. Simple as that, if you check carefully, you'll see they started attacking Israel, we just respond, if it's strongly, well, they should learn from the past mistakes and not attack again, unless they want another war. Israel's chasing peace and if hamas doesn't stop with their bullshit, it's their problem, if you have some awesome solution nobody heard of then tell us now.
I remind you, look at the arabs in the west bank, they prosper and they don't attack Israel - unlike gaza.[/QUOTE]
You see the irony?
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13636493]Lol, first of all, get updated, Kadima's at the top so you can relax now if you're so obsessed with the Arab's safety, and secondly, what holocaust? do you really think that facist has the power to do any of that? he's a fucking dumb ass and even my friends who say it would be better having Israel with out Arabs in it don't choose him because he doesn't know shit about being a prime minister, he fucking lives in some lame movie.
And you don't understand, bro. We came and conquered, nobody makes them stay, the gazans can leave if they ask to, but no country wants them, so, we're kind of stuck with them, understand?
But let me ask you a question - why is it that the arabs in the west bank prosper, while the gazans are just being fucked? WELL, simply because gaza is obssesed with destroying Israel and the arabs in the west bank have forgotten all about the Jewish\Arabic conflict and live their lives, they can vote, they shop, work, go to parties and live good lives, unlike gaza who just attack us.
Once hamas puts their guns down, the war ends - Once Israel puts their guns down, Israel ends. Simple as that, if you check carefully, you'll see they started attacking Israel, we just respond, if it's strongly, well, they should learn from the past mistakes and not attack again, unless they want another war. Israel's chasing peace and if hamas doesn't stop with their bullshit, it's their problem, if you have some awesome solution nobody heard of then tell us now.
I remind you, look at the arabs in the west bank, they prosper and they don't attack Israel - unlike gaza.[/QUOTE]
Not racist.
There's a weird smell around here.. I was going to say burnt toast, but smells more like racism.
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13636493]Lol, first of all, get updated, Kadima's at the top so you can relax now if you're so obsessed with the Arab's safety, and secondly, what holocaust? do you really think that facist has the power to do any of that? he's a fucking dumb ass and even my friends who say it would be better having Israel with out Arabs in it don't choose him because he doesn't know shit about being a prime minister, he fucking lives in some lame movie.
And you don't understand, bro. We came and conquered, nobody makes them stay, the gazans can leave if they ask to, but no country wants them, so, we're kind of stuck with them, understand?
But let me ask you a question - why is it that the arabs in the west bank prosper, while the gazans are just being fucked? WELL, simply because gaza is obssesed with destroying Israel and the arabs in the west bank have forgotten all about the Jewish\Arabic conflict and live their lives, they can vote, they shop, work, go to parties and live good lives, unlike gaza who just attack us.
Once hamas puts their guns down, the war ends - Once Israel puts their guns down, Israel ends. Simple as that, if you check carefully, you'll see they started attacking Israel, we just respond, if it's strongly, well, they should learn from the past mistakes and not attack again, unless they want another war. Israel's chasing peace and if hamas doesn't stop with their bullshit, it's their problem, if you have some awesome solution nobody heard of then tell us now.
I remind you, look at the arabs in the west bank, they prosper and they don't attack Israel - unlike gaza.[/QUOTE]
lets hear it for Firerain 2.
seems you've been subject to extreme political or religious propoganda dude...
holocaust was real, fuck you.
Edit: y'know this is what people often label as EVIL?
Evil= "my case is rightious because these guys started it, even if i started it i had a ridiculous reason to make myself believe that it was them who started, and therefore i will preach my hatred with ridiculous reasoning so people will label me as EVIL"
fine lie to yourself about facts but dont try to make us believe your "conspirasy"
"america doesn't exist... ITS A HOAX!!!"
[QUOTE=Bomimo;13636806]lets hear it for Firerain 2.
seems you've been subject to extreme political or religious propoganda dude...[/QUOTE]
No shit. Just report his ass.
Oh and [B]it's a fact[/B], if the Palestinians really did live here ever since we "LEFT" then they had so much time to do so much for the land in Israel, but they didn't, and ever since Jews 'came back' they changed the face of Israel, many settlements were built, many houses, farms, even Jews from Russia who had no knowledge in farming, became expert farmers no matter the difficulties caused by weather and quality of the land, and the riots of the Palestinians, the Jews even had enough time to assist Britain in world war 2, no matter their efficiency in the field. Then Israel was established and within 60 years Israel became so advanced, a strong army, a beautiful country.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IuHgBQcbKs[/url] - you can turn off the volume if it hurts your ears but look at the pics.
and check this [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5tDDkvXSI8[/url]
in 60 years.. including all the wars, I don't have to tell you anything about them.
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13636886]Oh and [B]it's a fact[/B], if the Palestinians really did live here ever since we "LEFT" then they had so much time to do so much for the land in Israel, but they didn't, and ever since Jews 'came back' they changed the face of Israel, many settlements were built, many houses, farms, even Jews from Russia who had no knowledge in farming, became expert farmers no matter the difficulties caused by weather and quality of the land, and the riots of the Palestinians, the Jews even had enough time to assist Britain in world war 2, no matter their efficiency in the field. Then Israel was established and within 60 years Israel became so advanced, a strong army, a beautiful country.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IuHgBQcbKs[/url] - you can turn off the volume if it hurts your ears but look at the pics.
and check this [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5tDDkvXSI8[/url]
in 60 years.. including all the wars, I don't have to tell you anything about them.[/QUOTE]
palestine was never independent
nor were they supported by the #1 super power in the world
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13636886]Oh and [B]it's a fact[/B], if the Palestinians really did live here ever since we "LEFT" then they had so much time to do so much for the land in Israel, but they didn't, and ever since Jews 'came back' they changed the face of Israel, many settlements were built, many houses, farms, even Jews from Russia who had no knowledge in farming, became expert farmers no matter the difficulties caused by weather and quality of the land, and the riots of the Palestinians, the Jews even had enough time to assist Britain in world war 2, no matter their efficiency in the field. Then Israel was established and within 60 years Israel became so advanced, a strong army, a beautiful country.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IuHgBQcbKs[/url] - you can turn off the volume if it hurts your ears but look at the pics.
and check this [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5tDDkvXSI8[/url]
in 60 years.. including all the wars, I don't have to tell you anything about them.[/QUOTE]
Wow, pretentious much? I'm a outspoken Jew, and that embarrassed even me.
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13636886]Oh and [B]it's a fact[/B], if the Palestinians really did live here ever since we "LEFT" then they had so much time to do so much for the land in Israel, but they didn't, and ever since Jews 'came back' they changed the face of Israel, many settlements were built, many houses, farms, even Jews from Russia who had no knowledge in farming, became expert farmers no matter the difficulties caused by weather and quality of the land, and the riots of the Palestinians, the Jews even had enough time to assist Britain in world war 2, no matter their efficiency in the field. Then Israel was established and within 60 years Israel became so advanced, a strong army, a beautiful country.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IuHgBQcbKs[/url] - you can turn off the volume if it hurts your ears but look at the pics.
and check this [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5tDDkvXSI8[/url]
in 60 years.. including all the wars, I don't have to tell you anything about them.[/QUOTE]
dude im on your side in this stupid no-reason war... but your just hiding behind the wrong reasons for participating in it.
just look at your own avatar... remind you of any extremist christians from USA or any muslims who says that killing is the best thing you can do in the world, especially if your body is destroyed while doing it?
GET A GRIP!!! teenage punk ass brainwashed know-nothing-at-all get a religion that focuses on creating instead of destroying and get a social circle who focuses on good times instead of pointless hating.
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[QUOTE=Bomimo;13637108]dude im on your side in this stupid no-reason war... but your just hiding behind the wrong reasons for participating in it.
just look at your own avatar... remind you of any extremist christians from USA or any muslims who says that killing is the best thing you can do in the world, especially if your body is destroyed while doing it?
GET A GRIP!!! teenage punk ass brainwashed know-nothing-at-all get a religion that focuses on creating instead of destroying and get a social circle who focuses on good times instead of pointless hating.
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Oh shit, for real I didn't understand what you were trying to say, when you come back please repeat that.
[QUOTE=Conscript;13637058]palestine was never independent
nor were they supported by the #1 super power in the world[/QUOTE]
never independent ? I don't understand
Nor where the Jews before Israel was established, they helped themselves with the help of them selves.
[QUOTE=thisispain;13637106]Wow, pretentious much? I'm a outspoken Jew, and that embarrassed even me.[/QUOTE]
Oh my gosh! Why are you telling me this? I didn't ask you, nor did I direct what I said at you!
[QUOTE=Fred;13636392]Someone please permaban the racist.
[highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Trolling, backseat moderation, I Warned you." - GunFox))[/highlight][/QUOTE]
I don't want to tease, but I've been patiently waiting for that.
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13637233]Oh my gosh! Why are you telling me this? I didn't ask you, nor did I direct what I said at you![/QUOTE]
Because...
Ehm...
To be honest, I don't know why I say shit 95% of the time.
[QUOTE=thisispain;13637247]Because...
Ehm...
To be honest, I don't know why I say shit 95% of the time.[/QUOTE]
LOL, ok. Haha
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13636493]Lol, first of all, get updated, Kadima's at the top so you can relax now if you're so obsessed with the Arab's safety, and secondly, what holocaust? do you really think that facist has the power to do any of that? he's a fucking dumb ass and even my friends who say it would be better having Israel with out Arabs in it don't choose him because he doesn't know shit about being a prime minister, he fucking lives in some lame movie.
And you don't understand, bro. We came and conquered, nobody makes them stay, the gazans can leave if they ask to, but no country wants them, so, we're kind of stuck with them, understand?
But let me ask you a question - why is it that the arabs in the west bank prosper, while the gazans are just being fucked? WELL, simply because gaza is obssesed with destroying Israel and the arabs in the west bank have forgotten all about the Jewish\Arabic conflict and live their lives, they can vote, they shop, work, go to parties and live good lives, unlike gaza who just attack us.
Once hamas puts their guns down, the war ends - Once Israel puts their guns down, Israel ends. Simple as that, if you check carefully, you'll see they started attacking Israel, we just respond, if it's strongly, well, they should learn from the past mistakes and not attack again, unless they want another war. Israel's chasing peace and if hamas doesn't stop with their bullshit, it's their problem, if you have some awesome solution nobody heard of then tell us now.
I remind you, look at the arabs in the west bank, they prosper and they don't attack Israel - unlike gaza.[/QUOTE]
This man speaks only the truth. Israel is not fighting to gain anything, they're fighting for their lives. They're surrounded by countries who hate them, countries that openly support terrorism. Rocket attacks on Israel are a common occurrence. Israel has absolutely no choice but to continue fighting or to let themselves be killed.
And what's this [I]Palestinian Genocide[/I] shit I'm seeing? Do you not understand how reserved Israel has been? Israel could conquer the entire region inside of a month if it needed to (which, unfortunately, may become the case).
You seriously don't seem to have any idea of how much more complicated the situation is. Yesterday, I was at a seminar with a Middle East expert with a PhD at Fafo, and according to his research, the growth of the strong pan-Islamism and extremism through the Muslim Brotherhood (from which Hamas has direct roots), has been [I]heavily[/I] if not [I]primarily[/I] fuelled through the dominance of western powers, their failed promises and their destructive meddling in the region. See for instance this map of U.S. military bases in the Middle East:
[img]http://thehistorybehindthenews.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/iran_surrounded_cut_out.jpg[/img]
How do you think Europeans or Americans would think if Muslim states had a sickly huge military power, were severely anti-western and had military bases in and around the entirety of Europe and/or USA?
So Arabs are understandably angry. While the rocket attacks do no good, it's what little power the Palestinians have left to fight off a force which has unarguably been seizing more and more of their land, worsening their conditions considerably. You can't honestly say that Israel's disproportionate air raids should calm them down, when half the casualties are children, many of whom are in hospitals.
There's a reason to why Israel (and the US) refuse to ratify several international regulations for warfare and human rights.
And now, with Israel shifting to the right, with sick extremist parties like Israel Beiteinu (which wants to do ethnic cleansing of Arabs and take over the entire area by force) becoming the 3rd largest party, the situation will only worsen. Even if Israeli policy becomes less aggressive and they decide to retract the hundreds of thousands of illegal settlers that fuck everything up in the West Bank, there'd be an uproar and possibly even a civil war in Israel.
[QUOTE=KG_1;13859182]My bet is Iran is going to be invaded by us next.[/QUOTE]
I'm willing to put money on a counter-bet that you don't know what you're talking about.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;13857298]Kinda late news don't you think?[/QUOTE]
Do you believe in evolution? Geez Darwin died over a hundred years ago, just let it go.
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