• Israel Thread [STOP MAKING NEW ONES]
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[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]Better analogy. I walk into your house and kill your kid. You kill everyone on my entire block. Bam. And if you think that Israel is doing their best not to hurt Palestinian civilians then you have something jammed in your brain. [b]Edit:[/b] I'll repost this list of UN resolutions for you to see[/QUOTE] I never said that Israel is trying not to kill civillians, and it's wrong, but that doesn't mean it should pull back and let the extremists gear up again, they should be more "carefull", but they shouldn't retreat, or else we will have the same situation next year. Oh well, if it was for the UN Israel would sit there and wait under the missiles while the UN tries in vain to stop Hamas (wich he won't, no matter what the UN says). Anyways Israel is doing the right thing by protecting itself, but in the wrong way, so it isn't innocent, but neither is Palestine.
[QUOTE=Endzone]Awesome, the invariable death of thousands of innocents! Yaaay![/QUOTE] WHAT FUCKING ABOUT THE THOUSANDS OF ISRAELIS THAT DIE FROM FUCKING HAMAS'S ROCKETS? DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT, DID YA? SERIOUSLY, THEY SHOOT ROCKETS AT US ON A DAILY MATTER AND COUNTRIES EXPECT US TO JUST BE QUIET AND WATCH OUR CITIZENS DIE.
[QUOTE=acds]I never said that Israel is trying not to kill civillians, and it's wrong, but that doesn't mean it should pull back and let the extremists gear up again, they should be more "carefull", but they shouldn't retreat, or else we will have the same situation next year. Oh well, if it was for the UN Israel would sit there and wait under the missiles while the UN tries in vain to stop Hamas (wich he won't, no matter what the UN says). Anyways Israel is doing the right thing by protecting itself, but in the wrong way, so it isn't innocent, but neither is Palestine.[/QUOTE] Organizations like hamas wouldn't even exist if Israel didn't go out of their way to make Palestinian life hell. Israel is [b]not[/b] doing the right think by any means by further propagating resent towards themselves by commiting [b]genocide[/b] and stop saying "neither is palestine", no fucking shit hamas isn't innocent, but the citizens are.
It is sad to see this. The Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas said to Hamas that "please, don't break the truce". But of course they have to go and fuck things up and now the civilians will suffer.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]Organizations like hamas wouldn't even exist if Israel didn't go out of their way to make Palestinian life hell. Israel is [b]not[/b] doing the right think by any means by further propagating resent towards themselves by commiting [b]genocide[/b] and stop saying "neither is palestine", no fucking shit hamas isn't innocent, but the citizens are.[/QUOTE] Organizations like Hamas exist because arabs are pissed off at Israel and jews because they "took" their land to create Israel. About being innocent, well Palestinian civillians are innocent, but so are Israeli civillians, anyways lets stop this arguing since Hamas (and some Palestinians) aren't innocent, but neither is the Israeli government.
[QUOTE=acds]Organizations like Hamas exist because arabs are pissed of at Israel and jews because they "took" their land to create Israel. About being innocent, well Palestinian civillians are innocent, but so are Israeli civillians, anyways lets stop this arguing since Hamas (and some Palestinians) aren't innocent, but neither is the Israeli government.[/QUOTE] But what doesn't make sense is why Israel is punishing a legitimate government and innocent civilians because of the actions of a powerful terrorist organization. It makes [b]no[/b] sense. Also, where do you think all those palestinians went when the Israelis stole their homeland?
UN, you got to condemn this action! Write up few lines, and say that this is very bad, on public tv! That's sure to keep the Israel down! [b]Edit:[/b] [QUOTE=lolwutdude]Civillians aren't fucking with Israeli, last time I heard, it was Extremists who caused it, and now Hamas Militants are defending their people. It's like saying, if Muslim Extremists bombed one of our military vehicles, we should go ahead and bomb whatever town/city they're from.[/QUOTE] Isn't that a bit what you did?
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]Better analogy. I walk into your house and kill your kid. You kill everyone on my entire block. Bam.[/QUOTE] It's more like; I walk into your house and kill your kid. You manage to kill everyone on my entire block because I use them as meat shields. Bam.
[QUOTE=Jomali]It's more like; I walk into your house and kill your kid. You manage to kill everyone on my entire block because I use them as meat shields. Bam.[/QUOTE] And that makes it okay to do! And once again I'd like to reiterate the fact that Israel makes no effort to avoid civilian casualties. And do is seriously have to quote this again... [img]http://djiin.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/dailymail_humanshield.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]Okay, this is exactly my point, but what doesn't make sense is why Israel is punishing a legitimate government and innocent civilians because of the actions of a powerful terrorist organization. It makes [b]no[/b] sense. Also, where do you think all those palestinians went when the Israelis stole their homeland?[/QUOTE] No, it doesn't make sense, it's just wrong, but i guess it's because of the anger, Israel hates the neighbouring countries just like they hate Israel, and even if the other countries "started" it all it's not a good motivation. Still, they are humans so even if it is wrong it's understandable, but they should really show that they are different from their "enemies" and act better in war. Well, tough it's normal to be pissed of at somebody stealing your homeland this surely isn't the answer.
[QUOTE=acds]No, it doesn't make sense, it's just wrong, but i guess it's because of the anger, Israel hates the neighbouring countries just like they hate Israel, and even if the other countries "started" it all it's not a good motivation. Still, they are humans so even if it is wrong it's understandable, but they should really show that they are different from their "enemies" and act better in war. Well, tough it's normal to be pissed of at somebody stealing your homeland this surely isn't the answer.[/QUOTE] But the [highlight]actual ruling government and the actual citizens of Palestine are pretty much the only ones actually getting hurt by this.[/highlight] Israel is pretty much punishing bystanders for something a criminal did. They are a fucking terrorist organization.
I'm stuck between who I support here. Palenstine started this shit by being a bunch of cunts and attacking Israel, I think this is Israel's way of saying "If you fuck with us, you're gonna need a tube of soothing cream by the time we finish with you assholes" I think Israel is going about it the wrong way killing so many civilians, but this is war, the only ones who are right are the ones with the bigger guns I'm afraid. Not to mention pretty much everyone in the Middle East hates Israel. One word to summarize this entire mess, religion :argh:
[QUOTE=Titan!] One word to summarize this entire mess, [b]land[/b] :argh:[/QUOTE] Fixed
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]Fixed[/QUOTE] True. I'll double-fix. Land and Religion.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]And that makes it okay to do! And once again I'd like to reiterate the fact that Israel makes no effort to avoid civilian casualties. And do is seriously have to quote this again... [img]http://djiin.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/dailymail_humanshield.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Kid deserves it if he was throwing stones at them with his friends. What if a group of kids threw stones at your car.
[QUOTE=CubeManv2]Kid deserves it if he was throwing stones at them with his friends. What if a group of kids threw stones at your car.[/QUOTE] I'd tie him to it? Use your brain please. Or better yet, read the first and second page of the airstrike thread so I don't have to spend another hour trying to explain why you're insane if you think that's acceptable.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]I'd tie him to it? Use your brain please. Or better yet, read the first and second page of the airstrike thread so I don't have to spend another hour trying to explain why you're insane if you think that's acceptable.[/QUOTE] Fuck that i would kill the bastard
[QUOTE=CubeManv2]Fuck that i would kill the bastard[/QUOTE] Well then I hope you never get access to a leadership position because you're clearly wrong in the head.
Yeah i'm wrong in the head for punishing someone for doing something wrong. I'm just going to throw stones at cars and guess what if the police do something bad they are wrong in the head!
I don't know, something about how the Palestinians were [b]kicked out of their homes and pushed into poor conditions and that's what those demonstrations and protests are about[/b] makes me think you have no clue what you're pissing out of your mouth. Read the end of the article, he was arrested and beaten for being mad that he was forced out of his home, he's a fucking kid. Learn to use that thing behind your skull.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]I don't know, something about how the Palestinians were [b]kicked out of their homes and pushed into poor conditions and that's what those demonstrations and protests are about[/b] makes me think you have no clue what you're pissing out of your mouth. Read the end of the article, he was arrested and beaten for being mad that he was forced out of his home, he's a fucking kid. Learn to use that thing behind your skull.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure being mad had nothing to do with it, somehow I think he was arrested and beaten for the whole "throwing stones at soldiers" bit. Demonstrations and protests are fine, it's the fuckers who use violence who are going to end up with the butt of a gun or someone's fist in their face. Pull your head out of the "poh-lease are bad, k?" book and at least make an effort to fake logical thinking.
[QUOTE=Jomali]it's the fuckers who use violence who are going to end up with the butt of a gun or someone's fist in their face[/QUOTE] Like Israel? And I cannot talk to you if you honestly think being mad had nothing to do with it. Seriously, if you actually think that then this is the last post I am making to you.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]Like Israel? And I cannot talk to you if you honestly think being mad had nothing to do with it. Seriously, if you actually think that then this is the last post I am making to you.[/QUOTE] He wasn't arrested and beaten for being angry, he was arrested and beaten for throwing stones. He could've been doing it with a smile on his face, wouldn't have stopped the inevitable ass kicking and stoning at the hands of his own people. But that's a good tactic you used, pulling the "I'm not going to respond to you" so you don't actually have to make a valid point.
In one ear and out the other. The whole thing people miss is his side of the story, the fact that his people's land was stolen from him and now he lives in poverty while his people get killed by Israeli missiles would probably put someone on the brink of anger that just might make them do some SO CRAZY as throwing rocks at fully armored MPs with kevlar helmets and a blast door behind them. So Scary! (none of your points actually make sense so we're equal)
Maybe if we wasn't so hypocritical and also supplied the Palestinians with modern equipment and training they won't have to relay on home made, unguided ineffective missiles. So they can hit Israeli military targets.
[QUOTE=acds]And then these civillians (of wich few wouldn't want to kill every last Israeli) protest by burning Israeli flags, wow that's really how to show you are innocent.[/QUOTE] but civillians are innoc- wait they burned israeli flags? oh, well that definitely changes everything, every last one of them deserves to die as painfully as possible
So much war. I'm just glad it hasn't really gotten [b]into[/b] United States. Then again, we're practically at a war with ourselves. This world disgusts me.
[QUOTE=acds]You can't blame Israel, afterall they are doing what they can to defend themselves. And it's funny how we say that Israel should not strike back, try having a neighbouring country fire missiles against the U.S. or EU and see what would happen. And then these civillians (of wich few wouldn't want to kill every last Israeli) protest by burning Israeli flags, wow that's really how to show you are innocent.[/QUOTE] 360 to 2 is a good trade?How about letting supplies into Gaza so they don't starve?That's the main reason HAMAS are fucking pissed and are rising in popular support.
Israel is the main cause of all of the problems in the middle-east, and now they want to add more fuel to the fire. Our chances of peace in the middle-east have just drifted a bit farther away, thanks again Israel.
killing an Israeli is a crime of the highest dishonor in the middle east or something
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