• Israel Thread [STOP MAKING NEW ONES]
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[QUOTE=TH89]Except A) it doesn't really and B) why would anyone need to Photoshop a picture of an air strike that actually happened and C) it's from the AP[/QUOTE] B) To make it more dramatic. Many pictures are photoshopped to add in more smoke and stuff.
[QUOTE=psychokilled]Jesus Christ![/QUOTE] it don't think he could save you he got crucified too
[QUOTE=mr-kaki]WHAT FUCKING ABOUT THE THOUSANDS OF ISRAELIS THAT DIE FROM FUCKING HAMAS'S ROCKETS? DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT, DID YA? SERIOUSLY, THEY SHOOT ROCKETS AT US ON A DAILY MATTER AND COUNTRIES EXPECT US TO JUST BE QUIET AND WATCH OUR CITIZENS DIE.[/QUOTE] You know how many Israeli's have died in the past 6 months from rocket attacks? At least 15.
This calls for a new crusade!
Uh, the Crusades have been going since '03, mate. They may have been hidden under the charades of the War on Terror, but they're still Crusades.
[QUOTE=Conscript]Just when I thought no one could a dumber post in this thread[/QUOTE] The Middle East is always picking fights. If it wasn't for those damn extremists during 9/11, then we wouldn't have needed military retaliation.
Hey r3conmaster, you know that Israel was founded and funded by the western states so that the Jews living in their borders would go somewhere else right? And during WW2 the British promised independence and freedom to Palestinians so that they would cooperate, but then turned the land over to the state of Israel... Also Israel has anti-semitism too. Wasn't there a thread some time ago about some kids who acted anti-semitic and beat up people in Israel (they were Jewish of course)?
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]And that makes it okay to do! And once again I'd like to reiterate the fact that Israel makes no effort to avoid civilian casualties. And do is seriously have to quote this again... [img]http://djiin.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/dailymail_humanshield.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Haha, you took the Daily Mail seriously.
Not seeing any reason why not to.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]Not seeing any reason why not to.[/QUOTE] They are a tabloid and blow everything out of proportion. Not to mention they are often the subject of jokes on some shows.
Even if that [i]was[/i] true, there's hundreds of different daily mails.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]Even if that [i]was[/i] true, there's a daily mail for almost every nation.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to say. The British newspaper called the Daily Mail that you quoted in that picture as fact is a crappy newspaper that blows everything out of proportion.
I'm pretty sure if you were going to say the war on terror wasn't about terror, it'd be more for economics than for christianity mate.
1. This is what I meant. [url]http://www.daily-mail.co.zm/[/url] [url]http://www.nevadadailymail.com/[/url] [url]http://www.thedailymail.net/[/url] [url]http://dailymailnews.com/[/url] 2. I would need more proof than your word.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]1. This is what I meant. [url]http://www.daily-mail.co.zm/[/url] [url]http://www.nevadadailymail.com/[/url] [url]http://www.thedailymail.net/[/url] [url]http://dailymailnews.com/[/url] 2. I would need more proof than your word.[/QUOTE] Oh okay, I wasn't sure. And proof of what? That people say it's crap?
Proof that the event that happened in that picture was actually forged by the daily news as a secret plot to stirr up israeli-palestinian violence and in no way true. [b]Edit:[/b] Oh by the way. If this helps at all... [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/jan/02/israel1[/url] [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/mar/09/israel[/url] [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3650791.stm[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shields#Gaza_and_the_West_Bank[/url] [url]http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0309/p99s01-duts.html[/url] [url]http://www.btselem.org/english/Human_Shields/20060720_Human_Shields_in_Beit_Hanun.asp[/url]
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]Proof that the event that happened in that picture was actually forged by the daily news as a secret plot to stirr up israeli-palestinian violence and in no way true. [b]Edit:[/b] Oh by the way. If this helps at all... [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/jan/02/israel1[/url] [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/mar/09/israel[/url] [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3650791.stm[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shields#Gaza_and_the_West_Bank[/url] [url]http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0309/p99s01-duts.html[/url] [url]http://www.btselem.org/english/Human_Shields/20060720_Human_Shields_in_Beit_Hanun.asp[/url][/QUOTE] I never said it was forged. I was just saying the Daily Mail is crap. Geez man, where the hell did you get that crap?
I'm just pointing out that even if it was crap it's still a well documented event.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]I'm just pointing out that even if it was crap it's still a well documented event.[/QUOTE] Oh well, I'll just let the thread get back on track. Although it is nice to see some other sources like the BBC.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]Even if that [i]was[/i] true, there's hundreds of different daily mails.[/QUOTE] A quick search of the journalist's name reveals he worked for the UK Daily Mail. A paper known, a resented nationwide, for it's bias and exaggeration. Take anything you read from them with a pinch of salt.
We resolved this already with 6 more sources. Sorry :(
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]I'm pretty sure if you were going to say the war on terror wasn't about terror, it'd be more for economics than for christianity mate.[/QUOTE] Well. It's either about popularity, money, indifference, a more peaceful planet, or skewed opinions.
[QUOTE=Bad)-(and]A quick search of the journalist's name reveals he worked for the UK Daily Mail. A paper known, a resented nationwide, for it's bias and exaggeration. Take anything you read from them with a pinch of salt.[/QUOTE] Indeed it is.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]Civilians aren't the enemy mate.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure that these people care at these people care at this point.
[QUOTE=Chippays]Maybe because they're invading and occupying land that's been inhabited by a separate people for over a thousand years. And you're right, Jews are not welcome in a lot of places. However as I said, the vast majority of First world Countries (notably America, which gets more Jewish immigrants than Israel as per the last listing I checked.) In addition, the fact that some countries aren't very accepting of Jews is not an excuse to conquer land held by another people, nor is it an excuse to bulldoze villages and replace Palestinian communities with Jewish settlers. And sorry, a comedy film doesn't mean that Jews aren't welcome in America, it simply means that they're subject to being made fun of in the same way the French, the Germans, the Japanese, and the Chinese have been for years.[/QUOTE] The Jews weren't even welcome in America after WWII. No one wanted them, so the UN cut them a sliver of land out of a place where their people had always inhabited thinking that the Arabs would just kill off the Jews and the problem would be solved. The Jews had always been in Israel and there's no way around that. The Palestinians weren't made into second-class citizens, and if anyone views them as "second-class" it's their Arab neighbors. They've become cannon-fodder for their Anti-Israeli campaign. If any of you can actually tell me that Israel's fighting in response to missiles being launched at their civilians is wrong then something is wrong with you. Saying that Israel is wrong for killing civilians isn't a valid point because there's no way to shoot around them when the extremists are hiding behind their own women and children.
Oh those silly Israelians, what they gonna do next? [img]http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8206/tr040607el4.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=!LORD M!]Oh those silly Israelians, what they gonna do next? [img]http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8206/tr040607el4.gif[/img][/QUOTE] That is got to be the most terrible picture ever to explain a situation.
[QUOTE=Western_Open]That is got to be the most terrible picture ever to explain a situation.[/QUOTE] Huh? [b]Edit:[/b] [QUOTE=skullhead122]The Jews weren't even welcome in America after WWII. No one wanted them, so the UN cut them a sliver of land out of a place where their people had always inhabited thinking that the Arabs would just kill off the Jews and the problem would be solved. The Jews had always been in Israel and there's no way around that. The Palestinians weren't made into second-class citizens, and if anyone views them as "second-class" it's their Arab neighbors. They've become cannon-fodder for their Anti-Israeli campaign. If any of you can actually tell me that Israel's fighting in response to missiles being launched at their civilians is wrong then something is wrong with you. Saying that Israel is wrong for killing civilians isn't a valid point because there's no way to shoot around them when the extremists are hiding behind their own women and children.[/QUOTE] Nah, I'm pretty sure it's you with the problem. Spare me the bullshit that Israel is trying their hardest to avoid civilians casualties, And if this helps even the playing field regarding "hiding behind women and children" [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/jan/02/israel1[/url] [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/mar/09/israel[/url] [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3650791.stm[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shields#Gaza_and_the_West_Bank[/url] [url]http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0309/p99s01-duts.html[/url] [url]http://www.btselem.org/english/Human_Shields/20060720_Human_Shields_in_Beit_Hanun.asp[/url]
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081231/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iran_israel_palestinians[/url] [quote]TEHRAN, Iran – Hard-line Iranian student groups have asked the government to authorize volunteers to go carry out suicide bombings in Israel in response to the Israeli assault on the Gaza Strip. The government of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had not responded to the call by Wednesday. Five hard-line student groups and a conservative clerical group launched a registration drive on Monday, seeking volunteers to carry out suicide attacks against Israel. In an open letter to Ahmadinjead, the students said "volunteer student suicide groups ... are determined to go to Gaza. You are expected to issue orders to the relevant authorities in order to pave the way for such action." A copy of the letter was made available to The Associated Press on Wednesday. Volunteer suicide groups have made similar requests in the past and the government never responded to their calls. Some hard-liners have claimed previously they succeeded in secretly sending bombers to Israel, but their claims have never been verified, and there has not been any sign of Iranians carrying out suicide attacks in Israel — raising the likelihood the groups' activities are mainly for propaganda purposes[/quote] Crazy much?
Sounds just like sabre rattling. I doubt Iran can successfully send them into Israel, especially at a time like this.
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