• Israel Thread [STOP MAKING NEW ONES]
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[QUOTE=Dame]If America stops supporting Israel, Israel loses it's military.[/QUOTE] Naah, might worser, but it would still exists.
Still can't find a verified source on this. Especially since Israel is still stopping international journalists from entering. Basically so they have monopoly on the media. But they failed to realise the BBC already has offices in Gaza. You're pretty crap at starting legit news threads anyway Western_Open =/
[QUOTE=NoDachi]Still can't find a verified source on this. Especially since Israel is still stopping international journalists from entering. Basically so they have monopoly on the media. But they failed to realise the BBC already has offices in Gaza. You're pretty crap at starting legit news threads anyway Western_Open =/[/QUOTE] You think all the news I post is lies even though it isn't my news?
Well lack of links lends suspicion. Maybe I'm just dense, but I don't see you citing a trustworthy source anywhere.
The lack of reputable sources and multiple reports also lends suspicion and i don't tend to trust Zionists like yourself.
[QUOTE=Western_Open]You think all the news I post is lies even though it isn't my news?[/QUOTE] you could start arguing, or you could, you know, post a link at least
[QUOTE=Fred]and i don't tend to trust Zionists like yourself.[/QUOTE] Yeah, don't trust non-Jewish Zionists. They seem all too eager to get us into Israel.
[QUOTE=thisispain]Yeah, don't trust non-Jewish Zionists. They seem all too eager to get us into Israel.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=JoeBiden]I'm a Zionist, you don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAZmO80dLfE[/media] [img]http://www.love-tub.net/forum/images/smilies/shrug.png[/img] Oups?
[QUOTE=Western_Open]You think all the news I post is lies even though it isn't my news?[/QUOTE] You do seem to go with quantity of threads, over quality.
And even now people try to neglect the fact that Israel is actually doing a neccessary thing...
[QUOTE=acds]And even now people try to neglect the fact that Israel is actually doing a good thing...[/QUOTE] :downs: yeah...
[QUOTE=acds]And even now people try to neglect the fact that Israel is actually doing a good thing...[/QUOTE] Yeah man kill everything nah it's justified cause I'm a jew see we must ignore the things learned from the holocaust
[QUOTE=acds]And even now people try to neglect the fact that Israel is actually doing a good thing...[/QUOTE] Doing what's necessary, maybe, effective, potentially, efficient, certainly, but "good"? Does your moral compass orient south, or what?
the IDF is not an effective or efficient fighting force in this situation. They're historically famous for not being able to crush militancy.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot]Doing what's necessary, maybe, effective, potentially, efficient, certainly, but "good"? Does your moral compass orient south, or what?[/QUOTE] Yeah, my fault choosing the wrong words, neccessary, not good (i don't think there has ever been a "good" war).
In WW2 there was massmurder against the Jews, now they're doing the exact same thing. Gaza is a region with many peoples living, Israel is not allowing journalists to get in there to report so they can show the world what the Israelis are doing in Gaza. I'm so mad right now, the world is watching while the Israelis are performing massmurder against the Palestinians. The world wanted that there should be democratic votes in Gaza, the peoples chose Hamas and now the Israelis are try to get rid of them? How can anyone think that the Israelis are doing a good thing? Over 2300 wounded and the death rate is hitting 500 soon (where the majority are the civilians. No, the Palestinians in Gaza can't escape, the Israelis have assured to lock them up as caged animals. They can't run into Israel to take cover nor can they take cover in Egypt. Israel is NOT allowing FN supplies into Gaza, the civilians are dying! Maybe I'm just dreaming? Why is not the world doing anything to stop the next holocaust being done right now!?!? This tactic will fail, the civilians will like Hamas more as their families and friends getting bombed. Maybe that's what the Israelis want, so they can come back after a year or so to literally "clean" out the area for "infidels" and expand their area...
[QUOTE=NoDachi]You do seem to go with quantity of threads, over quality.[/QUOTE] Like what Trekkie did. Remember him and his alt?
[QUOTE=SeamanStains]Government officals make easy targets it seems.[/QUOTE] It's cause their idiots and try to stand their ground even when the Israelis warn the areas that are going to be bombed. [b]Edit:[/b] Also stop using Fox news. [b]Edit:[/b] There's got to be a more reliable source with the same information.
[QUOTE=Endzone]Well no fucking surprise. I'm sure if you were to toss a grenade into a room full of people you're sure to kill a criminal sooner or later. [b]Edit:[/b] They're assholes. Real bad asses go in on foot armed with axes. Bombs are not bad ass; except for nukes, but the sheer stupidity required to actually use one would sap any coolness you might have gained by doing so.[/QUOTE] I'm an asshole :c00l:
Indeed it is hard to see the link in the quote.
Haha you just edited that in you tool. Plus that's an absolutely terrible source. Like usual you fail to distinguish between truth and bollocks.
I don't understand why everyone's so 'anti' Israel. Let's not forget about the countless wars and war-crimes waged and committed by the US.
Because it's topical. Imagine if the internet and this forum existed during the Vietnam War... yeah you get the picture.
Wooo, go Israel show those fucks whats up. :patriot::rolleye:
Fun fact, some random Palestinian guy added me on MSN and started saying "you american monkeys", "look what you did to palestine", "killin inocent people", "you don't like muslims do you" I mean it makes no sense. His people attack Israel, they attack back, and now they start to blame us for their troubles? :hellnaw:
[QUOTE=Western_Open]Indeed it is hard to see the link in the quote.[/QUOTE] 6 Hours Ago Edited By Western_Open 21 Minutes Ago You're dumb as a post.
[QUOTE=NoDachi]Haha you just edited that in you tool.[/QUOTE] ~anti-semiTE~
This happened in a previous thread: [quote] Originally Posted by GunFox: Something I think a lot of people are missing here is that Hamas isn't really like a lot of terrorist organizations. They aren't a terrorist organization in the traditional sense. They are more like a rebel group that is HEAVILY funded by outside sources. So you have these rebel forces living in your country and attacking your people with all the zealousness and craziness of terrorists with the funding, backing, and frequently training, of a serious military force. SO how do you all propose that Israel deals with this threat? Just rolls over and let them have their way? THEY ARE CRAZY. You don't want them in government. Israel chose to bomb civilian sectors rather than keep them inside their government. They chose to go to WAR rather than keep them inside the government. With good reason. Again, Hamas are crazy religious zealots. They roll with the old laws. Subjugation of women, stoning rape victims to death, etc etc. So what? You want those crazy fuckers to gain power over the Israelis? Israelis don't even have the death penalty. If people would stop attacking their civilians all day long every day, Israel wouldn't have to do shit like this. I mean look at Israel on the map: [url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tionIsrael.svg[/url] Can you imagine a less strategically defensible position? They are constantly exposed to the country being bisected in two. With their capital sitting right on the edge of their territory. They are sitting there with their backs to the proverbial wall (THE FUCKING OCEAN) and attempting desperately to defend what is theirs from an extremist group which is willing to do anything to push its crazy agenda. I mean fuck, the Israelis have to design public buildings and street systems with CAR BOMBS IN MIND. The entire country is put together in an effort to reduce damage caused by suicide bombers. They have gone to great lengths to maintain peace and attempt to overcome the bombings. Everyone around them hates them with a passion, in spite of the fact that they would like nothing more than to be simply left alone. So basically what this boils down to is the fact that everyone who isn't an Israeli is an enemy combatant or supports them. So Israel has been backed into a corner and they are exercising their only real options left, which is to flex the muscle that they have, which their enemy does not: Direct confrontation. Keep in mind that these so called "terrorist attacks" against Israel aren't actually terrorist attacks. They are simply attacks by what is effectively a rival enemy military that lacks the ability to fight directly. Israel however cannot fight a guerrilla war because they lack sufficient numbers of crazy people to fuel such a fighting style. So they fight back in their own fashion with open warfare. Hamas has been pushing Israel towards this sort of thing for years and years now, and now they hide behind civilians and attempt to point the finger at Israel and call them the bad guy. Sorry Hamas, you are still using your own supporters as meat shields. You knew damn well that Israel was eventually going to be left with one option, and in reality this is exactly what you were going for all along. Hamas can't win a military campaign, but they can try to win a PR campaign by getting Israel to kill civilians. But in truth the blood isn't on Israeli hands, it is on the hands of Hamas.[/quote] So...no mention of the blockade on Gaza, or how after the Israelis immediately pulled out of Gaza they shove thousands more ILLEGAL settlers in the West Bank. No mention of how Israel uses its illegal settlers as meat shields and saying that the settlements, which divide up Palestinian land along with "Israeli only roads" and the APARTHEID wall (Israel admittedly calls it the SEPARATION wall) just cannot be removed because it is "too late". Well of course it is too late, these fuckers have been building them and breaking international law since 1967. Israel was begging the Palestinians to democratically elect someone to represent them, Hamas just won, and unsurprisingly given that the Palestinians are treated like shit and as inferiors by the Israeli Army and Israeli society (Look up Hebron dumbass) I mean Arab Jews have a bad time, you think Palestinians are going to have it easy? /thread
[QUOTE=Uber|nooB]~anti-semiTE~[/QUOTE] [img]http://codshit.com/marmite.gif[/img] Love it. Hate it.
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