• Israel Thread [STOP MAKING NEW ONES]
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Sorry, you're just wrong... And what the fuck is you're point? You're pointing out that there's an israeli controlled military zone. I find you're lack of knowledge amusing.
[QUOTE=SeamanStains]Instead of dropping bombs on an entire school full of children how about they evacuate the towns that are being shelled instead. I'm sure if you actually asked the inhabitants. "What would you prefer? The inconvenience of having to leave your home for afew days so you are safe, or would you like the convenience of staying at your home under sporadic rocket fire, at the cost of afew douzen Palestinian children?" [b]Edit:[/b] Israel needs to give back some land, including the West Bank. Have the boarders to Gaza and the West Bank touching for just enough to drop a giant 4 way UN checkpoint between the 2 areas of Palestine and the 2 areas of Israel. Then maybe, eventually some peace can be restored to the region and maybe the resentment will decrease over time.[/QUOTE] Wow, a major checkpoint and only ground route between the two parts of Israel and Palestine. THAT definitely won't be a target for suicide bombings. Also last I heard, Egypt was letting people in, and Hamas wasn't letting them out. As Gunfox said, the school isn't in session 24/7, you fire missiles from your F16s at it when there are no children nearby.
The school was used as a refugee shelter for hells sake. Doesn't anyone read? Which what most countries convert them into in times of national emergency.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]If you think GunFox understands warfare then you need to be slapped. My brother who has served 2 tours of duty in Iraq actually got mad after reading his comments because they have no logical backing at all.[/QUOTE] Your brother seems like a pretty cool guy. Except he isn't an expert on all warfare ever. Hamas isn't playing by the rules, why should Israel?
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]Sorry, you're just wrong... And what the fuck is you're point? You're pointing out that there's an israeli controlled military zone.[/QUOTE] It's not. Why I had it in quotes. There are media reports which say they do "control it", but the operations that they commit to in those areas are hardly restrictive. [QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]I find you're lack of knowledge amusing.[/quote] :lol:
[QUOTE=GunFox]Not to quote fallout, but war never changes. The goals are always the same. Make the other side lose. There are rules to battle. Don't shoot medics, don't execute hostages, don't use napalm, don't use biological weapons... But there are no rules to war.[/QUOTE] Not really. War has changed tons, look at World War 1 compared to World War 2. They were fought in completely different ways.
[QUOTE=Karskin]Your brother seems like a pretty cool guy. Except he isn't an expert on all warfare ever. Hamas isn't playing by the rules, why should Israel?[/QUOTE] Maybe because Israel is a modern, affluent, western finances and trained power in the region? I dunno really :downs:
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]Sorry, you're just wrong... And what the fuck is you're point? You're pointing out that there's an israeli controlled military zone. I find you're lack of knowledge amusing.[/QUOTE] Ironic post.
[QUOTE=NoDachi]Maybe because Israel is a modern, affluent, western finances and trained power in the region? I dunno really :downs:[/QUOTE] So? Israel has to say, well we can't hit that ambulance because it has a red cross (or crescent) on it. Hamas says, put a bomb in that ambulance with the red cross at it, Israel won't shoot it then. How the fuck is that fair?
[QUOTE=NoDachi]Maybe because Israel is a modern, affluent, western finances and trained power in the region? I dunno really :downs:[/QUOTE] I believe that the school was definitely an accident. If the pilots had the coordinates for the UN safe houses, they would not have fired, even if they saw HAMAS militants entering the building.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider]Not really. War has changed tons, look at World War 1 compared to World War 2. They were fought in completely different ways.[/QUOTE] Want to know how they both ended? One sided defeated the other.
All of this is going on to just stop Hamas shooting rockets. If they knew what was best for them they'd stop. The Israeli's aren't the ones to blame. Hamas has kidnapped people, killed people, and given Israel a bad name.
[QUOTE=Karskin]Your brother seems like a pretty cool guy. Except he isn't an expert on all warfare ever. Hamas isn't playing by the rules, why should Israel?[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw9cv2RKUTs[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw9cv2RKUTs[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw9cv2RKUTs[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw9cv2RKUTs[/media]
So Israel has the [b]right[/b] to bomb all ambulances? I'll like to see where you'll take this.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw9cv2RKUTs[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw9cv2RKUTs[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw9cv2RKUTs[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw9cv2RKUTs[/media][/QUOTE] A balanced argument according to Perka Avos is one with many points. I respect the youtube you gave, but what other things can prove the point?
[QUOTE=doggunn]It's not. Why I had it in quotes. There are media reports which say they do "control it", but the operations that they commit to in those areas are hardly restrictive. :lol:[/QUOTE] How about instead of playing the ":lol: no your stupid" card, lets use real information. Since you're denying the value of actual pictures posted in this thread.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw9cv2RKUTs[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw9cv2RKUTs[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw9cv2RKUTs[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw9cv2RKUTs[/media][/QUOTE] Your brother sure is old and ugly
[QUOTE=Karskin]Your brother sure is old and ugly[/QUOTE] Hilariously relevant, thanks for not watching it just for a cheap snipe.
[QUOTE=NoDachi]So Israel has the [b]right[/b] to bomb all ambulances? I'll like to see where you'll take this.[/QUOTE] It's a fucking example (of something that Hamas does) I didn't say Israel should blow up ambulances, you just said that, don't put words in my mouth and then act all high and mighty. I'm saying you shouldn't bitch about Israel attacking a school that is harbouring militants that fire rockets because Hamas does the exact same thing. [b]Edit:[/b] [QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]Hilariously relevant, thanks for not watching it just for a cheap snipe.[/QUOTE] It's completely been 8 minutes. I don't see why you posted it in a response to my comment. [b]Edit:[/b] [QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]How about instead of playing the ":lol: no your stupid" card, lets use real information. Since you're denying the value of actual pictures posted in this thread.[/QUOTE] As opposed to your "Nope you're just wrong and retarded" card?
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]How about instead of playing the ":lol: no your stupid" card, lets use real information. Since you're denying the value of actual pictures posted in this thread.[/QUOTE] I said :lol: because all you do is insult others on the forum. I didn't actually intent to make any insult towards you. And the images made no mention of Israeli military controled zones.
[QUOTE=Karskin]It's a fucking example (of something that Hamas does) I didn't say Israel should blow up ambulances, you just said that, don't put words in my mouth and then act all high and mighty. I'm saying you shouldn't bitch about Israel attacking a school that is harbouring militants that fire rockets because Hamas does the exact same thing. [b]Edit:[/b] It's completely been 8 minutes. I don't see why you posted it in a response to my comment. [b]Edit:[/b] As opposed to your "Nope you're just wrong and retarded" card?[/QUOTE] Actually it's only been 7, and when I made that post 2 minutes ago it had only been 5. Nice one! [b]Edit:[/b] [QUOTE=doggunn]I said :lol: because all you do is insult others on the forum. I didn't actually intent to make any insult towards you. And the images made no mention of Israeli military controled zones.[/QUOTE] I was referring to the Isreal Palestine border because I thought your post made no sense.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]Actually it's only been 7, and when I made that post 2 minutes ago it had only been 5. Nice one![/QUOTE] Yeah! Nice still proving my point! As it has not been 8. Which is exactly what I said! Thanks! I guess... Also I finished watching that video, I don't see how that refutes Gunfox's statements at all.
[QUOTE=Karskin]Yeah! Nice still proving my point! As it has not been 8. Which is exactly what I said! Thanks! I guess... Also I finished watching that video, I don't see how that refutes Gunfox's statements at all.[/QUOTE] What? My point was you didn't finish watching the video before making a response that had no relevance, if that isn't clear, then sorry. And if you don't see the relevance to GunFox pointing the blame on palestine for launching rockets and assuming that killing civilians will somehow end the conflict, then again.... I'm sorry as that was the entire point of about 3/4 of the video.
Wait a minute! Do I detect a broken sarcasm meter and lack of comprehension of context? I think I do!
[quote=media] Hey guys! Let's blame Israel for retaliating against a Hamas attack. DO IT FOR THE RATINGS!! [/quote] I'm sure they don't mean to bomb schools, ambulances, hospitals, etc. It's fucking missiles. So obviously, wherever they're bombing, there is going to be collateral damage. But it is necessary if Israel wants to stay around. But it's war. You want to beat your opponent to the point where he CANNOT attack you again. Think about it. Oh, Israel should stop this, Israel should stop that. Hamas didn't. Why should they?
[QUOTE=Karskin]Wait a minute! Do I detect a broken sarcasm meter and lack of comprehension of context? I think I do![/QUOTE] I actually don't think there was any sarcasm in my post. I sense some in your post though :(
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]And if you don't see the relevance to GunFox pointing the blame on palestine for launching rockets and assuming that killing civilians will somehow end the conflict, then again....[/QUOTE] You seem to express the point of view on which only certain Arab nations agree with. Even Egypt and Jordan disagree with you!
Honestly I have never seen "The Real Truth" before. (No pun intended) I am still listening to it right now. It seems like propaganda.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]I actually don't think there was any sarcasm in my post. Do you know how to stay on topic for more than 10 minutes?[/QUOTE] Lack of comprehension indeed! Let me write it out so you can understand since you are apparently bad at reading. You say you brother mad! I say you brother stupid! You post old lady 4 times! I call old lady old! You say I no watch video! Video no time to complete! I use the sarcasm to say you! You don't make understand!
Oh god you guys suck at arguing oh [b]Edit:[/b] My head hurts from reading the "points"
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