• Israel Thread [STOP MAKING NEW ONES]
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[QUOTE=PhortyTwo]War is War. Don't like it? We're all a bunch of Armchair Warlords. What the fuck would we care, as long as we get our news one way or another? Wether it be spoon fed to us, and we take it like it's from Heaven itself, or we actually question what's in the spoon.[/QUOTE] what the fuck are you talking about?
[QUOTE=PhortyTwo]War is War. Don't like it? We're all a bunch of Armchair Warlords. What the fuck would we care, as long as we get our news one way or another? Wether it be spoon fed to us, and we take it like it's from Heaven itself, or we actually question what's in the spoon.[/QUOTE] There's only cold metal in my spoon
[QUOTE=Karskin]His goal was still to defeat Poland Definition of goal: [I]-the state of affairs that a plan is intended to achieve and that (when achieved) terminates behavior intended to achieve it[/I] The state of affairs being Polands defeat The plan being BLITZKRIEG!!! The defeat of Poland terminated the war with Poland Hurf Durf[/QUOTE] [quote=http://history1900s.about.com/library/holocaust/aa090399.htm]Why was Germany allowed to take over both Austria and Czechoslovakia without a fight? The simple reason is that Great Britain and France did not want to repeat the bloodshed of World War I. They believed, wrongly as it turned out, they could avoid another world war by appeasing Hitler with a few concessions (such as Austria and Czechoslovakia). Great Britain and France had not clearly understood that [B]Hitler's [highlight]goal[/highlight] of land acquisition was much, much larger than any one country[/B].[/quote] The goal of the war wasn't to defeat Poland. The goal of the war was land acquisition. State of affairs being land acquisition. The plan being blitzkrieg The defeat of Poland terminated the war with Poland. The defeat of Poland was merely a part of the greater goal which was land acquisition. The goal of Hitler's war was land acquisition. The goals of war are not the same. You ask anyone what the goal of World War 2 was and they'll say Hitler conquest or Allied liberty. You ask anyone what the goal of the Iraq war was and they'll say it was oil or WMDs.
War, war never changes.
So, once they secure gaza, what exactly do they plan on doing?
BURN AND PURGE BURN AND PURGE! Just kidding, I have no idea.
Thread music: [url]http://tinyurl.com/threadmusic[/url] [b]Edit:[/b] [QUOTE=Cloak Raider] You ask anyone what the goal of the Iraq war was and they'll say it was oil or WMDs.[/QUOTE] If that's the case, they're a fucking dumbass.
[QUOTE=PhortyTwo]Thread music: [url]http://tinyurl.com/threadmusic[/url] [b]Edit:[/b] If that's the case, they're a fucking dumbass.[/QUOTE] Yeah most likely.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider]The goal of the war wasn't to defeat Poland. The goal of the war was land acquisition. State of affairs being land acquisition. The plan being blitzkrieg The defeat of Poland terminated the war with Poland. The defeat of Poland was merely a part of the greater goal which was land acquisition. The goal of Hitler's war was land acquisition. The goals of war are not the same. You ask anyone what the goal of World War 2 was and they'll say Hitler conquest or Allied liberty. You ask anyone what the goal of the Iraq war was and they'll say it was oil or WMDs.[/QUOTE] Small goals leading to bigger ones. How's he supposed to take countries past Poland without taking Poland? How's he going to do anything without [B]defeating the opposing side[/B]? The goal of [B]war[/B] is to defeat the opposing side, I don't care what goals Hitler wanted to achieve once he won, then the war part is over, the only goal of [B]war[/B] is to defeat the opposing side.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider] You ask anyone what the goal of the Iraq war was and they'll say it was oil or WMDs.[/QUOTE] The goal was to remove Saddam from power, which was accomplished years ago. The current situation in Iraq does not have a point where we call victory, General Patraeus himself said that victory is an improper word to use. There is no "Iraq War", it's an occupation, or a military engagement if you want to get technical. War was never declared in either Iraq or Afghanistan.
[QUOTE=Karskin]So? Israel has to say, well we can't hit that ambulance because it has a red cross (or crescent) on it. Hamas says, put a bomb in that ambulance with the red cross at it, Israel won't shoot it then. How the fuck is that fair?[/QUOTE] Wow that is retarded. What are you going to do with a bomb in an ambulance? Israel isn't accepting Palestinian wounded so you only place you could drive that ambulance is into Egypt or Jordan. Kind of counterproductive. [highlight]F[/highlight] on your terrorist exam. [b]Edit:[/b] [QUOTE=doggunn]I believe that the school was definitely an accident. If the pilots had the coordinates for the UN safe houses, they would not have fired, even if they saw HAMAS militants entering the building.[/QUOTE] One of the reasons the UN is so pissed is that they gave the GPS coordinates of all of their facilities to Israel several times. The building also has UN flags and emblems everywhere. This is the 3rd school they have bombed, by the way. [b]Edit:[/b] I mean. Fuck. Firing artillery into a refugee camp.
Israel is full of fucking dicks. 4 fucking Israelis die, then they immediately think they can kill 100 times that. What fucking assholes, I hope those bastards do get nuked.
Israel will pause gaza bombardment for three hours every day to let aid and things through: [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7815266.stm[/url] The decision follows an announcement by Israel that it had agreed to open a humanitarian corridor into Gaza to allow in vital supplies.
[QUOTE=SeamanStains]One of the reasons the UN is so pissed is that they gave the GPS coordinates of all of their facilities to Israel several times. The building also has UN flags and emblems everywhere. This is the 3rd school they have bombed, by the way.[/QUOTE] Which would make it the third school used by Hamas. Why isn't the U.N. condemning their use of schools and such as military installations? And if they are, why is anyone surprised when they get bombed? It's not a school if it's full of assholes firing rockets, it's a building full of assholes firing rockets.
How about you stop this argument and ask someone who actually lives in Israel, how he feels?
[QUOTE=drive_the_hive]Hell, I can't understand the people on here who keep bashing Isreal. Just imagine what the USA would do if Cuba decided to launch rockets at Florida. :rolleye:[/QUOTE] he'd go tupac on their asses
[QUOTE=CokeMan44]Israel is full of fucking dicks. 4 fucking Israelis die, then they immediately think they can kill 100 times that. What fucking assholes, I hope those bastards do get nuked.[/QUOTE] Lol, go back to the cave you came from.
[QUOTE=CokeMan44]Israel is full of fucking dicks. 4 fucking Israelis die, then they immediately think they can kill 100 times that. What fucking assholes, I hope those bastards do get nuked.[/QUOTE] I hope you get nuked. I live in Israel and you have got to feel the fear, when you have only 30 second's to run into safe place. Only thing i want to say is that you must be in this stuiation to understand what happands here (i will buy you a ticket if want to feel it). For 8 year, every day, more then 6 times in day you must run to a safe place in fear that any second longer you could DIE. this is why we attacking Hamas and not the innocent civilians. our soldiers send papers 15 minutes before every attack on house or any other target, they even call to there so people could run from there. the only thing we want to destroy is the bombs and "grad's" thet the Hamas is send over us.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot]Which would make it the third school used by Hamas. Why isn't the U.N. condemning their use of schools and such as military installations? And if they are, why is anyone surprised when they get bombed? It's not a school if it's full of assholes firing rockets, it's a building full of assholes firing rockets.[/QUOTE] I saw an interview with a UN official and they said there was definitely hamas activity in the neighbourhood and probably not in the school.
[QUOTE=toxicpiano]Israel will pause gaza bombardment for three hours every day to let aid and things through: [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7815266.stm[/url] The decision follows an announcement by Israel that it had agreed to open a humanitarian corridor into Gaza to allow in vital supplies.[/QUOTE] About motherfucking time, god damn.
[QUOTE=OHaiYo]How about you stop this argument and ask someone who actually lives in Israel, how he feels?[/QUOTE] I'll ask for your opinion as soon as we can get someone on the other side to compare.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot]Which would make it the third school used by Hamas. Why isn't the U.N. condemning their use of schools and such as military installations? And if they are, why is anyone surprised when they get bombed? It's not a school if it's full of assholes firing rockets, it's a building full of assholes firing rockets.[/QUOTE] The UN denies all claims that Hamas has been using their instillations as bases. [quote=BBC]An Israeli attack on a UN-run school killed more than 40 people who were seeking shelter there from the fighting. The UN and Hamas denied Israeli claims that militants were firing from the school.[/quote] When are people going to open your eyes. Fun fact: 205 children have been killed. [b]Killed[/b]. But what can you expect when Israel drops thousand pound bombs in crowded residential areas. [img]http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/middle_east_enl_1231274111/img/1.jpg[/img] Yeah those kids have been firing rockets :downs: But hey remember when the fabled Israeli intelligence provided this amazing footage of them surgically striking some Hamas rockets? When in fact it turned out to be simply workers loading gas canisters onto a truck? Wow they screwed up big time, especially after parading this on TV as 'proof' of their effectiveness. Also another cool fact: International European doctors at a hospital in Gaza reported only two militant casualties among hundreds of civilian casualties. Yet you people still believe Israeli propaganda?
[QUOTE=toxicpiano]Israel will pause gaza bombardment for three hours every day to let aid and things through: [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7815266.stm[/url] The decision follows an announcement by Israel that it had agreed to open a humanitarian corridor into Gaza to allow in vital supplies.[/QUOTE] They've been doing that everyday soo far... shame the AID warehouses are full.
I don't understand why the non Jewish people want to blow up the top Jews in the UK over this, since it's not like we're blowing anyone up.
[QUOTE=NoDachi]Fun fact: 205 children have been killed. [b]Killed[/b]. But what can you expect when Israel drops thousand pound bombs in crowded residential areas. Yeah those kids have been firing rockets :downs:[/quote] Yes, because they're the targets! Israel are aiming to kill Palestian children! </sarcasm> You idiot. [QUOTE=NoDachi]But hey remember when the fabled Israeli intelligence provided this amazing footage of them surgically striking some Hamas rockets? When in fact it turned out to be simply workers loading gas canisters onto a truck? Wow they screwed up big time, especially after parading this on TV as 'proof' of their effectiveness. [/quote] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG0CzM_Frvc[/media] Yes, because gas canisters are that long and thin. Take a look at it yourself. [img]http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0d4M5Pz6lG5Rg/610x.jpg[/img] [b]Grad missile being loaded.[/b] [QUOTE=NoDachi]Also another cool fact: International European doctors at a hospital in Gaza reported only two militant casualties among hundreds of civilian casualties. Yet you people still believe Israeli propaganda?[/QUOTE] Even HAMAS admit that at least 10 militants have been killed, but UN and Israeli estimates are much higher. Don't know where you're pulling your stats from. [b]Edit:[/b] [QUOTE=markg06]I don't understand why the non Jewish people want to blow up the top Jews in the UK over this, since it's not like we're blowing anyone up.[/QUOTE]It's because people are ignorant.
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7812547.stm[/url] watch this.
[QUOTE=NoDachi][url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7812547.stm[/url] watch this.[/QUOTE] It's not buffering for some odd reason, I'll watch it in 5 mins. But he looked Palestinian (the reporter)...
He's a BBC reporter still. He's a article on the BBC's staff in Gaza. [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/[/url]
Aww, people are dying. Wonderful, as soon as Hamas stops firing rockets it can end. I'm still not seeing why you're empathizing with innocent Palestinians and yet don't give two shits about the Israelis. This is still just a matter of bitching at who's killing innocents best, not at everyone for killing innocents period.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot]Aww, people are dying. Wonderful, as soon as Hamas stops firing rockets it can end.[/QUOTE] Hamas will out last Israel in this conflict. They're going to win. You should know it. On the last day, when Israel finally gives up and withdraws, a rocket will be fired from Gaza into Israel. While it won't do anything, it'll be very symbolic. That is why this conflict is so senseless, and Israel will never learn.
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