• Israel Thread [STOP MAKING NEW ONES]
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[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan]This is so disproportionate, so many civilians are dying... Also Itchybarracuda I think it's funny that you complain about dead Israeli civilians. How about you tell everyone how many Palestinian civilians have died since 2000? Why shouldn't Hamas fire rockets against Israel when the Palestinians are caged off in what are basically concentration camps? Do you honestly think that Israel will ever treat the Palestinians with at least a basic amount of dignity and respect for their sovereignty? Dead civilians are always terrible, but Israel's response is anything but measured and responsible.[/QUOTE] Hmm, about the dead Palestinian civilians, do you remmember the second WW? Did you know that more german civilians died than british and american ones? And same for the Japs... so well, this isn't a good argument. Now, the palestinians? Again, did you know that 20 years ago israelis could go to Gaza and be there, and palestinians could come here? Then, ofcourse, came the terrorists and blew(litteraly) it? Now, as an israely, I can tell you that we and the Arabs want to live toghether. Well, most of us. I have arab friends. they are like me, just they speak arabic and I speak hebrew. We all want peace. The problem is, that when Israel tries to negotiate with the leaders of the palestinians(Which are, by democratic votes, the Hamas), they can't. You know why? Because the Hamas said, and I quote:"We will not rest, and won't stop, until all the jewish people will die, and the last one will stand behind a rock, and the rock will say 'Muslim! Muslim! Come here, the jew is here!'." You just can't negotiate with people like this... I don't agree with the bombings. I want peace. I heard people from there, they are misrable.. But they chose(70%!) the Hamas. If they will hunt the Hamas(and they can. they are more than 1 milion, the Hamas is only about 10,000 people...) then the area will be in peace, and again israelis can walk in Gaza, and palestinians can walk here... Everyone is happy... By the way: [url]http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=j61ktUeDDuo[/url]
[QUOTE=Deadly-Ghost]You just can't negotiate with people like this...[/QUOTE] Yes you can. You need to be able to recognise rhetoric and hyperbole when you see it. Hamas is scum. But Israel can't act how it does and still try to grasp at the moral high ground.
[QUOTE=NoDachi] Anti-Zionism does not equal anti-jew. [/QUOTE] I've seen many people who think otherwise. Of course, I reckon they're wrong. Also, you should see this (may have been posted already). [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow%27s_Pioneers[/url] And this: [url]http://www.thejidf.org/[/url] (The word "terrorism" all over the site is a big propaganda thingy)
[QUOTE=NoDachi]Yes you can. You need to be able to recognise rhetoric and hyperbole when you see it. Hamas is scum. But Israel can't act how it does and still try to grasp at the moral high ground.[/QUOTE] I was talking about the Hamas. when they will be out, then(hopefully) the new leader will negotiate. Then, there will be peace.
[QUOTE=doggunn]It mentions how Israel loosened, and allowed cargo to flow through... [b]Edit:[/b] That's why the HAMAS leaders have been quoted saying they aim to spill the Jew's blood.[/QUOTE] Just because they said they want to spill the Jew's blood doesn't mean they're attacking them BECAUSE they're Jewish.
[QUOTE=Deadly-Ghost]I was talking about the Hamas. when they will be out, then(hopefully) the new leader will negotiate. Then, there will be peace.[/QUOTE] Sadly, Hamas has done alot of good for Palestine...
[QUOTE=Speed V4]Just because they said they want to spill the Jew's blood doesn't mean they're attacking them BECAUSE they're Jewish.[/QUOTE] You can't really be that ignorant can you?
[QUOTE=doggunn]You can't really be that ignorant can you?[/QUOTE] How was the skiing? I didn't know there was snow in Australia@
[QUOTE=toxicpiano]Israel will pause gaza bombardment for three hours every day to let aid and things through: [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7815266.stm[/url] The decision follows an announcement by Israel that it had agreed to open a humanitarian corridor into Gaza to allow in vital supplies.[/QUOTE] That's retarded. Why wait 3 hours just to bomb the fuck out of all the medical supplies that were just delivered.
[QUOTE=doggunn]Where did you get that information from?[/QUOTE] lol holy shit
[QUOTE=toxicpiano]How was the skiing? I didn't know there was snow in Australia@[/QUOTE] Haha, there is, and it's Summer in Australia. I'm in America skiing. [QUOTE=Chippays]lol holy shit[/QUOTE] I was asking, because those are not the exact clauses in the ceasefire. No need to be a douche.
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090107/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_gaza_a_reporter_s_story[/url] New story.
[url]http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE50710Y20090108[/url] Story has been confirmed. Lebanon are attacking Israel from the north. Think we are going to see a six day war again?
[QUOTE=Beafman][url]http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE50710Y20090108[/url] Story has been confirmed. Lebanon are attacking Israel from the north. Think we are going to see a six day war again?[/QUOTE] Maybe all the other arab nations will join in and attack Israel. I bet if that happens the US and the UN will come to their help immediately :rolleye:
Like this wasn't predictable.
Look what Israel did guys! [b]The UN's main aid agency has suspended its operations in Gaza because its staff have been hit by Israeli attacks. [/b] [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7818577.stm[/url] [quote]Our installations have been hit, our workers have been killed [highlight]in spite of the fact that the Israeli authorities have the co-ordinates of our facilities and that all our movements are co-ordinated with the Israeli army."[/highlight] [/quote] "It's not our fault that we knew their exact coordinates and purposely targeted them!"
[url]http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L8236612.htm[/url] SHIT RELIGION COCKFIGHT INCOMING.
[QUOTE=Speed V4;13124071]Maybe all the other arab nations will join in and attack Israel. I bet if that happens the US and the UN will come to their help immediately :rolleye:[/QUOTE] I strongly doubt it. Besides, Egypt and Saudi Arabia hate Hamas with a passion.
A good reason they aren't getting anything is they aren't refugees. Dictionary.com says a refugee is "A person who flees for refuge or safety, esp. to a foreign country, as in time of political upheaval, war, etc." They are dumb citizens for not leaving like they were told to. Israel called them many times before the firing stopped 6 months. Told them to get out. A wall was built to keep the suicide bombers to stop them from going into public places to stop them. Even with the water and food Hamas gets it doesn't go to the people. It goes to Hamas.
[QUOTE=Speed V4;13124071]Maybe all the other arab nations will join in and attack Israel. I bet if that happens the US and the UN will come to their help immediately :rolleye:[/QUOTE] That happened a few decades ago. Israel owned them all.
good work isreal you blew up food van
[QUOTE=blacksam;13127029]A good reason they aren't getting anything is they aren't refugees. Dictionary.com says a refugee is "A person who flees for refuge or safety, esp. to a foreign country, as in time of political upheaval, war, etc." They are dumb citizens for not leaving like they were told to. Israel called them many times before the firing stopped 6 months. Told them to get out. A wall was built to keep the suicide bombers to stop them from going into public places to stop them. Even with the water and food Hamas gets it doesn't go to the people. It goes to Hamas.[/QUOTE] The civilians might not have been able to get out because they don't have enough money.
More than a food van. They were purposely hitting UN and Red Cross installations.
[QUOTE=blacksam;13127029]A good reason they aren't getting anything is they aren't refugees. Dictionary.com says a refugee is "A person who flees for refuge or safety, esp. to a foreign country, as in time of political upheaval, war, etc." They are dumb citizens for not leaving like they were told to. Israel called them many times before the firing stopped 6 months. Told them to get out. A wall was built to keep the suicide bombers to stop them from going into public places to stop them. Even with the water and food Hamas gets it doesn't go to the people. It goes to Hamas.[/QUOTE] Israel is hitting the Refugee camps too! What... No automerge?! >:O
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;13129811]More than a food van. They were purposely hitting UN and Red Cross installations.[/QUOTE] you mean a terrorist truck and school er i mean terrorist house
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;13129784]good work isreal you blew up food van[/QUOTE] :/. This time it was inexcusable. I hope they start to pick up their game. [QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;13129811]More than a food van. They were purposely hitting UN and Red Cross installations.[/QUOTE] I doubt it.
There's a bbc link right there... I suppose that's Palestinian propaganda too :\
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;13131562]There's a bbc link right there... I suppose that's Palestinian propaganda too :\[/QUOTE] Don't be silly. Everyone who isn't a Zionist Israeli Jew living in a settlement in the West bank is completely unqualified to give an opinion. Of couse they're going to be biased!
No one listens to the UN condemnations because they don't mean anything. It's like when a teacher threatens you with a good talking to. What do you do? Wait until he's looking away and go right back to what you were doing.
[QUOTE=Chippays;13131635]Don't be silly. Everyone who isn't a Zionist Israeli Jew living in a settlement in the West bank is completely unqualified to give an opinion. Of couse they're going to be biased![/QUOTE] No, anyone who has an extremely bias point of view is unqualified to give an opinion. Every article published on the BBC website has been distorted to favor the Palestinians (fine) but without reporting on any of the negativity of the Palestinians.
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