• Israel Thread [STOP MAKING NEW ONES]
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Uhm, yes I can. Also, no, if you bothered to even read this little tidbit [url]http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showpost.php?p=13125914&postcount=1757[/url] You'd see they knew the exact location of the vehicle because it was reporting it to IDF forces. And are you honestly suggesting that breaking an international treaty is justified because someone else did? Hey, lets commit a holocaust cause germany started it first! Not that you can even compare palestine to germany in this situation (yet I'm sure you somehow will).
That is pure speculation...
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;13134110]Uhm, yes I can. Also, no, if you bothered to even read this little tidbit [url]http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showpost.php?p=13125914&postcount=1757[/url] You'd see they knew the exact location of the vehicle because it was reporting it to IDF forces. And are you honestly suggesting that breaking an international treaty is justified because someone else did? Hey, lets commit a holocaust cause germany started it first! Not that you can even compare palestine to germany in this situation (yet I'm sure you somehow will).[/QUOTE] I don't know who you're referring to because doggun snipped his post, but that comparison to the Nazis is fucking retarded, so enough about that. Also just because the UN spokesman said they are in communication doesn't mean they are in 24/7 direct vocal and GPS communication with every single staffer or piece of equipment. You seem to call bias on every single other person who is opposed to you, so I'm going to go ahead and call bias on this guy.
You know who i was talking to, and the comparison to the nazis was clearly to point out that an eye for an eye doesn't work with the making and breaking of international affairs. If you bothered AT ALL to read it, you'd see that they hit stationary installations as well, Hurr Hurr, I'm sure that you wouldn't need constant updates and streaming video with gps' to identify a building as safe. Also, I'm sorry but, it's not hard to spot a UN truck [img]http://www.avonhill.com/thumbnails/military/M135_6x6_truck.jpeg[/img] [img]http://www.greaterthings.com/News/UNVehicles/ambulance.jpg[/img] I never called you biased either. But this does speak for itself [img]http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/image.php?u=25885&dateline=1231472393[/img]
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;13134272]You know who i was talking to, and the comparison to the nazis was clearly to point out that an eye for an eye doesn't work with the making and breaking of international affairs. If you bothered AT ALL to read it, you'd see that they hit stationary installations as well, Hurr Hurr, I'm sure that you wouldn't need constant updates and streaming video with gps' to identify a building as safe. Also, I'm sorry but, it's not hard to spot a UN truck [img]http://www.avonhill.com/thumbnails/military/M135_6x6_truck.jpeg[/img] [img]http://www.greaterthings.com/News/UNVehicles/ambulance.jpg[/img] I never called you biased either. But this does speak for itself [img]http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/image.php?u=25885&dateline=1231472393[/img][/QUOTE] Yep, because based on the evidence presented, I agree with Israel's actions. INSTANT BIAS! Also, Roof knock.
If you don't think you aren't letting on a degree of bias towards Israel then wow... Also, let's pull a yesterday and not respond to my entire post. And I'd like to state again that I never did call you bias till you brought it up (guilty conscience I guess)
So are we discussing whether or not Israel is intentionally targeting UN targets? I get the feeling that unless Israel has solid intel on targets using UN stations for cover, that they aren't going to target them intentionally at all. It is simply a matter of PR. Frankly the UN workers should have left as soon as combat started. As of now they are getting in the way of a military conflict that they have no right to be involved with.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;13134386]If you don't think you aren't letting on a degree of bias towards Israel then wow... Also, let's pull a yesterday and not respond to my entire post. And I'd like to state again that I never did call you bias till you brought it up (guilty conscience I guess)[/QUOTE] Haha - let's do a yesterday shall we? Some posts are not worth responding to, as they have no valid content. (This one is worth a read, but not worth responding too)
UN peacekeeping forces are supposed to arrive during combat to uhm.... Peacekeep... That's their purpose... They weren't in gaza during the first half of the conflict gunfox...
[QUOTE=doggunn;13134426]Haha - let's do a yesterday shall we? Some posts are not worth responding to, as they have no valid content. (This one is worth a read, but not worth responding too)[/QUOTE] ??? Are you raging cause I might have skipped over you at some point?
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;13134386]And I'd like to state again that I never did call you bias till you brought it up (guilty conscience I guess)[/QUOTE] Yup, competely [QUOTE=GunFox;13134396]So are we discussing whether or not Israel is intentionally targeting UN targets? I get the feeling that unless Israel has solid intel on targets using UN stations for cover, that they aren't going to target them intentionally at all. It is simply a matter of PR. Frankly the UN workers should have left as soon as combat started. As of now they are getting in the way of a military conflict that they have no right to be involved with.[/QUOTE] Thank you
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;13134429]UN peacekeeping forces are supposed to arrive during combat to uhm.... Peacekeep... That's their purpose... They weren't in gaza during the first half of the conflict gunfox...[/QUOTE] I didn't know ambulance drivers were also combat ready peacekeepers
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;13134433]??? Are you raging cause I might have skipped over you at some point?[/QUOTE] Nah.
There were more than just ambulances scurrying around gaza, and I never said anything about combat ready, but it is clear that UN presence is meant to boast a degree of "working towards peace" attitude. Stop shoving words in my mouth please
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;13134429]UN peacekeeping forces are supposed to arrive during combat to uhm.... Peacekeep... That's their purpose... They weren't in gaza during the first half of the conflict gunfox...[/QUOTE] UN run schools means UN workers. They were in Gaza beforehand.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;13134494]There were more than just ambulances scurrying around gaza, and I never said anything about combat ready, but it is clear that UN presence is meant to boast a degree of "working towards peace" attitude. Stop shoving words in my mouth please[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;13134429]UN peacekeeping forces are supposed to arrive during combat to uhm.... Peacekeep... That's their purpose... They weren't in gaza during the first half of the conflict gunfox...[/QUOTE] Hurf Durf As Gunfox said, they shouldn't be there right now
Hurf Durf That defeats the purpose of "working towards peace" Let's repeat another rwanda and wait for the conflict to subside before the UN enters!
Now if they were actually peace keepers coming in to restore order under a mandate from the United Nations, then that would be fine. They could restore order and bring all the aid and supplies they wished. But this is not the case. Currently they are throwing relief workers into the middle of a warzone and complaining when they catch a shell as a result.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;13134534]Let's repeat another rwanda and wait for the conflict to subside before the UN enters![/QUOTE] In all honesty, they would not have done shit if they had entered - they may have gotten in the crossfire and gotten killed though.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;13134534]Hurf Durf That defeats the purpose of "working towards peace" Let's repeat another rwanda and wait for the conflict to subside before the UN enters![/QUOTE] Except it is The Palestinian Government's job to work towards peace, and they aren't cooperating. Also as I understand, Rwanda was a civil conflict, breaking only it's own laws, not international ones. Sad yes, illegal, not really.
[QUOTE=GunFox;13134555]Now if they were actually peace keepers coming in to restore order under a mandate from the United Nations, then that would be fine. They could restore order and bring all the aid and supplies they wished. But this is not the case. Currently they are throwing relief workers into the middle of a warzone and complaining when they catch a shell as a result.[/QUOTE] Who exactly would they be restoring order for? Roll out the tanks and get ready to fight no one? I'm pretty sure that the only threat to life in palestine is the IDF, and peacekeeping forces can do nothing in that situation.
[QUOTE=Karskin;13134563]Except it is The Palestinian Government's job to work towards peace, and they aren't cooperating. Also as I understand, Rwanda was a civil conflict, breaking only it's own laws, not international ones. Sad yes, illegal, not really.[/QUOTE] Except for the ceasefire they requested?...
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;13134572]and peacekeeping forces can do nothing in that situation.[/QUOTE] Then why are they in there?
Peace keeping forces rarely do dick. For the most part fighting stops when they arrive. Nobody seriously opposes the UN peace keepers except for smaller sub-factions. Israel in particular wouldn't oppose them as the UN is responsible for their existence. And furthermore the UN being the baby of the US, Israel really wouldn't want to fuck with them because it would place more strain on their relations with the US. EDIT: Oh, except rape people. They do that. As it turns out, UN peace keepers like to get their rape on. And because they are peace keepers, there is no accountability.
(karskin) And what? The Rwanda conflict broke international laws. If you didn't get the fact that genocide is a crime.
[QUOTE=Karskin;13134065]You see Hamas doesn't follow that pesky Geneva convention. [/QUOTE] Israel signed and ratified the Geneva Convention, Hamas did not. They can be held liable. And the point of the Geneva Convention is to take a moral high ground against those who don't adhere to it, not "You must follow these rules...unless they're inconvenient"
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;13134592]Except for the ceasefire they requested?...[/QUOTE] Look up hudna
[QUOTE=GunFox;13134613]Peace keeping forces rarely do dick. For the most part fighting stops when they arrive. Nobody seriously opposes the UN peace keepers except for smaller sub-factions. Israel in particular wouldn't oppose them as the UN is responsible for their existence. And furthermore the UN being the baby of the US, Israel really wouldn't want to fuck with them because it would place more strain on their relations with the US. EDIT: Oh, except rape people. They do that. As it turns out, UN peace keepers like to get their rape on. And because they are peace keepers, there is no accountability.[/QUOTE] They were trying to set up refugee camps... But that turned out as a failure after Israel killed the refugees...
[QUOTE=Karskin;13134632]Look up hudna[/QUOTE] Yes yes, you've said this before. I don't get how it's relevant, are you saying any ceasefire with Israel should be denied because of this? How the fuck can they possibly work towards peace?
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