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[QUOTE=KillerTV;13143162]Dear god you're serious aren't you.[/QUOTE] Go away with your useless replies.
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[QUOTE=OHaiYo;13143189]UN = Trolls [img]http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-awesome.gif[/img][/QUOTE] UN = idiots. We've agreed on this by now.
[QUOTE=doggunn;13143173]The articles I've read from BBC always leave out the atrocities that the Palestinians commit - this has been over a period of years that this has been happening, whereas they happily report on the Israeli atrocities. I remember a couple of years ago, there was a suicide bomber who blew himself up at an Israeli cafe, and killed 2 people. Israel responded by bombing some area, don't remember where, and killed one person. The BBC did not even mention that it was in response to a suicide bomber, rather Israel was retaliating. The BBC have reported that they let their own personal bias affect their articles.[/QUOTE] That is pretty funny since here is an article from March complaining that the BBC were only focusing on Israeli deaths. [url]http://www.medialens.org/alerts/08/080311_israeli_deaths_matter.php[/url] Since both sides are unhappy with their fair representation I guess it is pretty balanced.
[QUOTE=doggunn;13143173]The articles I've read from BBC always leave out the atrocities that the Palestinians commit - this has been over a period of years that this has been happening, whereas they happily report on the Israeli atrocities. I remember a couple of years ago, there was a suicide bomber who blew himself up at an Israeli cafe, and killed 2 people. Israel responded by bombing some area, don't remember where, and killed one person. The BBC did not even mention that it was in response to a suicide bomber, rather Israel was retaliating. The BBC have reported that they let their own personal bias affect their articles.[/QUOTE] So the BBC is biased but you can throw out something like that without knowing all the facts, giving any indication to the details, or offering any proof at all to back up such a claim. They are currently covering the Palestinan side more, can you guess why the fuck? Oh that's right, coming up to 800 people have died there in the past week! Tip: That's a little bit more to report then "Israel had some more missiles fired at it, no casualties". The BBC reported that due to an internal survey they found their articles and journalists tended to lean towards the political left. If they can pick such issues in their internal structure then I'm sure they can manage to report impartially. But hey I guess the universal critical acclaim, and being the single most popular and revered news agency on the planet isn't enough for you because they don't like the killing of civilians. [QUOTE=doggunn;13143177]Go away with your useless replies.[/QUOTE] As opposed to your replies asking for people to cite their sources on statements you seem to agree with, your refusal to acknowledge news sources that don't agree with you, along with your insistence on trying to justify why causing a major humanitarian crisis, shelling schools, and causing massive collateral damage is alright. Frankly I'd give some useful replies to your posts, but they're beyond words.
[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;13141867]terrorism in the united states has reduced tenfold since the introduction of the patriot act.[/QUOTE] Tenfold? Really? And your basis for this figure is...what.
He is being satirical don't you get it?
[quote=omali;13143465]tenfold? Really? And your basis for this figure is...what.[/quote] dont you doubt the great america if you do you are on the side of the terrorists
[QUOTE=©opyright;13142446][img]http://content.ytmnd.com/content/f/e/8/fe8779b1e1e47977bed31f81b9e48ca1.jpg[/img] Dancing rocket man [U]will[/U] save the day.[/QUOTE] Looks like barbed wire at first.
[QUOTE=doggunn;13142580]You have great sources. Like the BBC - always reporting fair and balanced.[/QUOTE] Oh how about the fact that [b]THE BBC IS THE ONLY INTERNATIONALLY REPUTABLE NEWS SERVICE THAT IS OPERATING INSIDE GAZA. SINCE THE BEGINNING AND BEFORE THE CONFLICT[/b]. I'm putting extra stress on the [b]ONLY[/b]. Because the Israelicunts has banned anything other than pro-israeli media. Makes you think eh? Anything else is second hand information at best. You can't find a source that is more fair than the BBC. I task you to find one. Just because it doesn't always run parallel with your own personal view. But hey, maybe that's because yours has simply become distorted beyond reality perhaps :)
[QUOTE=NoDachi;13144301]Oh how about the fact that [b]THE BBC IS THE ONLY INTERNATIONALLY REPUTABLE NEWS SERVICE THAT IS OPERATING INSIDE GAZA. SINCE THE BEGINNING AND BEFORE THE CONFLICT[/b]. I'm putting extra stress on the [b]ONLY[/b]. Because the Israelicunts has banned anything other than pro-israeli media. Makes you think eh? Anything else is second hand information at best. You can't find a source that is more fair than the BBC. I task you to find one. Just because it doesn't always run parallel with your own personal view. But hey, maybe that's because yours has simply become distorted beyond reality perhaps :)[/QUOTE] Aye, the BBC is traditionally a fantastic news source. Far more reliable and less sensationalist than Fox news or CNN or similar American media outlets. Possibly because the BBC has no need to achieve the ratings of American media outlets. However, I am faced with a problem. I recognize the writing coming from the reports inside the strip. It sounds like it is coming straight from CNN. It wreaks of sensationalism and is making outrageous claims on a regular basis. Claims that just don't make any sense in relation to the goals or interests of the IDF. Intentionally slaughtering civilians in a public fashion is horrible PR for them and it works in their favor to avoid unnecessary civilian casualties. So this raises several questions about the reporters (of which I imagine there are only a very spare few.) Are they biased? I place great faith in the BBC, but I do not blindly accept what I am told. The picture they paint frequently makes little sense on this topic. Are they getting the whole story? I mean just because a group of people look like civilians means nothing. They could very well be enemy combatants. In a conventional war this wouldn't be such an issue, but these are enemies who wish to win this war by creating negative media against Israel. It is their primary and most effective means of defense. Making things[I] appear[/I] different than they are is their goal. Also keep in mind that the BBC was allowed to remain in gaza by Hamas. Hamas does not allow freedom of the press. That was one of their first moves in office. I love the BBC, but you have forgive me if I find their reports somewhat suspect in this situation. Something is amiss. These stories are way too one sided. The BBC traditionally gives the [I]news[/I] with minimal slant, even when the situation has a relatively obvious "good guy".
Neither do I blindly accept anything. They also leave disclaimers on each article mentioning the media blackout and how claims can not be individually verified. You also need to be careful that you don't mistake the articles such as the many 'Eyewitness Reports' or 'Diaries'. Which the BBC does provide for both sides. But I still stand by my comment that the BBC is the only source with the expertise and men on the ground to provide the most accurate picture we can get of this conflict. For a long, long time. I never said it's a perfect picture. But for the sake of argument, it's better to cite the BBC than Al-jazeera or any Israeli source.
I haven't been in this forum for such a long time, I remember it for the Anti-Semitics and Anti-Israelis. So I'd like to post there [IMG]http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=n1422211077301932672662td7.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JDeGVnP5j20/SVuvfEpNckI/AAAAAAAAADE/MLqeBtPDCdA/s1600-h/1_125418870.jpg[/IMG] In case the images aren't shown: [url]http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=n1422211077301932672662td7.jpg[/url] [url]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JDeGVnP5j20/SVuvfEpNckI/AAAAAAAAADE/MLqeBtPDCdA/s1600-h/1_125418870.jpg[/url]
Thank you for opening my eyes with your convincing argument displayed in a thought provoking manner that helped me understand the situation more and reach a conclusion based upon this knowledge in a informed manner.
I feel bad for laughing at those pictures, but they are indeed hilarious.
It's true though, isn't it? of course it isn't. Because from your home, which is thousands of miles away, you know way better about the situation than people who live it, or live 5 miles away.
As irrelevant as it may seem now, if you were here last night it would have made more sense, but I'm still going to say it. I don't look at the evidence differently because I am pro-Israel, I am pro-Israel because I look at the evidence.
[B]Here's a story:[/B] The world loves to criticize Israel for it's acts. We've been supplying Gaza non stop, all the time, thanks to us, they can live a proper life - but unfortunately, Hamas controls Gaza, so they're pretty much in a problem, even though they had democratic elections and chose Hamas. So no matter how many Israelis are killed and homes are destroyed and schools are hit, for some reason it has less impact on the world than when a 'innocent' child in Gaza is dead, a PICTURE of Ariel Sharon - Former Prime Minister drawn as Godzilla destroying a badly drawn Gaza area [B]wins a award in some useless award giving what ever.[/B] Very Irritating. I wrote this while being pretty angry, so I probably had some mistakes in the Spelling or Grammar [B]EDIT[/B] - = [B]*Truth Alert* *Truth Alert*[/B] = - If USA or ENGLAND would have rockets constantly, daily, hit areas in the country and kill innocent citizens , within the next hour of the first wave of rockets. thousands of tanks, robots, big ass planes dropping atomic bombs and millions of soldiers and support of the whole world will be at the door step of those who launched the rockets. Israel = Definition of EVIL Please, don't make me post a minute of 2 minutes which will make you shut the fuck up for a long time, or as you might say "open you're eyes"... and leave it open for the rest of your life, Asians might have normal eyes like the rest of the world (no racism).
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1M4eH9Kk7I[/media] Funny rant. Anyhoo, Willie Pete shells, Israel on Gaza, great idea or what? I didn't think anybody besides the U.S. used that stuff anymore.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;13145387][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1M4eH9Kk7I[/media] Funny rant. Anyhoo, Willie Pete shells, Israel on Gaza, great idea or what? I didn't think anybody besides the U.S. used that stuff anymore.[/QUOTE] This is why I said ignoring the religious implications in all this is asinine.
Also, in the thread, what I said about ambulances, bam: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAR_Iwq9-R0&feature=channel_page[/media]
Karskin, what ever you show us, you must understand, it's all for Allah! so it is permitted! Kids as human shields, it's all sacrifice for Allah! So it's completely fine to do all this, and I encourage my son to do the same when he grows up. To join the Hamas and: 1. Go into a home with 3 friends, everyone equipped with rifles, send the family to the edge of the room and threaten to kill them all if they move. 2. Set up the rocket launchers and aim them towards cities, specifically schools - filled with EVIL JEWS. 3. Launch the rockets while the family is inside in aim to make the life of innocent civilians miserable. 4. Run away and leave the family and equipment inside. 5. Wait with a video camera and film from a safe distance as Israel destroys the area where the rockets have been launched from. 6. Run to the world and say: "Look how evil ISRAEL is, killing innocent civilians!" :D [B]IF I MAY ADD:[/B] 1. ISRAEL WANTS PEACE! 2. The IDF targets terrorist outposts and always attempts to limit civilian casualties. 3. The definition of TERRORISM is the deliberate targeting of civilians, which HAMAS does daily to Israel. 4. Israel is, and always has been, sending food and humanitarian aid into Gaza through the Karni and Keren crossings. 5. HAMAS is arbitrarily firing rockets into Israeli civilian areas including nursery schools, hospitals, and shopping malls. 6. Israel left Gaza for peace in August of 2005 and has been attacked from Gaza with thousands of rockets ever since. 7. Israeli citizens live with post-traumatic stress syndrome as a result of daily rocket attacks. 8. Israelis only have 15 seconds to run into bomb shelters once a rocket is fired by Hamas. 9. HAMAS' incitement and ammunition build-up has reached dangerous levels and during the last week alone we have seen HUNDREDS of rockets fired into Israel. 10. Hamas openly admits to using civilians as human shields. 11. How would the US react to a missile attack on its citizens coming from Canada or Mexico? 12. Israel, as any viable democracy, must defend its citizens. 13. While Gaza suffers under Hamas' rule, the West Bank has witnessed an upsurge in economic activity. 14. ISRAEL WANTS PEACE! QUOTES / ARTICLES 1. "I say Hamas is the cause of all wars." - A Palestinian girl whose family members was killed in Gaza [12/28/08] ([url]http://pmw.org.il/Bulletins_Dec2008.htm#b2912083[/url]) 2. "We desire death as you desire life." - Fathi Hamad, Member, Palestinian Legislative Council, Hamas [2/29/08] ([url]http://standwithus.org/app/iNews/view_n.asp?ID=728[/url]) 3. Palestinian President Abbas blames Hamas for bringing Israel's wrath - [12/28/08] ([url]http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LS264262.htm[/url]) (FROM [url]http://standwithuscampus.com[/url] )
[QUOTE=Karskin;13141696]Even though even I agree with the notion and the logic, the ethics are still laughable.[/QUOTE] yes let's bomb children that's a logic to support
[QUOTE=Egevened;13146587]yes let's bomb children that's a logic to support[/QUOTE] Watch the video at the top of this page you goof
[QUOTE=Karskin;13148318]Watch the video at the top of this page you goof[/QUOTE] you callin me a goof
[QUOTE=Egevened;13148641]you callin me a goof[/QUOTE] I tell it how it is
This thread has regressed.
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13145377][B]Here's a story:[/B] The world loves to criticize Israel for it's acts. We've been supplying Gaza non stop, all the time, thanks to us, they can live a proper life - but unfortunately, Hamas controls Gaza, so they're pretty much in a problem, even though they had democratic elections and chose Hamas. So no matter how many Israelis are killed and homes are destroyed and schools are hit, for some reason it has less impact on the world than when a 'innocent' child in Gaza is dead, a PICTURE of Ariel Sharon - Former Prime Minister drawn as Godzilla destroying a badly drawn Gaza area [B]wins a award in some useless award giving what ever.[/B] Very Irritating. I wrote this while being pretty angry, so I probably had some mistakes in the Spelling or Grammar [B]EDIT[/B] - = [B]*Truth Alert* *Truth Alert*[/B] = - If USA or ENGLAND would have rockets constantly, daily, hit areas in the country and kill innocent citizens , within the next hour of the first wave of rockets. thousands of tanks, robots, big ass planes dropping atomic bombs and millions of soldiers and support of the whole world will be at the door step of those who launched the rockets. Israel = Definition of EVIL Please, don't make me post a minute of 2 minutes which will make you shut the fuck up for a long time, or as you might say "open you're eyes"... and leave it open for the rest of your life, Asians might have normal eyes like the rest of the world (no racism).[/QUOTE] if the US was bombarding a partitioned ghetto in Texas used for storing illegal immigrants/ethnic Mexicans that are lashing out against US treatment then your analogy would be better but it would still be wrong woops
[QUOTE=person11;13149199]This thread has regressed.[/QUOTE] Where's the god damn agree rating?
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