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[QUOTE=Taishu;13411145]Except you didn't warn that UN school before bombarding it with white phosphor. Heck you were even told that it was a civilian refuge, with exact coordinates. I wonder if anyone else were actually warned before they were bombed. [B]Oh yea so mistakes don't happen right? no other army had mistakes, when Israel makes mistakes it's a fuckin war crime, and best believe they have been warned before being bombed, my cousin is in the army in the less action filled unit - which part of what they did was warn the residents and he came with his family and showed us the papers and you won't believe how informative they are, they don't just say "get out of the house" they're detailed and they tell them to fight the hamas and stop listening to them. You don't know, you're thousands of miles away, and you speak LIKE YOU'VE BEEN IN THERE, and the news team can go fuck itself because they never show the whole picture.[/B] They couldn't leave the area since Israel was blocking off the roads. I seriously hope you're a troll. [B]So why the fuck would we warn them? waste of money, isn't it? - conspiracy or something like that? Naw uh, don't let that shit fill your head, how about you come over here to Israel and stay for a few weeks and take a look at what's going on in gaza and around it, then come back to the forum and we'll see if your mind changes, even though IDF done a real good job knocking off the rocket fire. [/B] [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Anonim;13412157]Well how the fuck is that going to help when you've fucked up their powerplant and the entire phoneline is dead?[/QUOTE] WHAT POWER PLANT? WHAT PHONELINE? We support all that SHIT. [B]We support the electricity[/B]! Now if I may ask again, why didn't you care when Israeli citizens were dying huh? Why didn't you make a thread on the forum saying "rocket fire on Israel" and talking about the poor Israelis dying and having to live with rockets ruining their day every day for [B]the last 8 fucking years![/B] and all the fucking [B]sniping[/B] and [B]suicide bombing[/B] - Where was and is the world when that happens? Are yall simply anti Semitics and/or hypocrites? - you don't really care about anybody's lives? Where were you when the genocide began in Turkey? A few years back! Where was the world criticizing Russia when they killed many innocent civilians in Georgia? Where is the Red Cross, we have a prisoner of war in a terrorist cage probably in the most anus conditions for the last 3 years and the UN don't give a fuck - yall don't REALLY care about anybody's lives. It's all because we're Israelis or Jews - Since we're that, we aren't allowed to protect ourselves right? We don't deserve [B]shit[/B]. So why the fuck say free Palestine when you can say bomb Israel - quicker and more direct way of getting rid of us.
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13412707]WHAT POWER PLANT? WHAT PHONELINE? We support all that SHIT. [B]We support the electricity[/B]![/QUOTE] You're an absolute joke. I find it sad that you'll never realise that.
[B]here's your answer[/B] [url]http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3496729,00.html[/url] [B]It's Israeli? Yep[/B] Why would any other news channel like those wankers in BBS say anything good about Israel? it's Pro Israel = loss of rating = Muslims on the streets protesting saying they're poor ass feelings are hurt. [B]That's why the fuck we have more Anti Israelis than Pro Israelis because it's people like you who get so much negative bullshit information about Israel and based upon what they heard the come against Israel - no offense - choose what you believe I'm just saying.[/B] [B]Here's a foreign site [/B] [url]http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/israel-cuts-electricity-and-food-supplies-gaza-20080121[/url] they don't mention that on the flipside thanks to Israel they have food, clean water and elecricity. See? only the negative shit about all that What about the other shit I wrote? What can you say about that?
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13412939][B]here's your answer[/B] [url]http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3496729,00.html[/url] [B]It's Israeli? Yep[/B] Why would any other news channel like those wankers in BBS say anything good about Israel? it's Pro Israel = loss of rating = Muslims on the streets protesting saying they're poor ass feelings are hurt. [B]That's why the fuck we have more Anti Israelis than Pro Israelis because it's people like you who get so much negative bullshit information about Israel and based upon what they heard the come against Israel - no offense - choose what you believe I'm just saying.[/B] [B]Here's a foreign site [/B] [url]http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/israel-cuts-electricity-and-food-supplies-gaza-20080121[/url] they don't mention that on the flipside thanks to Israel they have food, clean water and elecricity. See? only the negative shit about all that What about the other shit I wrote? What can you say about that?[/QUOTE] I am jewish and even i think you are going over the line here.
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13412707]Oh yea so mistakes don't happen right? no other army had mistakes,[/QUOTE] Whoops, sorry, dropped some white phosphor on your face. Mistakes happen lol. [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13412707]when Israel makes mistakes it's a fuckin war crime,[/QUOTE] Using white phosphor against civilians on purpose is a fucking war crime no matter what country it is. [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13412707]and best believe they have been warned before being bombed, my cousin is in the army in the less action filled unit - which part of what they did was warn the residents and he came with his family and showed us the papers and you won't believe how informative they are, they don't just say "get out of the house" they're detailed and they tell them to fight the hamas and stop listening to them.[/QUOTE] Okay, so I'll just take your completly unbiased cousin's statement as fact. [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13412707]You don't know, you're thousands of miles away, and you speak LIKE YOU'VE BEEN IN THERE, and the news team can go fuck itself because they never show the whole picture.[/QUOTE] You're speaking like it's only one newstation that's reporting Israel's war crimes. Besides, if anyone is subjective here it would be you, seeing as you live in Israel (I think?), and your cousin also works for the Israeli propaganda department. [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13412707]So why the fuck would we warn them? waste of money, isn't it? - conspiracy or something like that? Naw uh, don't let that shit fill your head, how about you come over here to Israel and stay for a few weeks and take a look at what's going on in gaza and around it, then come back to the forum and we'll see if your mind changes, even though IDF done a real good job knocking off the rocket fire. [/QUOTE] It's true, I can't really see the point in warning them. If they stay they get bombed, if they run to the refugee center they get bombed. Either you're completly oblivious to everything, or you're a quite talented troll. I sincerly pray for it to be the latter. Also, stop using strawman arguments. Nobody here is antisemitic or supports Hamas.
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13412939][B]here's your answer[/B] [url]http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3496729,00.html[/url] [B]It's Israeli? Yep[/B] Why would any other news channel like those wankers in BBS say anything good about Israel? it's Pro Israel = loss of rating = Muslims on the streets protesting saying they're poor ass feelings are hurt. [B]That's why the fuck we have more Anti Israelis than Pro Israelis because it's people like you who get so much negative bullshit information about Israel and based upon what they heard the come against Israel - no offense - choose what you believe I'm just saying.[/B] [B]Here's a foreign site [/B] [url]http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/israel-cuts-electricity-and-food-supplies-gaza-20080121[/url] they don't mention that on the flipside thanks to Israel they have food, clean water and elecricity. See? only the negative shit about all that What about the other shit I wrote? What can you say about that?[/QUOTE] that article is over a fucking year old. get off your high horse. there's no fucking anti-israeli conspiracy trying to brainwash people against all mighty holy noble israel and for the evil dumb animal puppy kicking muslims. the only single power plant in gaza is powered by foreign shipments which have been blocked off by israel's blockade and practical siege of the region. most food and water is also imported from humanitarian aid because the blockade restricts farmers from selling their surplus and preventing the gaza government from ever establishing it's own agriculture to feed its citizens.
[B]conscript:[/B] How about they won't choose a terrorist organization for government next elections. Because half of what's imported and out ported and what ever consists weapons and ammo and fuel and what ever. There's god damn evidence - the tunnels - digged by hamas and they say it's all for food, well food my ass, you and I both know what goes in and out ain't puttin food on their table, it's puttin weapons and their windows and rockets on the rooftops. - When Israel opened the 'doors' for what ever do go in and out, hamas used that opportunity to fire upon the trucks running in - THE ISRAELI TRUCKS, we help their citizens - they don't want it, we can't sacrifice soldiers for this shit, we can for eliminating the hamas but you're poor people just keep mindlessly running in to the line of fire. And then the whole world goes "What the fuck is you doing?" "Why the fuck did you do that?" "How the fuck could you?" Now answer me, without any extra words, does Israel - like any other god damn country, has a right to protect ALL of it's citizens? no matter what religion, skin color, sex and what ever? And any intelligent person will say YES. Now when we punch hamas - citizens do get hurt and killed - we try to minimum the amount of innocent casualties but they are in the way all the time!! And if you say we kill them on purpose then I have nothing else to say to you - I won't start dropping big ass texts to change that thought - too pointless. [QUOTE=Taishu;13413419]Whoops, sorry, dropped some white phosphor on your face. Mistakes happen lol. Using white phosphor against civilians on purpose is a fucking war crime no matter what country it is. [B]Why do you think we do that on purpose? If you do then I won't argue with that, that's clearly pulling ideas out your ass. - Turkey done a genocide on it's minority a few years back - whoops killed some people on purpose.[/B] Okay, so I'll just take your completly unbiased cousin's statement as fact. [B]Yeah, seems today like everything on the internet today is a lie[/B] You're speaking like it's only one newstation that's reporting Israel's war crimes. Besides, if anyone is subjective here it would be you, seeing as you live in Israel (I think?), and your cousin also works for the Israeli propaganda department. [B]I'm speaking as how the fuck does the whole world think we commit war crimes?! a few years ago 2 soldiers accidentally got trapped within Gaza in their car and they were pulled out, stabbed and thrown out the 2nd floor and were stomped on and there's a picture of a kid with blood on his hands showing the camera - nobody gives a shit today, a Palestinian kid got caught in a fire fight that causes a bigass earthquake doesn't it? Though a family in a house (Jews) had 4 terrorists enter their house the mother was killed on the entry and the father was shot infront of the daughters eyes and the daughters face got her shit slammed out by the ass of the gun and died instantly then they ran outside killed 2 police officers, the terrorists later got killed, 1 captured, released for a prisoner and is a god damn hero to the radical Islam nation. [/B] It's true, I can't really see the point in warning them. If they stay they get bombed, if they run to the refugee center they get bombed. [B]Yea right, we've flattened Gaza, no more buildings, - we bombed the whole area, 50 times killed every fuckin human on that area, carpet bombed one more time just to check if there are no survivors. and again 1 more time for the holidays and finished the war.[/B] Either you're completly oblivious to everything, or you're a quite talented troll. I sincerly pray for it to be the latter. [B]I love you too.[/B] Also, stop using strawman arguments. Nobody here is antisemitic or supports Hamas.[/QUOTE] [B]what the fuck is strawman and sure you're not that's why I ask again a question below:[/B] [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13412707]Why didn't you care when Israeli citizens were dying huh? Why didn't you make a thread on the forum saying "rocket fire on Israel" and talking about the poor Israelis dying and having to live with rockets ruining their day every day for [B]the last 8 fucking years![/B] and all the fucking [B]sniping[/B] and [B]suicide bombing[/B] - Where was and is the world when that happens? Are yall simply anti Semitics and/or hypocrites? - you don't really care about anybody's lives? Where were you when the genocide began in Turkey? A few years back! Where was the world criticizing Russia when they killed many innocent civilians in Georgia? Where is the Red Cross, we have a prisoner of war in a terrorist cage probably in the most anus conditions for the last 3 years and the UN don't give a fuck - yall don't REALLY care about anybody's lives. It's all because we're Israelis or Jews - Since we're that, we aren't allowed to protect ourselves right? We don't deserve [B]shit[/B]. So why the fuck say free Palestine when you can say bomb Israel - quicker and more direct way of getting rid of us.[/QUOTE] ?
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13412707] Where was the world criticizing Russia when they killed many innocent civilians in Georgia? [/QUOTE] The world did criticise Russia for that. Maybe you don't remember all of the world leaders telling Russia to stop? For the record I believe it was right that Russia took action, but it's a shame they weren't more careful where they dropped their bombs and that they didn't put a leash on the Ossetian militia forces. [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13412707] Where is the Red Cross, we have a prisoner of war in a terrorist cage probably in the most anus conditions for the last 3 years and the UN don't give a fuck - yall don't REALLY care about anybody's lives. [/QUOTE] Yeah we are all just Jew hating anti sematic fucks right? No, everybodies life is precious. [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13412707] It's all because we're Israelis or Jews - Since we're that, we aren't allowed to protect ourselves right? We don't deserve [B]shit[/B]. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13412707] So why the fuck say free Palestine when you can say bomb Israel - quicker and more direct way of getting rid of us. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13412707] Are yall simply anti Semitics and/or hypocrites? - you don't really care about anybody's lives? [/QUOTE] lol this is a joke right? You're just trolling? Please for you sake I hope you are trolling. The people condemning Israel here would do it if ANY country did it. What country A did here against country B was wrong. The people condemning Israel in this thread do not infact support Hamas. [b]UNDERSTAND THIS[/b]. This isn't about Israel destroying Hamas, this is about civilians being choked by a blockade and then being bombed with chemical weapons.
You've got to be a troll. Because I don't believe you're that fucking stupid. @ OzOMighty
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13414473] How about they won't choose a terrorist organization for government next elections.[/QUOTE] Government organisation that employs some terrorist tactics. Such as indiscriminately killing civilians, sound familiar? [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13414473] Because half of what's imported and out ported and what ever consists weapons and ammo and fuel and what ever. [/QUOTE] Where did you get this statistic? [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13414473] There's god damn evidence - the tunnels - digged by hamas and they say it's all for food, well food my ass, you and I both know what goes in and out ain't puttin food on their table, it's puttin weapons and their windows and rockets on the rooftops.[/QUOTE] Actually it is being used to put food on the table, aswell as for weapons. Contradiction much by the way? When did half suddenly become nothing. [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13414473] - When Israel opened the 'doors' for what ever do go in and out, hamas used that opportunity to fire upon the trucks running in - THE ISRAELI TRUCKS, we help their citizens - they don't want it, we can't sacrifice soldiers for this shit, we can for eliminating the hamas but you're poor people just keep mindlessly running in to the line of fire. [/QUOTE] Source for Hamas firing through aid checkpoints? You WILL give me a source for this. Obviously sitting in a UN designated refugee camp is running mindlessly into the line of fire. Fuck. What do you think these people are, zombies? Are you really that dense?
[QUOTE=SeamanStains;13414601]The world did criticise Russia for that. Maybe you don't remember all of the world leaders telling Russia to stop? For the record I believe it was right that Russia took action, but it's a shame they weren't more careful where they dropped their bombs and that they didn't put a leash on the Ossetian militia forces. Yeah we are all just Jew hating anti sematic fucks right? No, everybodies life is precious. [B]Of course they are - Why wasn't a thread created when there was a war on hezbollah ? Many Jews were killed daily because of the rocket fire. If I open a thread now on, Rocket fire on Israeli land Jews are being killed, mmmm the thread will barely reach the second page. Why is that? because through out history the world harassed Jews non stop and you know it and when you learn about it all it's so super infuriating, and more to that is the fact nobody gives a shit and don't tell me they do because what makes you think 50 years in history will change the mind of this god damn world and all of a sudden everybody will feel sorry for the Jews - that shit is a fuckin unsuccessful movie - you and I both know that and you can stop making yourself look like you're on both sides by saying our life is precious. We Jews here in Israel, and that Jew up in this page who said I'm crossing the line, you'd come here to Israel and say that - you wouldn't be considered Jewish over here - best believe that, I lived here for 18 god damn years and we all live on the same idea that our life is a few decades away from the edge. - fuck I'm talking so much I think I've just said a whole lot of shit unrelated to what you said to me.[/B] lol this is a joke right? You're just trolling? Please for you sake I hope you are trolling. The people condemning Israel here would do it if ANY country did it. What country A did here against country B was wrong. The people condemning Israel in this thread do not infact support Hamas. [b]UNDERSTAND THIS[/b]. This isn't about Israel destroying Hamas, this is about civilians being choked by a blockade and then being bombed with chemical weapons.[/QUOTE] Okay, I'll bet you this "I'll come all the way to your house and strangle my self while have my family stab me in the stomach just for your entertainment" if once we let Palestine do what ever they want, open docks, let trucks and what ever freely drive in and out - the amount of Israeli casualties, hostage situations, rockets landing on Israeli land, suicide bombings and all that wont jump so fuckin high it will float into space. How about I end it in sort of a reverse.. something: What I mean is, since the walls have been built and the IDF started choking who ever is in there, the suicide bombings STOPPED, no more hostage situations, no more shoot outs, no more any of that!! It stopped. [B] C O M P L E T L E Y[/B] . Now - and that too has stopped - rockets, don't land anymore in cities! [B]and you didn't fully answer what I said, what about the 8 years of suffering rockets and the 20 years of all that other shit didn't make the world shake? I won't call you anything this time. [/B] And you know how I know the world didn't give a shit - when MUNICH happened, all the athletes and the Olympics continued like that shit isn't happening under their noses. They're happy and continue it without the Israelis - There's more to that. What did [B]YOU [/B] semenstains do about it? what did you think of it? did you really start talking about it like this on forums or with friends. [QUOTE=SeamanStains;13414726]Government organisation that employs some terrorist tactics. Such as indiscriminately killing civilians, sound familiar? [B]they had elections and they CHOSE them to govern them. Do you not know this?[/B] Where did you get this statistic? [B]I don't know, Israel obviously doesn't count the ammo being shot at their people so I'm guessing. There is no statistic, I'm telling you facts but I don't go into the most specific details because I don't have to be here, I do this because I remember this forum for having a few nazis and anti Semitics and I'm 18 soon I got a music career on my mind, school, work, and the army is coming soon too, and I'm waiting to receive a mail of me joining one of the special units in the army - So.. I can just go but I have a obsession for you.. loved ones of mine :][/B] Actually it is being used to put food on the table, aswell as for weapons. Contradiction much by the way? When did half suddenly become nothing. [B]FUCK, how the FUCK did I mess this up? SHIT, SHIT, SHIT! No no, I meant.. fuck, you win. [/B] Source for Hamas firing through aid checkpoints? You WILL give me a source for this. It was on TV, how the fuck am I going to find it now for you? But does it not seem typical for terrorists to do that? Obviously sitting in a UN designated refugee camp is running mindlessly into the line of fire. Fuck. What do you think these people are, zombies? Are you really that dense? [B]They don't all sit in their UN camps, best believe that, give me half an hour I'll find you a video of what those you think sit in the camps are really doing (unwillingly or willingly I dont know)[/B][/QUOTE] And I don't know what a troll is but it seems like being a troll is better than I am now.
By the way I found that video I'm looking for - human shield thing - from 2:11 - Human shield - [B]but of course - it's all photoshopped[/B] Also before 2:11 It also shows what a youth! <-- I don't blame the kids, but I think with those minds (children minds) they now are willing to help the hamas - great, now kids are fighting us. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTGbP55HGi8[/media]
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13414473][B]conscript:[/B] How about they won't choose a terrorist organization for government next elections. Because half of what's imported and out ported and what ever consists weapons and ammo and fuel and what ever. There's god damn evidence - the tunnels - digged by hamas and they say it's all for food, well food my ass, you and I both know what goes in and out ain't puttin food on their table, it's puttin weapons and their windows and rockets on the rooftops. - When Israel opened the 'doors' for what ever do go in and out, hamas used that opportunity to fire upon the trucks running in - THE ISRAELI TRUCKS, we help their citizens - they don't want it, we can't sacrifice soldiers for this shit, we can for eliminating the hamas but you're poor people just keep mindlessly running in to the line of fire. And then the whole world goes "What the fuck is you doing?" "Why the fuck did you do that?" "How the fuck could you?" Now answer me, without any extra words, does Israel - like any other god damn country, has a right to protect ALL of it's citizens? no matter what religion, skin color, sex and what ever? And any intelligent person will say YES. Now when we punch hamas - citizens do get hurt and killed - we try to minimum the amount of innocent casualties but they are in the way all the time!! And if you say we kill them on purpose then I have nothing else to say to you - I won't start dropping big ass texts to change that thought - too pointless.[/QUOTE] Extreme parties gain in support in extreme conditions. Maybe they dug tunnels because imports and exports to Gaza are prohibited? It's hardly a surprise they fire on israeli trucks in gaza. angered people care little if the problem that causes their anger is not solved. a good analogy is someone kicking you out of your house without your possessions and giving you some money to live on the streets. should i be grateful for their help after they kicked me out of my house? israel has a right to protect it's citizens, but that does not give it it the right to be belligerent. they seem to be really ignorant or stubborn as to why gazans are so angered, then put the blame on them when israelis die. then with their ignorance or stubbornness they think bombing cities and further infuriating angry past reconciliation will solve the problem. [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13415736]By the way I found that video I'm looking for - human shield thing - from 2:11 - Human shield - [B]but of course - it's all photoshopped[/B] Also before 2:11 It also shows what a youth! <-- I don't blame the kids, but I think with those minds (children minds) they now are willing to help the hamas - great, now kids are fighting us. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTGbP55HGi8[/media][/QUOTE] that is horribly wrong but still not surprising, an extreme party using extreme methods. although, in their eyes, they believe this is mobilizing a future generating to fight for palestine. but, talking about the rights of children is ridiculous when you bomb them indiscriminately.
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13415018]What I mean is, since the walls have been built and the IDF started choking who ever is in there, the suicide bombings STOPPED, no more hostage situations, no more shoot outs, no more any of that!! It stopped. [B] C O M P L E T L E Y[/B] . Now - and that too has stopped - rockets, don't land anymore in cities![/QUOTE] yes i guess the only way for the jews to be truly free of suffering would be to simply wipe out the palestinian people
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13414473]Why do you think we do that on purpose? If you do then I won't argue with that, that's clearly pulling ideas out your ass.[/QUOTE] Because you got told the exact coordinates of the school and used WP (which is illegal at these circumstance by the way) even when you knew there were civilians inside. [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13414473] - Turkey done a genocide on it's minority a few years back - whoops killed some people on purpose.[/QUOTE] So if someone else commits genocide, it’s okay for you to do it as well? [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13414473]I'm speaking as how the fuck does the whole world think we commit war crimes?! a few years ago 2 soldiers accidentally got trapped within Gaza in their car and they were pulled out, stabbed and thrown out the 2nd floor and were stomped on and there's a picture of a kid with blood on his hands showing the camera - nobody gives a shit today, a Palestinian kid got caught in a fire fight that causes a bigass earthquake doesn't it? Though a family in a house (Jews) had 4 terrorists enter their house the mother was killed on the entry and the father was shot infront of the daughters eyes and the daughters face got her shit slammed out by the ass of the gun and died instantly then they ran outside killed 2 police officers, the terrorists later got killed, 1 captured, released for a prisoner and is a god damn hero to the radical Islam nation.[/QUOTE] Maybe, just maybe, it’s because you do it in a far, far greater scale. Of course all the atrocities committed by the Hamas are horrible and these should be ceased, but that still doesn’t give you the right to bomb schools, clinics and other civilian structures. [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13414473]Yea right, we've flattened Gaza, no more buildings, - we bombed the whole area, 50 times killed every fuckin human on that area, carpet bombed one more time just to check if there are no survivors. and again 1 more time for the holidays and finished the war [/QUOTE] You’ve destroyed a lot homes, and killed a lot of civilians, so that statement, humorous as it may attempt to be, isn’t a major overstatement. [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13414473]I love you too.[/QUOTE] Awww [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13414473]what the fuck is strawman and sure you're not that's why I ask again a question below:[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man[/url] [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13414473]Why didn't you care when Israeli citizens were dying huh? Why didn't you make a thread on the forum saying "rocket fire on Israel" and talking about the poor Israelis dying and having to live with rockets ruining their day every day for the last 8 fucking years! and all the fucking sniping and suicide bombing - Where was and is the world when that happens? Are yall simply anti Semitics and/or hypocrites? - you don't really care about anybody's lives? Where were you when the genocide began in Turkey? A few years back! Where was the world criticizing Russia when they killed many innocent civilians in Georgia? Where is the Red Cross, we have a prisoner of war in a terrorist cage probably in the most anus conditions for the last 3 years and the UN don't give a fuck - yall don't REALLY care about anybody's lives. It's all because we're Israelis or Jews - Since we're that, we aren't allowed to protect ourselves right? We don't deserve shit. So why the fuck say free Palestine when you can say bomb Israel - quicker and more direct way of getting rid of us. [/QUOTE] I believe most of this is answered above. Israel is currently not under any major threat; the Palestinians on the other hand, are suffering greatly under this conflict.
[QUOTE=Conscript;13415930]Extreme parties gain in support in extreme conditions. Maybe they dug tunnels because imports and exports to Gaza are prohibited? [B]Maybe they weren't prohibited if part of the imports and exports weren't healthy for Israeli citizens?[/B] It's hardly a surprise they fire on israeli trucks in gaza. angered people care little if the problem that causes their anger is not solved. [B]And what is that problem? You think it started from the choking? Pfft, get back to those history books son, before the choking it was the borders, Israel gave back some land I don't remember how much but Hamas just used to gain distance of firing - way to go Israel, and before that the Jews were to be driven into see, now am I the only one who doesn't see this shit happening? and back to today, why do we choke? because we have no choice, we're in war, our lives or theirs? I'm guessing our lives, to us, is more valuable, you wanna make a change and change the way they live, go to the UN, tell them to send their fake ass army force to the borders and tell them to do the job better, see if they have a better solution. in the meanwhile I see you care more of palestine people than Israeli people. [/B] a good analogy is someone kicking you out of your house without your possessions and giving you some money to live on the streets. should i be grateful for their help after they kicked me out of my house? [B]What? I didn't get that - who kicked?[/B] israel has a right to protect it's citizens, [B]O Rly?[/B] but that does not give it it the right to be belligerent. they seem to be really ignorant or stubborn as to why gazans are so angered, then put the blame on them when israelis die. The reason Gazans are so angered? they're angered we're here in the first place, since more than 60 years ago. Seriously, YOU AND THEM are ignorant to why I and us ISRAELIS are angered. We've been taking so much shit from gaza ever since this country was established we've been patiently waiting - the world didn't give a fuck, as usual, and when we punched them - straight uppercut - right up the chin - blood came out - well this explains it: [img]http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9591/1125418870xe1.jpg[/img] [B]Yes I've posted this already[/B] then with their ignorance or stubbornness they think bombing cities and further infuriating angry past reconciliation will solve the problem. [B]hamas operates within cities\residential areas, we minimize civilian casualties even though you reply with 'bullshit - we can't make hamas operate somewhere else - so yes we purposely bomb people - if we'd wanna do that, casualties would at least half the population they are now. ROFL they say they've gone through a [I]holocaust[/I], those morons don't know [I]holocaust[/I] and I don't wish them to know it.[/B] that is horribly wrong but still not surprising, an extreme party using extreme methods. although, in their eyes, they believe this is mobilizing a future generating to fight for palestine. but, talking about the rights of children is ridiculous when you bomb them indiscriminately. [B]they commit war crimes - I tell you that, what you say is, yes yes you're right BUT ISRAEL! ISRAEL IS THE WORST OF THEM ALL. Please, if you'd really care about what hamas does you wouldn't say that nonsenses. We target children? yea right. Hamas also uses schools as boobey traps for soldiers[/B] [/QUOTE]
OzOmighty you're a great troll.
He is a great warrior of truth and justice.
[QUOTE=Taishu;13416723]Because you got told the exact coordinates of the school and used WP (which is illegal at these circumstance by the way) even when you knew there were civilians inside. [B]who told us? WP is allowed but not in civilians right? hamas believes what to us is stupid but to them sacred, and that is death, they don't say 72 virgins as a, in case you die, here's sorry gift, so some might stay in those buildings for the sake of hamas's war and some might not believe that and hamas make them stay inside, you don't know what's going on.[/B] So if someone else commits genocide, it’s okay for you to do it as well? [B]Why do you pull words out of my mouth? Did I ask why is it ok for them to commit genocide and for us not? No bro, I said why did the world not know of this, or know and not all of a sudden cry for the people, I mean, they're muslims too! and they were purposely killed y'all saying Israel purposely does it, well fuck that.[/B] Maybe, just maybe, it’s because you do it in a far, far greater scale. Of course all the atrocities committed by the Hamas are horrible and these should be ceased, but that still doesn’t give you the right to bomb schools, clinics and other civilian structures. [B]you think we bomb schools as some super tactic to disable the hamas? the hamas don't give a fuck, that's why they stack their weapons in mosques which is a holy place and I don't know how they dare but I guess either Islam is based on bullshit or they aren't muslims. They also operate around those areas to make the world make Israel stop! It's working? you and you're friends here are proof! "Jew! Tell your army to stop those monstrous acts!" Oh please...[/B] You’ve destroyed a lot homes, and killed a lot of civilians, so that statement, humorous as it may attempt to be, isn’t a major overstatement. [B]answer is above[/B] Awww [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man[/url] [B]I won't bother reading all that - seems useless to me[/B] I believe most of this is answered above. Israel is currently not under any major threat; the Palestinians on the other hand, are suffering greatly under this conflict. [B]No threat? That's the culture of denial, my friend. Seeing terrorism as a non-threat is repeating nazi germany, world war 2 hasn't passed 100 years and it's already repeating itself. [IMG]http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7229/n1236184750300464503594fg5.jpg[/IMG] And don't say I'm overacting, because a good number radical muslims exist in this world and 1 of them has a nuclear power and it's no joke and there's going to be a nuclear holocaust[/B] [/QUOTE] It's easy to deny, It's hard to act. [I][B]"The only way for evil to triumph, is good people to do nothing"[/B][/I]
[QUOTE=Captain Communism;13416546]yes i guess the only way for the jews to be truly free of suffering would be to simply wipe out the palestinian people[/QUOTE] You said that, not me, good night, you won't hear my replies to you.
[i]Maybe they weren't prohibited if part of the imports and exports weren't healthy for Israeli citizens?[/i] I don't think being stubborn is healthy for israeli citizens either. [i]And what is that problem? You think it started from the choking? Pfft, get back to those history books son, before the choking it was the borders, Israel gave back some land I don't remember how much but Hamas just used to gain distance of firing - way to go Israel, and before that the Jews were to be driven into see, now am I the only one who doesn't see this shit happening? and back to today, why do we choke? because we have no choice, we're in war, our lives or theirs? I'm guessing our lives, to us, is more valuable, you wanna make a change and change the way they live, go to the UN, tell them to send their fake ass army force to the borders and tell them to do the job better, see if they have a better solution. in the meanwhile I see you care more of palestine people than Israeli people.[/i] I care move for palestinian people then Israeli people because they're caught up in all this. They're the ones that had their homes bulldozed and pushed into another practical warsaw ghetto. They're the angry ones, because the land they lived on for generations was pushed aside by people who believed a book should determine who lives where. Now, we have understandably angry palestinians supposedly being the aggressors here, while Israel claims to be defending itself. [i]What? I didn't get that - who kicked?[/i] Some guy with justified claims on your house because a book said so. [i]The reason Gazans are so angered? they're angered we're here in the first place, since more than 60 years ago. Seriously, YOU AND THEM are ignorant to why I and us ISRAELIS are angered. We've been taking so much shit from gaza ever since this country was established we've been patiently waiting - the world didn't give a fuck, as usual, and when we punched them - straight uppercut - right up the chin - blood came out - well this explains it:[/i] i'm not sure what you're implying here with "they're angered we're here in the first place" but it really sounds like you believe gazans are angered because israeli's are jewish. [i]hamas operates within cities\residential areas, we minimize civilian casualties even though you reply with 'bullshit - we can't make hamas operate somewhere else - so yes we purposely bomb people - if we'd wanna do that, casualties would at least half the population they are now. ROFL they say they've gone through a holocaust, those morons don't know holocaust and I don't wish them to know it.[/i] that wasn't my point. israel is too stubborn/ignorant to attempt anything else but bomb cities. [i]they commit war crimes - I tell you that, what you say is, yes yes you're right BUT ISRAEL! ISRAEL IS THE WORST OF THEM ALL. Please, if you'd really care about what hamas does you wouldn't say that nonsenses. We target children? yea right. Hamas also uses schools as boobey traps for soldiers[/i] you seem to think im some kind of hamas supporter so you constantly bring up their war crimes as justification for israel somehow, or you have a liking to strawman arguments. [QUOTE=Chippays;13416908]OzOmighty you're a great troll.[/QUOTE] trolls don't really believe what they're saying.
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13417040]who told us? WP is allowed but not in civilians right? hamas believes what to us is stupid but to them sacred, and that is death, they don't say 72 virgins as a, in case you die, here's sorry gift, so some might stay in those buildings for the sake of hamas's war and some might not believe that and hamas make them stay inside, you don't know what's going on.[/QUOTE] Okay, I hardly understood any of that, but I’ll try to answer anyway. Who told you? The UN I think? [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2009/jan/21/gaza-israelandthepalestinians[/url] And don’t give me crap about how the Guardian isn’t a reliable news source. WP or White Phosphor is only allowed as a smoke screen and is not to be used in civilian areas, such as cities or villages. I didn’t understand the rest. [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13417040]Why do you pull words out of my mouth? Did I ask why is it ok for them to commit genocide and for us not? No bro, I said why did the world not know of this, or know and not all of a sudden cry for the people, I mean, they're muslims too! and they were purposely killed y'all saying Israel purposely does it, well fuck that.[/QUOTE] What exact genocide are we talking about? The Armenian? Again I don’t understand most of your post. Also, it’s “put words in my mouth” not “pull words out of my mouth.” [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13417040]you think we bomb schools as some super tactic to disable the hamas? the hamas don't give a fuck, that's why they stack their weapons in mosques which is a holy place and I don't know how they dare but I guess either Islam is based on bullshit or they aren't muslims. They also operate around those areas to make the world make Israel stop! It's working? you and you're friends here are proof! "Jew! Tell your army to stop those monstrous acts!" Oh please...[/QUOTE] I have two theories as to why you terrorize the local populace. A) You’re trying to oppress them through fear to make them more complacent, and/or B) by using extreme measures like this, you raise their hatred for you, making them attack you in return, which results in you being able to “confiscate” more land with your “security walls”. Also, notice how I’ve never called you "Jew!" I don’t give a shit about which religion you follow or what race you are. [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13417040]I won't bother reading all that - seems useless to me[/QUOTE] Yet you keep using it. [QUOTE=OzOMighty;13417040]No threat? That's the culture of denial, my friend. Seeing terrorism as a non-threat is repeating nazi germany, world war 2 hasn't passed 100 years and it's already repeating itself. And don't say I'm overacting, because a good number radical muslims exist in this world and 1 of them has a nuclear power and it's no joke and there's going to be a nuclear holocaust[/QUOTE] You are overreacting. Do you know the likelihood of dieing in a terrorist attack? Do you know how ridiculously low it is? And Nazi Germany is an exact opposite example of what you’re trying to prove. Hitler amassed popularity by creating fear and hatred amongst the Germans against a non existing threat. Through this, he was able to make people give up their freedoms and adapt fascism, for a fake sense of security. Kind of like how Muslims/Arabs are displayed as terrorists, and that 9/11 was used as an excuse for great deal semi fascist agendas. How many innocent Palestinians have died in comparison to Israeli civilians? This isn’t war; it’s a god damn slaughter.
[QUOTE=OzOMighty;13417136]you won't hear my replies to you.[/QUOTE] thank god for that.
Anyone who doesn't support Israel and agree with Israels actions during the conflict is an anti-sematic nazi terrorist. It all makes sense now.
[QUOTE=Conscript;13418104][i]Maybe they weren't prohibited if part of the imports and exports weren't healthy for Israeli citizens?[/i] I don't think being stubborn is healthy for israeli citizens either. [B]Once we became stubborn the amount of Israeli civilian deaths lowered dramatically - Suicide bombings ceased - take that as an example - we don't hear that on the news no more.[/B] [i]And what is that problem? You think it started from the choking? Pfft, get back to those history books son, before the choking it was the borders, Israel gave back some land I don't remember how much but Hamas just used to gain distance of firing - way to go Israel, and before that the Jews were to be driven into see, now am I the only one who doesn't see this shit happening? and back to today, why do we choke? because we have no choice, we're in war, our lives or theirs? I'm guessing our lives, to us, is more valuable, you wanna make a change and change the way they live, go to the UN, tell them to send their fake ass army force to the borders and tell them to do the job better, see if they have a better solution. in the meanwhile I see you care more of palestine people than Israeli people.[/i] I care move for palestinian people then Israeli people because they're caught up in all this. They're the ones that had their homes bulldozed and pushed into another practical warsaw ghetto. They're the angry ones, because the land they lived on for generations was pushed aside by people who believed a book should determine who lives where. Now, we have understandably angry palestinians supposedly being the aggressors here, while Israel claims to be defending itself. [B]We're the ones who had restaurants, hospitals, schools, homes, buses, clinics and others blown up - what about that? warsaw ghetto my ass, you don't know how it looks like, don't take the world war 2 holocaust events and compare them to the Arabs, it's so dramatically different than what's going on in gaza. + at the bottom you'll see my answer regarding thr BOOK.[/B] [i]What? I didn't get that - who kicked?[/i] Some guy with justified claims on your house because a book said so. [B]Let's forget the book and just say we kicked their asses and thank us for at least giving them the money, we don't owe them shit, we owe the Israeli Arabs what a democratic country has to offer - Gaza isn't supposed to be our responsibility - they're just abusing their rights and using imports and exports for weapons too and I agree with Israel, we won't take that shit - got a problem? come commit a suicide bombing yourself, see if it makes anything at all change, the gazans think it does. - By the way - look at how Israeli arabs prosper, and they can import weapons too, but they don't and they prosper.[/B] [i]The reason Gazans are so angered? they're angered we're here in the first place, since more than 60 years ago. Seriously, YOU AND THEM are ignorant to why I and us ISRAELIS are angered. We've been taking so much shit from gaza ever since this country was established we've been patiently waiting - the world didn't give a fuck, as usual, and when we punched them - straight uppercut - right up the chin - blood came out - well this explains it:[/i] i'm not sure what you're implying here with "they're angered we're here in the first place" but it really sounds like you believe gazans are angered because israeli's are jewish. [img]http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/6848/27964452abea3b9073546d3wm5.jpg[/img] [img]http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8004/n218101043305528621418xf9.jpg[/img] [i]hamas operates within cities\residential areas, we minimize civilian casualties even though you reply with 'bullshit - we can't make hamas operate somewhere else - so yes we purposely bomb people - if we'd wanna do that, casualties would at least half the population they are now. ROFL they say they've gone through a holocaust, those morons don't know holocaust and I don't wish them to know it.[/i] that wasn't my point. israel is too stubborn/ignorant to attempt anything else but bomb cities. [B]Go back a few pages read what I said about that - If you think we just close our eyes and bomb cities hoping for something good to happen.. Well, that's what you think, and we're all allowed to think what we want but sommeee people... make up stuff to believe what THEY say is right...........[/B] [i]they commit war crimes - I tell you that, what you say is, yes yes you're right BUT ISRAEL! ISRAEL IS THE WORST OF THEM ALL. Please, if you'd really care about what hamas does you wouldn't say that nonsenses. We target children? yea right. Hamas also uses schools as boobey traps for soldiers[/i] you seem to think im some kind of hamas supporter so you constantly bring up their war crimes as justification for israel somehow, or you have a liking to strawman arguments. [B]No, I don't I bring up their war crimes to see what your reaction is and here's a joke for you Two radical muslims argue about a plan to killing Jews and a bar anywhere else in the world, and one of them says, let's create a plan which the results will be 1,000,000 Jews and 1 hot blonde chick dead. Then some non radical muslim comes up and asks, why a hot blonde chick? and the radical muslim turns to the other radical muslim and says: see? I told you nobody would care about th 1,000,000 Jews.[/B] trolls don't really believe what they're saying.[/QUOTE] [B]Oh my god I'm a troll somebody help me[/B] You know what, let me just answer 1 thing that you said - the book, right, so let's put all the reasons aside for why Jewish people deserve a home they've been waiting for a long time - Israel. Let's just go with the Jews went hard ass on the arabs around them, conquered the land, established a country, fucked every arab in the ass, and is now maintaining it's existence. [B]When Jews conquer it isn't okay, when everybody else does it, WHEN AMERICA KILLS OVER 100 MILLION to establish a country, then it's ok, when meanie Jews kill a few arabs, and 1200 IS A FEW COMPARED TO WHAT WE SUFFERED AND 100 MILLION.[/B] it seems pointless to talk to you anymore.
[QUOTE=Taishu;13418317]Okay, I hardly understood any of that, but I&#8217;ll try to answer anyway. Who told you? The UN I think? [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2009/jan/21/gaza-israelandthepalestinians[/url] And don&#8217;t give me crap about how the Guardian isn&#8217;t a reliable news source. WP or White Phosphor is only allowed as a smoke screen and is not to be used in civilian areas, such as cities or villages. I didn&#8217;t understand the rest. [B]the Radical Islam believes in DEATH as a sacred.. like, a mitzva, a good thing you do for good- to die, and in the process take some lives with you - now you see \ you know the brainwashing that's happening, - You saw that video right? last page, with the human shields, that's what i'm telling you. They're human shields, and either the hamas makes them stay or they stay because they want to do it for they're allah and what ever beliefs. I believe you know the story of 72 virgins right?[/B] What exact genocide are we talking about? The Armenian? Again I don&#8217;t understand most of your post. [B]Yes, the Armenian, what about the Christian muslims in Egypt who live in a city of trash - literally - and being opressed and kidnapping their women by other muslims? Why isn't the world shaking for those? they're Arabs too, get the fuck off our shoulders and speak for them too.[/B] Also, it&#8217;s &#8220;put words in my mouth&#8221; not &#8220;pull words out of my mouth.&#8221; [B]Sorry.[/B] I have two theories as to why you terrorize the local populace. A) You&#8217;re trying to oppress them through fear to make them more complacent, and/or B) by using extreme measures like this, you raise their hatred for you, making them attack you in return, which results in you being able to &#8220;confiscate&#8221; more land with your &#8220;security walls&#8221;. Also, notice how I&#8217;ve never called you "Jew!" I don&#8217;t give a shit about which religion you follow or what race you are. [B]So again, I'm not going to argue with you claiming we do this shit on purpose.[/B] Yet you keep using it. You are overreacting. Do you know the likelihood of dieing in a terrorist attack? Do you know how ridiculously low it is? And Nazi Germany is an exact opposite example of what you&#8217;re trying to prove. Hitler amassed popularity by creating fear and hatred amongst the Germans against a non existing threat. Through this, he was able to make people give up their freedoms and adapt fascism, for a fake sense of security. Kind of like how Muslims/Arabs are displayed as terrorists, and that 9/11 was used as an excuse for great deal semi fascist agendas. [B]I'm not overreacting - how about you really do take an hour out of your time to view this video about Radical Islam? Most of those who speak in the video aren't Jewish[/B] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMLJJEDDDGc[/media] [B]watch the others too - that was part 1[/B] How many innocent Palestinians have died in comparison to Israeli civilians? This isn&#8217;t war; it&#8217;s a god damn slaughter. [B]Start counting - I'll find another list of from 99 till today Read how they were killed - I'll also find the amount of Israeli dead people from before 93[/B] [url]http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-+Obstacle+to+Peace/Palestinian+terror+before+2000/Fatal+Terrorist+Attacks+in+Israel+Since+the+DOP+-S.htm[/url] [B]Here's the complete list, just lest explained[/B] [url]http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/terrisraelsum.html[/url] [B]You didn't say in what amount of time - You said they have more dead than us? should I also go before israel was established? when palastinans attacked Jewish settlements ?[/B] [/QUOTE]
[i]Once we became stubborn the amount of Israeli civilian deaths lowered dramatically - Suicide bombings ceased - take that as an example - we don't hear that on the news no more.[/i] It's the opposite, once you became stubborn, gazans became angry. More Israeli's die. We're the ones who had restaurants, hospitals, schools, homes, buses, clinics and others blown up - what about that? warsaw ghetto my ass, you don't know how it looks like, don't take the world war 2 holocaust events and compare them to the Arabs, it's so dramatically different than what's going on in gaza. + at the bottom you'll see my answer regarding thr BOOK. Gaza had a few of those leveled too, just not by suicide bombers. And yes, it is a practical warsaw ghetto. Gazans are herded into there and they're restricted to go anywhere. Food supplies are cut to virtually nothing because of Israel's blockade. The same goes for medical supplies and electricity. As a result, the average gazan has horrible health care, below adequate calorie intake per day, and no electricity for basic things like a toilet. I have mentioned nothing about the holocaust, only you have. I'm only pointing out the interesting parallels between the warsaw ghetto and the gaza strip. [i]Let's forget the book and just say we kicked their asses and thank us for at least giving them the money, we don't owe them shit, we owe the Israeli Arabs what a democratic country has to offer - Gaza isn't supposed to be our responsibility - they're just abusing their rights and using imports and exports for weapons too and I agree with Israel, we won't take that shit - got a problem? come commit a suicide bombing yourself, see if it makes anything at all change, the gazans think it does. - By the way - look at how Israeli arabs prosper, and they can import weapons too, but they don't and they prosper.[/i] this is the attitude that has gazans infuriated. i hope maybe you'll stop scratching your head now. [i]Go back a few pages read what I said about that - If you think we just close our eyes and bomb cities hoping for something good to happen.. Well, that's what you think, and we're all allowed to think what we want but sommeee people... make up stuff to believe what THEY say is right...........[/i] Prove to me Israel doesn't persistently resort to violence to control gaza. [i]No, I don't I bring up their war crimes to see what your reaction is and here's a joke for you Two radical muslims argue about a plan to killing Jews and a bar anywhere else in the world, and one of them says, let's create a plan which the results will be 1,000,000 Jews and 1 hot blonde chick dead. Then some non radical muslim comes up and asks, why a hot blonde chick? and the radical muslim turns to the other radical muslim and says: see? I told you nobody would care about th 1,000,000 Jews.[/i] it's ignorant to say gazans hate israel because they're jewish. [i]You know what, let me just answer 1 thing that you said - the book, right, so let's put all the reasons aside for why Jewish people deserve a home they've been waiting for a long time - Israel. Let's just go with the Jews went hard ass on the arabs around them, conquered the land, established a country, fucked every arab in the ass, and is now maintaining it's existence. When Jews conquer it isn't okay, when everybody else does it, WHEN AMERICA KILLS OVER 100 MILLION to establish a country, then it's ok, when meanie Jews kill a few arabs, and 1200 IS A FEW COMPARED TO WHAT WE SUFFERED AND 100 MILLION.[/i] yes, let's put aside all the [i]idealist[/i] and ridiculous reasons why jewish people deserve a home. i wonder where you're pulling this double standard supposedly i have out of your ass. i don't support the US nor am I against it. the things early american settlers did to the native americans is abysmal (and consequently, we see a hostile reaction from them parallel to what gazans have done). so are you trying to say that since the americans did it, israelis can do it too? where are you getting that 100 million number anyway, i'd like to know since a lot of people tell me communism has killed 100 million people. it's terrible how you juggle around death tolls like they're coins.
[QUOTE=Conscript;13430508][i]Once we became stubborn the amount of Israeli civilian deaths lowered dramatically - Suicide bombings ceased - take that as an example - we don't hear that on the news no more.[/i] It's the opposite, once you became stubborn, gazans became angry. More Israeli's die. [B]No, less. They mostly ruin property now, but now we've become more stubborn, and rockets don't land in Israel anymore - even though the hamas is rebuilding. Don't read from BBC - they're full of shit.[/B] We're the ones who had restaurants, hospitals, schools, homes, buses, clinics and others blown up - what about that? warsaw ghetto my ass, you don't know how it looks like, don't take the world war 2 holocaust events and compare them to the Arabs, it's so dramatically different than what's going on in gaza. + at the bottom you'll see my answer regarding thr BOOK. Gaza had a few of those leveled too, just not by suicide bombers. And yes, it is a practical warsaw ghetto. Gazans are herded into there and they're restricted to go anywhere. Food supplies are cut to virtually nothing because of Israel's blockade. The same goes for medical supplies and electricity. As a result, the average gazan has horrible health care, below adequate calorie intake per day, and no electricity for basic things like a toilet. I have mentioned nothing about the holocaust, only you have. I'm only pointing out the interesting parallels between the warsaw ghetto and the gaza strip. [B]No, food IS being sent into gaza, door's are open and the world IS sending food inside, WE supply the electricity and WE supply the clean water that are from OUR land. How about you try this, instead of talking none sense about Israel and blaming them for the crisis in gaza, how about you go to the root of the problem, which is hamas, and I repeat what I keep saying. Before the wall and the 'stubbornness' - before HAMAS, there was no wall, and no 'stubbornness' like toady, then... guess what? HAMAS was elected, and they started engaging Israel even MORE then the usual, and ISRAEL has the right to protect itself, so a wall wasn't enough, for example, the girl who was supposed to go to a HOSPITAL in ISRAEL, (full of JEWS - never forget that we're the target) with a bomb around her waist to blow up in the doctor's face, we took care of them, and they blew it too, good job GAZA! so we started to be 'stubborn'. I guess we have to do something, I don't want my people killed because of some ignorant bastards with a life goal - to kill as many Jews as possible. So we started cutting the electricity off too - every time the rockets hit Israel - so here's another reason why the root of the problem is HAMAS, because they DONT care about their citizens, they DO use human shields, they DON'T care about the situation, they DO use the situation against Israel too. What's so FUCKIN hard to understand that the HAMAS is the root, and quit blaming us for everything bad they've done to us?? WE ARE REPLYING to THEIR ACTS.[/B] [i]Let's forget the book and just say we kicked their asses and thank us for at least giving them the money, we don't owe them shit, we owe the Israeli Arabs what a democratic country has to offer - Gaza isn't supposed to be our responsibility - they're just abusing their rights and using imports and exports for weapons too and I agree with Israel, we won't take that shit - got a problem? come commit a suicide bombing yourself, see if it makes anything at all change, the gazans think it does. - By the way - look at how Israeli arabs prosper, and they can import weapons too, but they don't and they prosper.[/i] this is the attitude that has gazans infuriated. i hope maybe you'll stop scratching your head now. [B]Well the gazans started it, I'm not going to open a history lesson just for you now okay? [/B] [i]Go back a few pages read what I said about that - If you think we just close our eyes and bomb cities hoping for something good to happen.. Well, that's what you think, and we're all allowed to think what we want but sommeee people... make up stuff to believe what THEY say is right...........[/i] Prove to me Israel doesn't persistently resort to violence to control gaza. [B]When rockets hit Israel, we cut off electricity for a few hours... wait before I give many examples, gives us some ideas of how to control them. If you're so brilliant and super intelligent and you know EVERYTHING that goes on in Israel, in our minds and our acts.[/B] [i]No, I don't I bring up their war crimes to see what your reaction is and here's a joke for you Two radical muslims argue about a plan to killing Jews and a bar anywhere else in the world, and one of them says, let's create a plan which the results will be 1,000,000 Jews and 1 hot blonde chick dead. Then some non radical muslim comes up and asks, why a hot blonde chick? and the radical muslim turns to the other radical muslim and says: see? I told you nobody would care about th 1,000,000 Jews.[/i] it's ignorant to say gazans hate israel because they're jewish. [B]Well, you said it yourself, they have a reason to be angered, and I wonder what they want to do with Israel, and in their own words "WE WILL PUSH THE JEWS INTO THE SEA" - it's not ignorant - it's straight facts. Ignorant is hating Israel for being Jews.[/B] [i]You know what, let me just answer 1 thing that you said - the book, right, so let's put all the reasons aside for why Jewish people deserve a home they've been waiting for a long time - Israel. Let's just go with the Jews went hard ass on the arabs around them, conquered the land, established a country, fucked every arab in the ass, and is now maintaining it's existence. When Jews conquer it isn't okay, when everybody else does it, WHEN AMERICA KILLS OVER 100 MILLION to establish a country, then it's ok, when meanie Jews kill a few arabs, and 1200 IS A FEW COMPARED TO WHAT WE SUFFERED AND 100 MILLION.[/i] yes, let's put aside all the [i]idealist[/i] and ridiculous reasons why jewish people deserve a home. i wonder where you're pulling this double standard supposedly i have out of your ass. i don't support the US nor am I against it. the things early american settlers did to the native americans is abysmal (and consequently, we see a hostile reaction from them parallel to what gazans have done). so are you trying to say that since the americans did it, israelis can do it too? where are you getting that 100 million number anyway, i'd like to know since a lot of people tell me communism has killed 100 million people. it's terrible how you juggle around death tolls like they're coins. [B] Again, just like when you said I'm bringing up war crimes of others to justify our acts. I'm using these events - just like the armanian genocide, why didn't the world shake when the armanians were slaughtered ? by the muslims by the way - where were you? where was the thread? the earth shakes when something bad happens to muslims, not to anybody else - Arab christians in egypt live in trash - literally, Armenians had their genocide - the muslims and the rest of the world doesn't say much about that do they? Do you? You just come at Israel when we do something wrong, and that shit was accidental - part of the war. It's easy to blame Jews for anything at all, I mean, it's been done so much for the last few centuries. [/B] [/QUOTE]
Sometimes , in life , it happens that you cannot tell who is the evil guy and who is the good guy. Simply because it's not that easy in real life. It's not as clear as fox news propaganda.
[i]No, less. They mostly ruin property now, but now we've become more stubborn, and rockets don't land in Israel anymore - even though the hamas is rebuilding. Don't read from BBC - they're full of shit.[/i] You've been stubborn ever since you've thought constantly attacking gaza would solve anything. Rockets may not land anymore, but they will, because the will behind those who use them still exists, and will be stronger then ever because Israel's stubborness constantly asserts we should keep bombing them, instead of actually trying to solve the problem. [i]No, food IS being sent into gaza, door's are open and the world IS sending food inside, WE supply the electricity and WE supply the clean water that are from OUR land.[/i] What's your source that blockade has been lifted, and that Israel supplies gaza with fuel for their power plant? And I'm aware that gazans are being given some supplies by Israel, but only because Israel is occupying them, it's a legal responsibility. But this has not solved the humanitarian crisis in gaza in the least. [i]How about you try this, instead of talking none sense about Israel and blaming them for the crisis in gaza, how about you go to the root of the problem, which is hamas, and I repeat what I keep saying.[/i] The root of all problems isn't Hamas, you should realize that when palestinians elected them. It's the anger of gazans for being treated like animals and pushed out of their homes because a book said so. [i]Before the wall and the 'stubbornness' - before HAMAS, there was no wall, and no 'stubbornness' like toady, then... guess what? HAMAS was elected, and they started engaging Israel even MORE then the usual, and ISRAEL has the right to protect itself, so a wall wasn't enough, for example, the girl who was supposed to go to a HOSPITAL in ISRAEL, (full of JEWS - never forget that we're the target) with a bomb around her waist to blow up in the doctor's face, we took care of them, and they blew it too, good job GAZA! so we started to be 'stubborn'. I guess we have to do something, I don't want my people killed because of some ignorant bastards with a life goal - to kill as many Jews as possible. So we started cutting the electricity off too - every time the rockets hit Israel - so here's another reason why the root of the problem is HAMAS, because they DONT care about their citizens, they DO use human shields, they DON'T care about the situation, they DO use the situation against Israel too. What's so FUCKIN hard to understand that the HAMAS is the root, and quit blaming us for everything bad they've done to us?? WE ARE REPLYING to THEIR ACTS.[/i] read above. [i]Well the gazans started it, I'm not going to open a history lesson just for you now okay?[/i] it started with the bulldozing. i don't believe gazans are the ones that did that. [i]When rockets hit Israel, we cut off electricity for a few hours... wait before I give many examples, gives us some ideas of how to control them. If you're so brilliant and super intelligent and you know EVERYTHING that goes on in Israel, in our minds and our acts.[/i] israel didn't just cut off electricity, they have no power to. but, they have been, for quite a while, blocking fuel imports for gaza's only power plant. [i]Well, you said it yourself, they have a reason to be angered, and I wonder what they want to do with Israel, and in their own words "WE WILL PUSH THE JEWS INTO THE SEA" - it's not ignorant - it's straight facts. Ignorant is hating Israel for being Jews.[/i] again, pull your fucking head out of your ass. gazans do not hate israel because they're jewish. hamas may, but they're only in power because of gazans anger. either way, it matters latter as that hardly justifies being stubborn. [i]I'm using these events - just like the armanian genocide, why didn't the world shake when the armanians were slaughtered ? by the muslims by the way - where were you? where was the thread? the earth shakes when something bad happens to muslims, not to anybody else - Arab christians in egypt live in trash - literally, Armenians had their genocide - the muslims and the rest of the world doesn't say much about that do they? Do you? You just come at Israel when we do something wrong, and that shit was accidental - part of the war. It's easy to blame Jews for anything at all, I mean, it's been done so much for the last few centuries. [/i] what? muslims didn't massacre armenians, the ottomans did. even if that was true; what are you trying to say? That muslims are animals and have no intellectual capacity (ironically it reminds me of you)? the history of your posts certainly seem so. i wish i could understand your thinking. maybe we could get somewhere.
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