• Israeli lobby to Congress: Make Israel aid exempt from sequestration and budget cuts
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What the hell Does the AIPAC want to secretly make USA go bankrupt and fail as a country or something
[QUOTE=Lolkork;40354778]The living standards in Israel are quite high, its a paradise compared to many countries.[/QUOTE] Perhaps other countries could invest in something not human bomb related. Maybe even, I don't know-schools with more then one subject (cause knowing how to fire rpg's doesn't really help with future employment) Which came first- human bombs targeting children and other (Israeli) citizens, or Israel being dicks? Seems pretty clear to me considering half their neighbors went to war against them literally 5 mins after their country was formed.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;40353166]not really because he was comparing iran and israel, not iran, israel, and north korea. his point is valid. [editline]20th April 2013[/editline] and it's in fact useful in this context because it was made regarding someone else stating israel is objectively better than iran. [editline]20th April 2013[/editline][/QUOTE] "in the grand scheme of things"
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40355683]"in the grand scheme of things"[/QUOTE] do you know what that means? It means putting everything together or looking at the big picture. I think you can't attack the opinion so you are trying and failing to attack a phrase which is also ignoring the main point. If you're so restricted over this, I could change the wording to help your brain cope with this difficult task. [editline]20th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=GoDong-DK;40354742][url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9831727/Iran-unveils-finger-amputating-machine-for-use-on-thieves.html[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Iran#Adultery.2Fsex_crimes_.28zina.29[/url] Capital punishment for minors was removed last year, though a judge can still sentence a 15-18 to death in special cases. You can get killed for having sex outside marriage, and in general the land is partying like it's 1499 law wise. A girl from my class is from Iran, and she tells about how they had to keep a marriage secret to the state (and this is apparently very normal) to not be arrested for it. Sorry, but no matter what shit Israel has done, Iran is worse in so many fucking ways it's not even funny. I feel for the Palestinian people, and I think the way Israel was conceived is fucking stupid, but you guys seem to think they're literally Satan.[/QUOTE] Obviously, but Israel is no better than Iran. Sure, Iran's government and law are very harsh and I don't agree with theocracy, but they also keep to themselves. Unlike Israel, which is notorious for occupying foreign soil and religious expansion, plus all the human rights issues associated with that.
[QUOTE=H8Entitlement;40355439]Seems pretty clear to me considering half their neighbors went to war against them literally 5 mins after their country was formed.[/QUOTE] And that was the past. Now we're in 2013 and Israel is one of the strongest economic and military powers in the region. They don't need "aid" from us anymore, they haven't for awhile.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40357791]And that was the past. Now we're in 2013 and Israel is one of the strongest economic and military powers in the region. They don't need "aid" from us anymore, they haven't for awhile.[/QUOTE] Yeah, really. They have a 200+ warhead nuclear stockpile, for a country of about 9 million. They dont need aid at all.
[QUOTE=laserguided;40357258]do you know what that means? It means putting everything together or looking at the big picture. I think you can't attack the opinion so you are trying and failing to attack a phrase which is also ignoring the main point. If you're so restricted over this, I could change the wording to help your brain cope with this difficult task. [editline]20th April 2013[/editline] Obviously, but Israel is no better than Iran. Sure, Iran's government and law are very harsh and I don't agree with theocracy, but they also keep to themselves. Unlike Israel, which is notorious for occupying foreign soil and religious expansion, plus all the human rights issues associated with that.[/QUOTE] North Korea also keeps to themselves most of the time, even if they make threats once in while. Does this mean North Korea is as good a country as Israel? Iran's a shitty country, oppressing their population and having barbaric laws. Let's just take one more example: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%9310_Iranian_election_protests#Government_reaction[/url] People protest and the fucking government let's the army shoot at random into the crowd. Let me take one quote: [QUOTE]The Iranian government has disputed these allegations, and confirmed the deaths of 36 people during the protests,[32] while unconfirmed reports by supporters of Mousavi allege that there have been 72 deaths (twice as many) in the three months following the disputed election, with a possibly higher number, since relatives of the deceased are forced to sign documents claiming they had died of heart attack or meningitis.[/QUOTE] Yeah, Iran may keep to themselves (when they're not busy trying to utilize nuclear power peacefully (though considering Israel's nukes, I understand somewhat that they'd be concerned about it)), but it's a fucking shitty country anyway.
Iran has hardly any human freedoms and Israel is still oppressing the people it ethnically cleansed from the land it sits on. Lets stop arguing.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;40357933]North Korea also keeps to themselves most of the time, even if they make threats once in while. Does this mean North Korea is as good a country as Israel? Iran's a shitty country, oppressing their population and having barbaric laws. Let's just take one more example: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%9310_Iranian_election_protests#Government_reaction[/url] People protest and the fucking government let's the army shoot at random into the crowd. Let me take one quote: Yeah, Iran may keep to themselves (when they're not busy trying to utilize nuclear power peacefully (though considering Israel's nukes, I understand somewhat that they'd be concerned about it)), but it's a fucking shitty country anyway.[/QUOTE] North Korea hardly keeps to itself, it recognizes South Korea as occupied territory and both are currently 'at war'.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40353123]Deflation is bad though. It means a decrease in prices, and makes people less willing to spend by waiting for a future time to buy. A lot of speculation is also common, and a deflationary currency makes you more vulnerable to very harsh market crashes. It's why the bitcoin will never become a serious currency too. Also it was my understanding that increasing employment goes hand in hand with increased inflation, not the other way around.[/QUOTE] People less willing to spend when prices go down? That makes no sense. Decreasing prices of goods benefits consumers greatly, especially consumers on a fixed budget. It does hurt manufacturing, but they have mechanisms to cope with currency fluctuations. And of course employers love inflation, because they essentially have to pay their employees less and less. They aren't hiring out of the goodness of their hearts, it's just they get a 2 for 1.
[QUOTE=bohb;40362096]People less willing to spend when prices go down? That makes no sense. Decreasing prices of goods benefits consumers greatly, especially consumers on a fixed budget. It does hurt manufacturing, but they have mechanisms to cope with currency fluctuations. And of course employers love inflation, because they essentially have to pay their employees less and less. They aren't hiring out of the goodness of their hearts, it's just they get a 2 for 1.[/QUOTE] you got it backwards. it isn't that people are buying less because prices are low, prices become low because people aren't spending. the housing market is a good example of deflation. the deflation itself wasn't the problem, it was merely a major indicator that people lost trust in the market and weren't participating anymore. [editline]21st April 2013[/editline] if a market is deflating it's quite likely you have serious issues in the industry/market.
[QUOTE=laserguided;40358163]North Korea hardly keeps to itself, it recognizes South Korea as occupied territory and both are currently 'at war'.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_relations[/url] [QUOTE]The land is referred to by Iran as "Occupied territories."[/QUOTE] Woop die du, Iran doesn't either, but I don't even know why "they keep to themselves" suddenly makes everything bad they do completely irrelevant.
[QUOTE=bohb;40362096]People less willing to spend when prices go down? That makes no sense. Decreasing prices of goods benefits consumers greatly, especially consumers on a fixed budget. It does hurt manufacturing, but they have mechanisms to cope with currency fluctuations. And of course employers love inflation, because they essentially have to pay their employees less and less. They aren't hiring out of the goodness of their hearts, it's just they get a 2 for 1.[/QUOTE] Yawmwen covered this, but basically when prices go down, there are a lot of people who are unwilling to spend, because they think that prices will continue to drop. If you have £100, and the price of bitcoins are declining, it makes no sense to buy them. You are going to lose out. So you inevitably will wait for them to hit rock bottom before buying. Of course, some people will end up buying before, but the chances of people buying things gets lower the higher deflation is. Basically: Higher deflation > People less willing to buy Higher inflation > People more willing to buy (if prices are rising, you want to spend your wages before it becomes less valuable). Crashes and hyperinflation is what happens when both get out of hand.
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