[QUOTE=PEn1s lol;20782175]The BNP Are fascists and a international health service could be a good Idea.[/QUOTE]
But is fascism bad?
[QUOTE=PEn1s lol;20782175]The BNP Are fascists and a international health service could be a good Idea.[/QUOTE]
Ignore him, he's the local troll.
[QUOTE=Vasili;20781539]Nope, if you're hurt or ill (or apparently if you want an abortion) you can go in and get free healthcare.[/QUOTE]
Then I don't see the problem. If the NHS is designed for all EU residents then everything is just fine.
I would assume the cost to travel to the UK would far outweigh the the cost of free health care anyway.
I'm full blooded Polish, but i'm male.
will this carry over to my German girlfriend? :v:
Abortions are sicknasty.
[QUOTE=Vasili;20781539]Actually as far as I am aware if you are a EU/EEA citizen you are entitled to use Polish health care services with only your European Health Insurance Card. Emergency treatment and treatment in case of sudden illnesses usually is free of charge. But in other cases you might be asked to pay upfront. Though I think getting insurance does not apply to Great Britain because of the bilateral agreement signed by Poland and Britain, but we will still have to pay upfront for other treatment; Lets say if Poland allowed abortions, British citizens would have to pay to get one, so why not the same here? As I said its a obvious abuse of the system.[/quote]
If it's an agreement then it's an agreement, not abuse by any part. It is going to help women who would receive improper treatment if it were to be done in Poland. Be proud over your nation's display of solidarity instead of grunting about taxes. It's not going to affect you negatively in any way.
[quote]So also tell me if it is open to all EU members, why are Polish people completely avoiding countries such as France and Germany which are directly on their route of travel? We do get support from the EU but it is minimal as far as I am aware. Unless you can show me a list of things the EU helps us with and specific amounts of money they give to us compared to how much we give back to the rest of Europe which I, personally believe is greater than we get back. Though I could be wrong on that.[/QUOTE]
There is probably statistics on that somewhere on the EU website.
Let them do what they want jesus christ who cares if someone gets a kid aborted it's not harming you.
[QUOTE=markg06;20785377]Let them do what they want jesus christ who cares if someone gets a kid aborted it's not harming you.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. We should be able to abort homeless people and orphans too.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;20785414]Yeah. We should be able to abort homeless people and orphans too.[/QUOTE]
Scientifically speaking, born children are more developed than a clump of stem cells that are ONLY just beginning to develop.
Although I would choose stem cells over starving orphans, then make a clone of my self so I can make him do everything for me.
[QUOTE=Dr. Freeman;20785473]Scientifically speaking, born children are more developed than a clump of stem cells that are ONLY just beginning to develop.
Although I would choose stem cells over starving orphans, then make a clone of my self so I can make him do everything for me.[/QUOTE]
Fetus.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;20785414]Yeah. We should be able to abort homeless people and orphans too.[/QUOTE]
we shouldn't be able to abort the nutritious flora on our hands by clapping then
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;20785640]Fetus.[/QUOTE]
Try feeding a burger to a fetus.
It can not be done, trust me, I've tried.
i kill a million babies after viewing the "hot girls" thread
[QUOTE=Dr. Freeman;20786146]Try feeding a burger to a fetus.
It can not be done, trust me, I've tried.[/QUOTE]
I've tried to get a vegan to eat a burger too.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;20786285]I've tried to get a vegan to eat a burger too.[/QUOTE]
:allears:
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;20786285]I've tried to get a vegan to eat a burger too.[/QUOTE]
Yeah... it seems a Vegan is equal to a fetus.
Touch'e.
Haha. That ad was priceless. (No pun intended.)
To deny access to healthcare to other EU members would be to breach one of the main rights that the EU was founded on, a fair treatment for all member's citizens in any member state
Just bending the system a bit, if anything this will put pressure back on Poland to change
[QUOTE=MadMaxJ;20780641]How does it make you look bad?[/QUOTE]
What i meant to say was it's more ammo fot the chavvy ,ignorant ,biggot type.
[QUOTE=Communist Cake;20777319]What do people have against abortions anyway?[/QUOTE]
The doctors and medical advisers to pregnant women rarely discuss any other alternative option to abortion. What options are there? Adoption for starters. There's a lot of couples out there who'll love to adopt your baby and give it a chance at a good life. These medical clinics are more interested in advertising a product (abortion) instead of giving actual advice.
The best advice you can give to anyone who's sexually active is the following: "If you're not willing to talk to your sexual partner about what to do in the event of a pregnancy, you're not ready for sex."
Screw health we need to focus on education, as it hasn't improved much at all.
There's an argument to be made that providing an abortion would be cheaper than the cost of childbirth plus any of the health costs of the child after birth.
The moralistic concerns aside (my issue doesn't lie here), the problem I'm seeing is that this is being charged through the British nation. I'd assume that this Polish feminist group is encouraging Poles who want an abortion to seek it in West Europe, due to the dominance of the catholic church in much of Poland's policies and norms.
So the issue here is who is backing the bill for these abortions, not the Polish women seeking it, but the obviously the Brits themselves.
To be honest though I think this would have happened with or with out the EU, in regards to seeking a procedure in another country.
The only reason abortions are protested is because of hardcore religion followers.
According to them, it's sinful, will make god hate/punish humanity, and will make us all go to hell.
I hate it when idiots get religion get involved with the government and laws.
We don't need pastors making decisions for us.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;20778802]That's subjective, I for one would rather live like that than not live at all.[/QUOTE]
How is an abortion of a 10 cell blastula or whatever the fuck it's called then more cruel than to choose not to have sex in the first place?
[QUOTE=Wolf_Marine;20786841]The doctors and medical advisers to pregnant women rarely discuss any other alternative option to abortion. What options are there? Adoption for starters."[/QUOTE]
Pain of childbirth.
Push a small turkey out of your ass and then you'll have something to compare it to
I am sick to death of the international community assuming they can do whatever the fuck they want in Britain. But the thing is, a White, English speaking person would never be able to get away with half the shit they do.
We have poles coming here to get babies aborted on [b]our[/b]tax money.
We have muslims demanding that [b]our[/b] Queen should abide by[b]their[/b] religion in [b]our[/b]country.
We have muslims demanding that we take [b]our[/b]national flags down because its "racist" while they freely build mosques on [b]our[/b] own soil
and we have muslims protesting the parades of fallen soldiers on [b]our[/b]own soil.
I'd love to gather 60,000 Britons and emigrate to Poland, start making chip shops and William Hill betting shops on every corner and making pubs on every single street. Then I'd get a job for a Polish person and when they're stood instructing me what to do I wouldn't understand a single word.
Or what if I took another 60,000 people to Islamabad and insisted that my own culture deserves better recognition there because I'm a guest in their country. And tell them to take down their national flags because I feel they offended me.
Then I'd get a job in a shop, and when people come in I'd stand on a mobile talking to my relatives in England. Of couse they wouldn't be able to understand what I'm saying because I'm speaking a completely different fucking language.
And then what I'd do at the weekends is watch the funeral processions of fallen soldiers, and whilst the families and friends of those soldiers are stood crying and mourning their losses I'd shout racist abuse at them and inisist that they're "Butchers and Killers"
I could guarantee that once the glove is on the other hand they won't be so interested in multicultural diversity, what they would want is for this offensive, rude and generally abhorrant foreigner to disappear from their country.
And when I am condoned for comitting these acts I shall say
"It's party of [b]MY[/b] culture, therefore acting against it is considered racism"
/Rage
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[QUOTE=Zeke129;20782509]Then I don't see the problem. If the NHS is designed for all EU residents then everything is just fine.[/QUOTE]
The N in NHS stands for National. As in not International, European or otherwise.
And seeing as thought the NHS is BRITISH, it should be required that you are a BRITISH national to use it. (Apart from life-saving emergency treatment of course)
Makes sense really.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;20791112]Pain of childbirth.
Push a small turkey out of your ass and then you'll have something to compare it to[/QUOTE]
Last I heard abortions can hurt.
[QUOTE=Vasili;20781539]Actually as far as I am aware if you are a EU/EEA citizen you are entitled to use Polish health care services with only your European Health Insurance Card. Emergency treatment and treatment in case of sudden illnesses usually is free of charge. But in other cases you might be asked to pay upfront. Though I think getting insurance does not apply to Great Britain because of the bilateral agreement signed by Poland and Britain, [B]but we will still have to pay upfront for other treatment; Lets say if Poland allowed abortions, British citizens would have to pay to get one, so why not the same here? As I said its a obvious abuse of the system.[/B]
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Bear in mind Poland didn't have to opportunity to regenerate it's economy as easily after WW2 as the Soviets were in control. After 89 there were still problems and there still are. While i don't condone Poles getting free healthcare and Brit's having to pay it would be unfair to ask a country that still has a fragile health care service to provide free healthcare.
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