Millionaire puts up a kickstarter to raise $900 for her daughter to make an RPG with, raises $21000,
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[QUOTE=Zeke129;40034656]Startled at the presence and success of a woman on the internet, The Rifleman bolted up from his office chair in disgust. Empty Monster Energy Drink cans and week-old potato chips, long thought to be permanently affixed to his garments, cascaded upwards towards the ceiling. With a clunk and an immediate reversal in direction they rained down upon the computer fans, the updraft causing the crumbs to dance and frolic as The Rifleman once did. But no longer, for he is now a guardian of the internet. A bringer of justice. A knocker-down-a-peg of women. Dancing and frolicking can wait, for there is a job to be done.
"This shall not stand!" he exclaimed, as the sweat from his brow met the cheeto dust in his neckbeard and an orange liquid seeped into his Slayer shirt. Fumbling to find his keyboard and mouse buried under the works of Nietzsche and Ayn Rand, and shoving aside a copy of The God Delusion, he found it: the fabled mouse. As he kept the cursor permanently located above the report link on Kickstarter, the most useful resource for the internet warrior, all that would be required to bring down the hammer of justice would be a single mouse click.
However, there was an obstacle in his way. The left mouse button would not click, for a strange goo was completely caked around it! "This must be the work of Tumblr feminists and the Southern Poverty Law Center," he thought to himself, as he slouched back into his office chair, resigned to his fate on an internet no longer free. No longer safe. No longer exclusive. Even as you read this now, women on the internet do things you do not like with impunity. Those who call them bitches and cunts, banned. Those who report their activities, ignored. The internet has died. And somewhere, a lone Carl Sagan sheds a tear. The dream is over.[/QUOTE]
alrighty shadaez, lets see just how lacking of cruel language this post is, and how many fucking assumptions have to be made(far more than calling a woman who has acted like a bitch, a bitch) to make this supposed joke work
Line one, inferring that the reason of anger beyond anything else is that she's a woman, not her actions, but her gender(this isn't true so it's stupid to bring up)
line two, a bunch of assumptions about how someone lives attacking their character in a personal manner so as to minimize how much their words matter
line 5 and 6 both attack the person for deciding to have an opinion on the issue
2nd paragraph assumptions about character and philospohical stances completely unrelated to anything, a complete assumption to make the attack that this person is an idiot
3rd paragraph another character assumption jumping on internet posters as people who can't stop jacking off for 3 seconds
continues on to act like the existence of women is again a problem for this person, again a complete assumption
Like holy fucking shit, you're mad about ONE word being used, but when someone goes to excessive effort and time to make "fun" of someone(read: make assumptions to diminish that person as much as possible) it's fucking FINE with you guys.
Why is this hard to get
[editline]25th March 2013[/editline]
you're a hypocrite and you're not able to see it, seriously stop and just think about what you're saying here.
HumanAbyss, that was wonderful.
However, my psychic powers (one of the many privileges of being a cis straight white male) tell me he's going to respond and say that The Rifleman isn't oppressed and women are so Zeke is in the clear and Rifleman isn't because the used the word "bitch".
[editline]25th March 2013[/editline]
Also could somebody please tell me what "cis" means? All I know is that I get called it whenever I disagree with a woman over the internet. Since I don't feel particularly oppressed it must describe me.
[QUOTE=NoShogun;40040135]Also could somebody please tell me what "cis" means? All I know is that I get called it whenever I disagree with a woman over the internet. Since I don't feel particularly oppressed it must describe me.[/QUOTE]
Cisgender, the antonym of transgender.
Its use as an insult fucking baffles me.
[QUOTE=NoShogun;40040135]Also could somebody please tell me what "cis" means? All I know is that I get called it whenever I disagree with a woman over the internet. Since I don't feel particularly oppressed it must describe me.[/QUOTE]
Think the opposite of transgender. You're born the same sex as your gender.
[QUOTE=NoShogun;40040135]However, my psychic powers (one of the many privileges of being a cis straight white male) tell me he's going to respond and say that The Rifleman isn't oppressed and women are so Zeke is in the clear and Rifleman isn't because the used the word "bitch".[/QUOTE]that's basically it. I just don't think the word bitch should be used to attack people. Feel free to attack her but without using slurs (or without attacking her for being a woman).
[QUOTE=NoShogun;40040135]
Also could somebody please tell me what "cis" means? All I know is that I get called it whenever I disagree with a woman over the internet. Since I don't feel particularly oppressed it must describe me.[/QUOTE]
it's the opposite of trans
[quote]The terms cis and trans are from Latin, in which cis means "on the same side" and trans means "on the other side" or "across"[/quote]
its used in geometry and stuff
[QUOTE=Shadaez;40040251]that's basically it. I just don't think the word bitch should be used to attack people. Feel free to attack her but without using slurs.
it's the opposite of trans
its used in geometry and stuff[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Like holy fucking shit, you're mad about ONE word being used, but when someone goes to excessive effort and time to make "fun" of someone(read: make assumptions to diminish that person as much as possible) it's fucking FINE with you guys.[/QUOTE]
i'm getting tired of you ignoring actual arguments
either way, i'd say one slur doesn't warrant a wildly excessive, exaggerative and assumptive piece of writing that I KNOW FOR A FACT, you'd crucify any man for writing about any woman.
what the ever loving fuck is going on here
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40040281]I KNOW FOR A FACT, you'd crucify any man for writing about any woman.[/QUOTE]
No, you do not. Fuck Susan Wilson. Fuck her for scamming people, not fuck her for scamming people and being a woman. Calling people a bitch is attacking them for being a woman (or if said to a man, for being womanly), it that being a woman is bad. Disagree with me, but it's doing that. Being a woman is deemed "bad" by society, which is why men are called pussies.
I'm done though, I'm really poorly representing my side because I'm having a hard time putting it into words.
[QUOTE=Dog;40040298]what the ever loving fuck is going on here[/QUOTE]
This basically happens to pretty much every Sensationalist Headlines thread past page four; everyone just starts violently discussing something that is almost- but not entirely- completely unrelated to the original topic.
And then it just never ends until one side just eventually goes "ugh this is fucking pointless"
[QUOTE=Shadaez;40040251]that's basically it. I just don't think the word bitch should be used to attack people. Feel free to attack her but without using slurs (or without attacking her for being a woman).
it's the opposite of trans
its used in geometry and stuff[/QUOTE]
I fail to see how bitch is really a slur. Yeah, it applies to women more than to men, but it's not really used as a slur in this day and age. It's more something that gets the point across that you think the person being described is bad.
That word isn't really used to oppress women as a whole.
Edit: But I should probably stop there. Neither of us is persuading anyone.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;40039749]though dick is bad it's much less harmless because men aren't oppressed[/QUOTE]
oh fuck this i'm out
ugh this is fucking pointless
[QUOTE=Dog;40040372]oh fuck this i'm out[/QUOTE]
Perhaps Adria Richards is a facepuncher :V
Cute move. Did you forget the internet can tell when you're lying?
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edit: lol
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I call people bitches, dickheads and bastards regardless of gender - I'm very modern.
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"I'm not a highly paid business woman"
her [I]own kickstarter page[/I] bio says "I'm a FORTUNE Top Ten Female Entrepreneur (2009)"
am I going fucking insane? is this some kind of JOLLY JAPE?
[QUOTE=Rufia;40040641]I call people bitches, dickheads and bastards regardless of gender - I'm very modern.[/QUOTE]
i hate everyone equally.
Oh look the guy who posted that article posted this article too
[URL]http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57575879-1/9-year-old-girls-kickstarter-for-coding-camp-is-crushing-it/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Shadaez;40039749]though dick is bad it's much less harmless because men aren't oppressed[/QUOTE]
So it's much more harmful? You don't even say what you mean dude.
>Using double negatives
[QUOTE=Turnips5;40040660]"I'm not a highly paid business woman"
her [I]own kickstarter page[/I] bio says "I'm a FORTUNE Top Ten Female Entrepreneur (2009)"
am I going fucking insane? is this some kind of JOLLY JAPE?[/QUOTE]
She knows people are calling her out on the crap she's pulled and is now just pulling words out of her ass in an attempt to make it seem like the "trolls" are lying.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;40040708]So it's much more harmful? You don't even say what you mean dude.
>Using double negatives[/QUOTE]
I don't think you understand how double negatives work.
[idea] because [separate idea]
[QUOTE=soulharvester;40040708]So it's much more harmful? You don't even say what you mean dude.
>Using double negatives[/QUOTE]
I bet there's a function to calculate the exponentially shorter length between contradictions or hypocrisy in Shadaez' posts and I guess we're at the point where two posts aren't enough to hold a contradiction anymore.
Meanwhile I'm thankful that there's a growing number of people who are aware of the issues surrounding this kickstarter.
With:
Lying
Breaking the rules
Spamming
Using / Abusing:
-Gender issues
-Her kids.
There's room for everyone to be offended! Shame so many already donated though, I hope they'll be reimbursed.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;40040770]I don't think you understand how double negatives work.
[idea] because [separate idea][/QUOTE]
double negative is using a word like yes or no(in this case less) to negate the meaning of yes or no
you said "less harmless", a double negative resulting in "harmful"
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40041346]double negative is using a word like yes or no(in this case less) to negate the meaning of yes or no
you said "less harmless", a double negative resulting in "harmful"[/QUOTE]
oops, meant less harmful (or more harmless) and I didn't even catch that when it was pointed out
[QUOTE=Shadaez;40040358]No, you do not. Fuck Susan Wilson. Fuck her for scamming people, not fuck her for scamming people and being a woman. Calling people a bitch is attacking them for being a woman (or if said to a man, for being womanly), it that being a woman is bad. Disagree with me, but it's doing that. Being a woman is deemed "bad" by society, which is why men are called pussies.
I'm done though, I'm really poorly representing my side because I'm having a hard time putting it into words.[/QUOTE]
calling her a bitch is not inherently attacking her womanhood or degrading it. it's pointing at that specific individual, usually used for ones actions. I don't see him attacking her for being a woman. I see him attacking that person for being an idiot. Man or woman, prick or bitch, bastard or cunt, either side makes no difference, if one can be said you cannot defend the opposite.
Pussies, a adult version of "scaredy cat"? So why is it a bad thing to be called a dick or a prick, or a bastard? Clearly those are attributes that are widely appreciated and no one wants to change that? I don't think so and I think you'd have a hard time arguing that.
I'm not going to pretend there isn't sexism in the language, there is, people can argue it however they please, but to argue that bitch is bad, but then defend someone who makes a joke with an incredible amount of derogatory language to another group seems ludicrous if you want to be taken seriously
[editline]25th March 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Shadaez;40041397]oops, meant less harmful (or more harmless) and I didn't even catch that when it was pointed out[/QUOTE]
so you would say that one is okay and one is not? with what basis?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40041404]calling her a bitch is not inherently attacking her womanhood or degrading it. it's pointing at that specific individual, usually used for ones actions. I don't see him attacking her for being a woman. I see him attacking that person for being an idiot. Man or woman, prick or bitch, bastard or cunt, either side makes no difference, if one can be said you cannot defend the opposite. [/quote] I understand that you feel that way, but others feel the opposite.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40041404]so you would say that one is okay and one is not? with what basis?[/QUOTE]
i dont recall saying one was OK, just that one is less harmful (sorry for mistakingly doing a double negative and confusing people though)
like calling a white dude a cracker v black dude the n word
one is clearly more harmful
and no please don't say im equating bitch to the n word, its just a relevant example
[QUOTE=Shadaez;40041473]I understand that you feel that way, but others feel the opposite.
i dont recall saying one was OK, just that one is less harmful (sorry for mistakingly doing a double negative and confusing people though)
like calling a white dude a cracker v black dude the n word
one is clearly more harmful
and no please don't say im equating bitch to the n word, its just a relevant example[/QUOTE]
one may be more harmful than the other, but it doesn't lessen the hypocrisy that the argument carries
i don't feel anyone should have the right to claim no one can use words against them to point out their flaws but take the freedom to say whatever they please about those that they want to discuss.
people calling someone a dick are not going to think about being derisive to men, i don't really believe that argument, and i think to some degree at least it must go the other way.
Bubububut guys, you're demeaning an entire gender I'm not a part of, by saying bitch! I can totally speak on behalf of everyday women seeing as I'm a man. I'll have you know my male friend Zeke also agrees we can speak on behalf of all women.
I feel the best way to show how accepting us male feminists are, is to assume everyone who isn't a feminist is a fat, lazy, misogynistic virgin. The best way to build support for our cause is to go around insulting people and then denying it. Hypocrisy always wins people over.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;40041473]and no please don't say im equating bitch to the n word, its just a relevant example[/QUOTE]
using 'nigger' to try validate the oppressive nature of 'bitch' is in no way a relevant or valid example whether you are trying to equate them or not
[QUOTE=Shadaez;40041473]I understand that you feel that way, but others feel the opposite.
i dont recall saying one was OK, just that one is less harmful (sorry for mistakingly doing a double negative and confusing people though)
like calling a white dude a cracker v black dude the n word
one is clearly more harmful
and no please don't say im equating bitch to the n word, its just a relevant example[/QUOTE]
Shadaez, seriously, just stop. The more you try to justify your odd viewpoints, the more unrelated and backwards they get. You're just digging your own grave at this point. Is it really so hard to just admit your wrong?
I'd have more respect for someone who can admit their mistakes, as opposed to someone who denies them.
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