Millionaire puts up a kickstarter to raise $900 for her daughter to make an RPG with, raises $21000, - Polidicks

Kickstarter should automatically close projects that reach their goal.

[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;40023864]Kickstarter should automatically close projects that reach their goal.[/QUOTE] That would backfire.

People are throwing money at her like crazy. She doesn't even give a description on what the game is going to be about. It just doesn't make sense to me that people would give this person money. I mean, it's cool that she wants to make a game and all, and I certainly wish her good luck, but I don't see why she would need $22k (let alone $800) just to make a game using RPG Maker.

[QUOTE=Ralakis;40021503]I've said some things in this thread and on this forum that I would prefer not trace back to my project but I'll just say that it's a post apocalyptic survival horror game and I don't think I'll be having any trouble getting it greenlit. Sorry for going off topic but Kickstarter needs to get their head out of their ass. I'm just glad indie gogo is getting more and more popular.[/QUOTE] aka "i don't want to post my project because people will tear it apart" [editline]24th March 2013[/editline] spending this whole thread ranting and then not having a product to back it up with just makes you look like you're really, really bitter. give people a reason to think your game deserves money where this one doesn't

Shes just doing it for the money, and she's done this before [t]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71368030/Pictoors/Retard1.png[/t] [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71368030/Pictoors/Retard2.png[/img] [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71368030/Pictoors/Retard3.png[/img] [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71368030/Pictoors/Retard4.png[/img] [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71368030/Pictoors/Retard5.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Crash15;40023997]Shes just doing it for the money, and she's done this before [t]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71368030/Pictoors/Retard1.png[/t] [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71368030/Pictoors/Retard2.png[/img] [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71368030/Pictoors/Retard3.png[/img] [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71368030/Pictoors/Retard4.png[/img] [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71368030/Pictoors/Retard5.png[/img][/QUOTE] Absolutely disgusting. I cant imagine the kind of psychological implications of declaring your sons to be fools to the world would have on them.

[QUOTE=Stormcharger;40020982]That and her video, but you know that it has to be the mum who is behind it all and using a 9 year old girl is good marketing.[/QUOTE] No, it's a stupid gimmick that any idiot could think of. Most people just have shame and want to be honest about their project.

I saw this at work a few days ago, I was absolutely disgusted by it, the whole thing is completely fabricated by the women, they obviously wanted to reach beyond the target and are playing basically any retarded card for feminism and kids and shit. I can't wait for the kid to be forced into "Computer Camp" and the mom sitting next to her and making a 10 minute RPG Maker game to statisfy their duties.

I now want to start a kickstarter to pay for my college so I can be a game designer, the more you donate the more access you get to my personal life, you can come visit me in my dorm and play video games or something. In about a decade when I finally make a game, you'll get it, whatever it is. Seems perfectly reasonable to me based on what is outlined in this kickstarter, you'll be proving the world wrong by showing them I can make a video game! Seems about as reasonable as, oh I dunno. What the Kickstarter description is? [quote] Mean older brothers say she can't so my daughter's proving she can do what they can't - BUILD HER OWN RPG game AND pay for it![/quote]

What bothers me is that it's blatantly against Kickstarter's policies for campaigns. Straight from the guidelines: [QUOTE]Funding for projects only. A project has a clear goal, like making an album, a book, or a work of art. A project will eventually be completed, and something will be produced by it. A project is not open-ended. Starting a business, for example, does not qualify as a project.[/QUOTE] Sending your daughter to camp is not a project. [QUOTE]03. No "fund my life" projects. Examples include projects to pay tuition or bills, go on vacation, or buy a new camera.[/QUOTE] Explicitly says paying for tuition is not allowed

They should ban this woman from Kickstarter for just flat out lying and violating almost every single policy on the website. She's going to be a habitual rule breaker, and that isn't going to change.

[QUOTE=atl101;40024332]What bothers me is that it's blatantly against Kickstarter's policies for campaigns. Straight from the guidelines: Sending your daughter to camp is not a project. Explicitly says paying for tuition is not allowed[/QUOTE] Why would kickstarter want to stop it if it actually makes them money.

[QUOTE=Valnar;40024352]Why would kickstarter want to stop it if it actually makes them money.[/QUOTE] It degrades Kickstarter and all of the other projects they've helped fund in the past. I'm sure they're going to get a ton of shitty applications now citing this as precedent

Way to use controversial topics and your children to help you gain more money. This woman is a scam artist [editline]24th March 2013[/editline] Oh boy, that camp she's going to? Apparently it's one hour of "Teamwork" exercises, one hour of lunch, and one hour of work. All for the nice price of 1000 dollars

How is this still up? I thought kickstarter was a lot more strict when it came to things like this? [B]EDIT: [/B]For all of those saying, "She is just teacher her daughter how business works...", this is [I]not [/I]how business works. She is teaching her daughter to think that she can get handouts to do what she wants, which is literally as far from business as anything can get.

[QUOTE=atl101;40024332]What bothers me is that it's blatantly against Kickstarter's policies for campaigns. Straight from the guidelines: Sending your daughter to camp is not a project. Explicitly says paying for tuition is not allowed[/QUOTE] Report that shit, dog.

To be honest Daniel M is completely right. Why even turn to Kickstarter when your parent's are millionaires? That's like paying for swimming lessons when you own the fucking pool and everything within 5 miles of it. You don't because you don't need to. I can understand how this annoys people, slaving away on their game day and night, creating something pretty cool which will more than likely go unnoticed, and then a 9 year old who clearly knows shit all about making a game get's money thrown at her [i]when she already has rich parents[/i] But, you can't tell people how to spend their money, so it is what it is.

[QUOTE=- Livewire -;40024771]To be honest Daniel M is completely right. Why even turn to Kickstarter when your parent's are millionaires? That's like paying for swimming lessons when you own the fucking pool and everything within 5 miles of it. You don't because you don't need to. I can understand how this annoys people, slaving away on their game day and night, creating something pretty cool which will more than likely go unnoticed, and then a 9 year old who clearly knows shit all about making a game get's money thrown at her [i]when she already has rich parents[/i] But, you can't tell people how to spend their money, so it is what it is.[/QUOTE] The other problem is that it's against the kickstarter TOS to use the raised money for tuition/vacation/basically anything that isn't strictly related to the game/product.

So you are telling me, that a 9 year old girl whose mother is a millionaire deserves money more than someone trying to make the bare minimum amount to make a game they have been working on for years? No, just no. Too many good projects have fell short of their goal before, and now she is on track to make a hell of alot more than them just because she's a little girl.

[QUOTE=SCopE5000;40022696]When you make tons of money anyway, 5% of $21k isn't exactly 'monetary gain' is it? It's pittance. Which leads me to believe this purely for the other benefits to the indie game/web development industry. Something kickstarter most certainly is involved in.[/QUOTE] You're saying that as if 21k usd is throwaway money. Yes, it's only a bit of their total income, but far from negligible. Obviously kickstarter has benefits for the industry, nobody's denying that. What I'm saying is that kickstarter is a business and it's run like a business. They wouldn't do this if it wasn't beneficial for them as a profitable business. [QUOTE=SCopE5000;40022696]It promotes it because it raises Kickstarter's profile (via mass media) and brings more people into the site - and in doing so, raises the potential funding available to all the independent game projects that are listed.[/QUOTE] Considering the nature of this project, that is mostly true, even if it might be bad rep. Considering the nature I mean because it's an 8 year old doing a project and getting a shitload of money. [QUOTE=SCopE5000;40022696]It does take money to live in today's society, and indeed to launch a game. 1. Rent paid whilst game is being developed. 2. Food bills paid whilst game is being developed. 3. Initial cost of PC. 4. Electricity bill for PC. 5. Software cost for Windows/ Photoshop/ 3DSmax/ etc. 6. Internet bill. 7. Misc costs i.e. living/ rainy-day funds/ entertainment cost. All of this needs to be factored in for the time you are [b]learning to make the game[/b], as well as the time spent when you are [b]actually making it[/b] Of course if you're living in your parent's house, none of this is an issue.[/QUOTE] Most 8 year olds tend to live in their parent's house. But your point is misses even disregarding that because of the way game projects are usually done: as hobbies. The point of kickstarter is to get the funding to start investing all your time into game development. You might disagree, that is fine. But the point is that most indie games are concieved like that and grow as the popularity increases. But what you're saying is that someone has to make a commercial release immediately as their first game, which is just a bit daft. Games are started as free-time projects. Meaning someone already either has some kind of allowance or a job and spends their evenings and nights developing a game or an idea. Then, only THEN they do a kickstarter with some original idea, or even better, just develop the game to build a name for themselves. Anyone who even considers to get into game development (as in, programming wise) already has a PC. They already have to live somewhere, they already have to have a PC (which you can get for relatively cheap). As for software, that's a bit of a stupid point. There's plenty of free software to make games (some Linux distribution, Audacity for sound editing, Gimp for image editing, Löve as the game engine,..). Just deciding that your first game will be in Unreal engine (though they do free student licenses these days iirc?) is a bit stupid and makes you sound like an "ideas guy" and we all know how these always end up on the internet. As for learning to make the game, that is the biggest bullshit. Would you support someone with zero experience to make a game if it wasn't an 8 year old girl or some person that doesn't conventionally do game development? No, you wouldn't. Would you support some random Finnish person who you only know plays PC games and has no history of creative work but has an ambitious idea for a game that hasn't been done before and is asking for money to go to a game design college? No, even if he has some amazing ambitious idea. It's like having a situation where someone wants to enter a car race. In your example, they'd be asking for funds to attend a driving school because he's never driven before and then enter a race. In my example, it'd be someone who has been driving for some time (at least a few months) and wants to enter a race. Since you funded him you'd want to guy to achieve something, right? The first guy MAY end up winning, but he also may end up being an absolutely horrendous driver. For the second one, you already know he's not horrendous. I'm stretching this a bit. The point it, what you're saying is daft. Kickstarter page says [i]"Kickstarter is full of ambitious, innovative, and imaginative projects"[/i]. Now tell me, what is ambitious or innovative or imaginative about this project? And don't say the fact that an 8 year old girl is doing it because [U]the project is a game[/U]. Now what is so special about this game that we don't know anything about. [QUOTE=SCopE5000;40022696]Yes, all of these things are beneficial to the growth of PC gaming and indie development. As is this Kickstarter.[/QUOTE] Hardly.

I think it's pretty cute that the girl wants to make a video game but I can't help but wonder where the hell the rest of the money is gonna go, hopefully not straight to the mother's pockets. Optimistic thought, though. [img]https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/456/019/8b459420ef6671408d6305f0a3f32f4a_large.png?1363722729[/img] Look at that DnD sheet that's adorable.

[QUOTE=Joeyl10;40025065]I think it's pretty cute that the girl wants to make a video game but I can't help but wonder where the hell the rest of the money is gonna go, hopefully not straight to the mother's pockets. Optimistic thought, though. [img]https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/456/019/8b459420ef6671408d6305f0a3f32f4a_large.png?1363722729[/img] Look at that DnD sheet that's adorable.[/QUOTE] Oh god I glanced at the alignment and I thought it said nutella :v:

I wish I could make a kickstarter every time I wanted to take up a new hobby.

[QUOTE=slayer20;40025477]Oh god I glanced at the alignment and I thought it said nutella :v:[/QUOTE] Lawful Nutella kicks ass.

[QUOTE=Samoht;40025639]I wish I could make a kickstarter every time I wanted to take up a new hobby.[/QUOTE] Sorry millionaires only

"I have a Mac desktop that used to be my Dad's. It works fine but I really want my very own laptop." What. That's a want, not a need. I want a second screen for my programming laptop. Can I make a kickstarter too? Also I feel like those brothers are being abused. She clearly has a favourite daughter, all they need is a caption underneath saying "Pictured: CIS WHITE SCUM PREVENTING WOMAN FROM ENTERING MALE DOMINATED GAMES INDUSTRY." Also why did she pick that image of them wearing that t-shirt with the word "lesbian" on it?

This kinda shows the problem with kickstarter. THere is no ceiling for the money you can get. If you ask for $500 for a project and you get $50 000 there is no way you can put all that money to any sort of use that will be beneficial to the project. Kickstarter should really add a 300% funding limit or something to projects so that won't happen.

i'll just post this here [url]https://kickstarterscam.jottit.com/[/url]

I thought she wanted to make a rocket propelled grenade

I bet the millionaire mom funded the majority of the money raised. She 'kickstarted' the kickstarter by funneling in a few grand to make it seem spectacularly supported. Kind of like on Breaking Bad.