[QUOTE=karimatrix;45697519]d)they wanted to give fuel for people like reddit to keep bashing on web - oh look! They've must have unloaded something already from sealed trucks![/QUOTE]
man, reddit must be a hell of a threat if one of the biggest, most powerful countries in the world needs to give the internet a reason to argument against them
nice nice nice
[QUOTE=karimatrix;45697519]People always find reason to complain.
There are 1000 legit reasons why few trucks might be a bit empty.
a) Space is keept in case one of other trucks get wrecked and supplies need to be repositioned. Also, mind the quality of ukranian-bombed to shit quality roads.
b) Ukranian customs played a bitch and asked for some portion of supplies stay.
c) They might end up using trucks to evacuate people on emergency (this is war, you know, everything can happen)
d)they wanted to give fuel for people like reddit to keep bashing on web - oh look! They've must have unloaded something already from sealed trucks![/QUOTE]
Or you're delusional. Pure and simple this was nothing more then to goad Ukraine into some sort of action, and also choosing to last minute go through a rebel held border crossing instead of being inspected by Ukrainian government officials is such a gigantic red flag that it's seriously, what the fuck.
[QUOTE=karimatrix;45697519]People always find reason to complain.
There are 1000 legit reasons why few trucks might be a bit empty.
a) Space is keept in case one of other trucks get wrecked and supplies need to be repositioned. Also, mind the quality of ukranian-bombed to shit quality roads.
b) Ukranian customs played a bitch and asked for some portion of supplies stay.
c) They might end up using trucks to evacuate people on emergency (this is war, you know, everything can happen)
d)they wanted to give fuel for people like reddit to keep bashing on web - oh look! They've must have unloaded something already from sealed trucks![/QUOTE]
Do you actually believe the shit you're saying or are you just defending your country?
[QUOTE=Stopper;45697632]Do you actually believe the shit you're saying or are you just defending your country?[/QUOTE]
I'd rather believe official news reports then reddit speculations or twitter images over anything.
Social networks are not valid sources, no matter how much you wish for that.
[QUOTE=karimatrix;45697665]I'd rather believe official news reports then reddit speculations or twitter images over anything.
Social networks are not valid sources, no matter how much you wish for that.[/QUOTE]
But when you say shit like this
[QUOTE=karimatrix;45697519]People always find reason to complain.
There are 1000 legit reasons why few trucks might be a bit empty.
a) Space is keept in case one of other trucks get wrecked and supplies need to be repositioned. Also, mind the quality of ukranian-bombed to shit quality roads.
b) Ukranian customs played a bitch and asked for some portion of supplies stay.
c) They might end up using trucks to evacuate people on emergency (this is war, you know, everything can happen)
d)they wanted to give fuel for people like reddit to keep bashing on web - oh look! They've must have unloaded something already from sealed trucks![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=karimatrix;45697590]As for your points, read again, quality of roads and place being a warzone. You don't wanna your trucks being Fully loaded, slowly going through warzone where only few batalions of ukranian army respond directly to Kiev, you wnt them to go fast and easly. As for Ukranian customs being dicks (Trucks were checked by customs when passing through border, you know?), they can do that just to piss off russian side, they are pretty good at that.[/QUOTE]
It's completely valid, woo woo
What happened to that picture from 2 days ago where a truck is shown so loaded that it is bulging?
First try to say its not aid by saying its full of troops and weapons.
Then try to say its not aid by 3 twitter pictures saying it is empty.
Schrodingers aid -
You don't know until it is open whether it is empty or full of troops and tanks.
[QUOTE]As for your points, read again, quality of roads and place being a warzone. You don't wanna your trucks being Fully loaded, slowly going through warzone where only few batalions of ukranian army respond directly to Kiev, you wnt them to go fast and easly. As for Ukranian customs being dicks (Trucks were checked by customs when passing through border, you know?), they can do that just to piss off russian side, they are pretty good at that.[/QUOTE]
Can you please provide an image of these roads?
Where is your evidence for these "rogue" battalions?
Why is Ukrainian customs being concerned to the contents of these trucks an issue? They don't have anything to hide after all. so it should be no problem for the trucks to be let through.
[QUOTE=Stopper;45697632]Do you actually believe the shit you're saying or are you just defending your country?[/QUOTE]
wouldn't be surprised if he's a gimmick account
[QUOTE=Hat-Wearing Man;45697810]wouldn't be surprised if he's a gimmick account[/QUOTE]
Joined 2007, over 1000 posts. That would be a pretty dedicated gimmick.
Just because you disagree with him doesn't mean you should disregard logic in your pursuit of the perfect ah hominem.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;45697852]Joined 2007, over 1000 posts. That would be a pretty dedicated gimmick.
Just because you disagree with him doesn't mean you should disregard logic in your pursuit of the perfect ah hominem.[/QUOTE]
You know what forum you are using, right? Because it's not a new thing or uncommon.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;45697852]Joined 2007, over 1000 posts. That would be a pretty dedicated gimmick.[/QUOTE]he seemed ok before, a long time ago. all this stuff only sprang up in the wake of the ukrainian revolution
[QUOTE=Joazzz;45697907]he seemed ok before, a long time ago. all this stuff only sprang up in the wake of the ukrainian revolution[/QUOTE]
With the wake of the ukrainian revolution also came a wave of hatred toward Russia. Most of what he posts is very critical, taking the given facts to produce good counter arguements to "here is a picture from twitter saying Russia xyz, hngg hate boner!".
Lots of what Russia does is the same as other countries, doesn't make it right but they get an unfair amount of stick. Then you get a few people saying Russians are somehow genetically prone toward violence and alcholism which is pretty nasty.
Remember all those posts about "huh probably loaded with troops", "looks here is a twitter picture with an AA radar" (taken in russia), "here is truck with air holes I got from twitter". All Crap. Sure it might be a ruse but to send in troops in unarmoured trucks would be folly. And to propose such a scheme would be illogical.
[QUOTE=karimatrix;45697665]I'd rather believe official news reports then reddit speculations[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, like RT :v:
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;45697961]
Remember all those posts about "huh probably loaded with troops", "looks here is a twitter picture with an AA radar" (taken in russia), "here is truck with air holes I got from twitter". All Crap. Sure it might be a ruse but to send in troops in unarmoured trucks would be folly. And to propose such a scheme would be illogical.[/QUOTE]
It's going to be funny if Russia is actually using this to instigate an attack on Ukraine because you'll look like even more of an idiot than you already do.
Holy shit so apparently Ukraine has attacked and destroyed intruding Russian vehicles. fucck
[url]http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/15/uk-ukraine-crisis-idUKKBN0GF13520140815?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews[/url]
The armored convoy deployed with the vehicles that held humanitarian goods - it was part of the deal, who would send these unprotected vehicles into a warzone? - was attacked so Kiev better come up with a good statement to back this up because shit is about to go down real soon.
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