Female Student Said, 'I'm Fine and I Wasn't Raped.' University Investigated, Expelled Boyfriend Anyw - Polidicks

[QUOTE=mooman1080;50171155]Your point?[/QUOTE] The same point I've been making since page 1. We don't have the full story, and we won't until the university finally releases a statement or the accuser does.

[QUOTE=plunger435;50171163]The same point I've been making since page 1. We don't have the full story, and we won't until the university finally releases a statement or the accuser does.[/QUOTE] Ok, thanks for arguing into a circle.

[QUOTE=Sableye;50171161]honestly, congress[I] needs[/I] to reform title-9 so that schools aren't responsible for investigating if the allegid crime is a felony as long as they file it with the police, thats the only reason why they have to do this is because title 9 currently forces them to, which isn't bad its just schools tend to either do absolutely nothing, or in this case, absolutely fuck up everything[/QUOTE] that won't happen easily though, not over the chorus of "1 in 5! why do you [i]want[/i] college girls to be raped!?" the entire obama administration has embraced that stupid statistic

[QUOTE=mooman1080;50171175]Ok, thanks for arguing into a circle.[/QUOTE] I've been arguing the same point the entire time, it's not my fault people explosively over-reacted and tried to say I was defending the university.

[QUOTE=plunger435;50171231]I've been arguing the same point the entire time, it's not my fault people explosively over-reacted and tried to say I was defending the university.[/QUOTE] Yes because that's 100% relevant to arguing in a circle with me. Let it go.

Sex is hard in 2016

have you people considered that he was expelled for a reason other than rape

[QUOTE=geel9;50172001]have you people considered that he was expelled for a reason other than rape[/QUOTE]No, because that's stupid and he's leveling a lawsuit against the university precisely because his suspension over a sexual assault is complete bullshit. Or are you trying to assert that he was suspended for a low GPA and this whole thing is the most convoluted and pointless conspiracy in academic history?

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50172130]No, because that's stupid and he's leveling a lawsuit against the university precisely because his suspension over a sexual assault is complete bullshit. Or are you trying to assert that he was suspended for a low GPA and this whole thing is the most convoluted and pointless conspiracy in academic history?[/QUOTE] No I'm saying perhaps his sexual relationship with an athlete as a trainer is the issue, not whether or not the sex was consensual

[QUOTE=Sableye;50171161]honestly, congress[I] needs[/I] to reform title-9 so that schools aren't responsible for investigating if the allegid crime is a felony as long as they file it with the police, thats the only reason why they have to do this is because title 9 currently forces them to, which isn't bad its just schools tend to either do absolutely nothing, or in this case, absolutely fuck up everything[/QUOTE] I didn't think they were forced to investigate, I guess not explicitly. I know the Safe Campus Act was supposed to mitigate this kind of confusion by making it so campuses couldn't enact on these reports unless they were reported to the police, but it seems to be in limbo.

[QUOTE=SonicXV;50172186]I didn't think they were forced to investigate, I guess not explicitly. I know the Safe Campus Act was supposed to mitigate this kind of confusion by making it so campuses couldn't enact on these reports unless they were reported to the police, but it seems to be in limbo.[/QUOTE] Yeah, it's being opposed by some democrats and left-leaning media outlets because it hurts rape victims....somehow.

[QUOTE=geel9;50172178]No I'm saying perhaps his sexual relationship with an athlete as a trainer is the issue, not whether or not the sex was consensual[/QUOTE] That is only an issue if done on paid time and the university is paying the trainer. However that doesn't mean sexual assault occurred.

[QUOTE=DELL;50172331]That is only an issue if done on paid time and the university is paying the trainer. However that doesn't mean sexual assault occurred.[/QUOTE] The expulsion was for sexual misconduct, not sexual assault.

[QUOTE=geel9;50172178]No I'm saying perhaps his sexual relationship with an athlete as a trainer is the issue, not whether or not the sex was consensual[/QUOTE][QUOTE=geel9;50172361]The expulsion was for sexual misconduct, not sexual assault.[/QUOTE]Here's where that line of argument seems to fall apart: if that's true then why suspension for years? Seems completely fucking draconian doesn't it? Additionally if it was true sexual misconduct then was she reprimanded? I don't recall reading about Jane Doe being reprimanded for her part, on the contrary it seems like she was treated as an innocent flower by the university.

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50172379]Here's where that line of argument seems to fall apart: if that's true then why suspension for years? Seems completely fucking draconian doesn't it? Additionally if it was true sexual misconduct then was she reprimanded? I don't recall reading about Jane Doe being reprimanded for her part, on the contrary it seems like she was treated as an innocent flower by the university.[/QUOTE] I don't see why any of what you just said implies that he was expelled for rape; it only implies that their rules regarding sexual misconduct aren't exactly fair.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50172725]On page 2 I thought about the same semantics and then posted a quote of title ix which stated what sexual misconduct stood for in this context. It is sexual harassment, assault, rape, stalking etc. Kinda a blanket term. So no, I thought about the same thing but it turns out it wasnt true.[/QUOTE] Except that my proposed scenario likely falls under sexual harassment.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50172897]I dont get how this is "Harassment" Misconduct in traditional sense I had thought.[/QUOTE] In the same way that fucking your coworker can be seen as sexual harassment.

[QUOTE=geel9;50172901]In the same way that fucking your coworker can be seen as sexual harassment.[/QUOTE] I'm lost, can you explain how 2 consenting adults fucking is sexual harassment

The same way passive aggressive people like to pass time on the internet before going out into the world and acquiescing to everything they're told to do. It's literally an imposed artificial standard that is utterly meaningless except when a holier then thou douchebag chooses to wield it as a weapon "for the greater good". *note: the greater good will be determined at a later date, all definitions are completely made up and only to be ascribed at the time of passive agressive judgement, void where prohibited, read the fine print before signing your name cause that's where we're really going to totally fuck you over

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50173069]sorry if I am being dumb but I am really really lost[/QUOTE] Don't worry, I've felt exactly this way about the entire thread.