i dont understand how the f35 could cost so much to make, and if it does, they are doing something wrong
[QUOTE=Whitefox08;38812052]F-22 was costly but there is a new design flaw due to the lack of oxygen reaching the pilot, there has been [url=http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/11/f-22-raptor-crash-not-likely-related-to-oxygen-problems-air-force/]reports[/url] of multiple pilots not wanting to fly it because of this reason.[/QUOTE]
A simple problem with a simple solution. It was due in part to the gear worn by the pilots, and one of the valves controlling the system was faulty.
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;38812548]A simple problem with a simple solution. It was due in part to the gear worn by the pilots, and one of the valves controlling the system was faulty.[/QUOTE]
I keep hearing that it was user error.
[QUOTE=Apache249;38812551]I keep hearing that it was user error.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;38812548]A simple problem with a simple solution. It was due in part to the gear worn by the pilots, and one of the valves controlling the system was faulty.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]NATIONAL HARBOR, Md. — The head of Air Combat Command on Wednesday said F-22 pilots will be trained on how to physiologically react to oxygen issues while flying the stealthy fighter, in addition to steps taken to mitigate the problems that have been plaguing the jet.
Gen. Mike Hostage said at the Air Force Association’s Air and Space Conference that the main problem with the F-22 is “human physiology,” not a hardware issue in the jet.
“There wasn’t any flaw in the airplane,” Hostage said.
In July, the Air Force said it had identified the primary root cause of physiological incidents that had been plaguing Raptor pilots as a faulty valve in the pilot’s Combat Edge life support vest. The valve connects to the plane’s oxygen supply and inflates the vest. The faulty valve was constricting the pilots’ breathing, and a fix is scheduled to be in place by the end of the year.
Last week, Air Force officials reiterated the valve as the main root cause in a House Armed Services tactical air subcommittee hearing.
“The path to resuming normal flight operations hinges on the successful development, testing and fielding of the modified Combat Edge upper pressure garment valve,” Maj. Gen. Charles Lyon, the chief of operations for ACC, said at the hearing. “This modification will successfully integrate the key component of the F-22 life support system to ensure adequate oxygen flows to the pilot while providing protection in the high altitude and high-G environments where the F-22 flies.”
Hostage on Wednesday said the problem is “human frailty,” and that officials are working on adjusting the airplane. The service will “train our aviators that the issue is work of breathing,” Hostage told Air Force Times following the conference.
The F-22 operates in a higher flight envelope than any other fighter, into the realm of the U-2 and SR-71, which had its pilots fly in spacesuits that cannot be used in the Raptor.
“The good news is the community is on track and excited about the airplane,” Hostage said.
Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Welsh on Tuesday expressed his confidence in the F-22, telling convention attendees to not believe what they hear about F-22 pilots not wanting to fly. The F-22 is fully deployable and has been sent to southwest Asia and Japan. The F-22s are taking part in the Valiant Shield exercise at Andersen Air Force Base, Guam.
“It’s amazing,” said Hostage, who has personally been flying the F-22 during the safety investigation. “The best thing about it is our adversaries watch it carefully, and it scares the hell out of them.”
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[QUOTE=GunFox;38811841]It isn't VTOL. It is a STOVL aircraft. Short take off, vertical landing. Only the Marine "B" variant of the F-35 has that capability. It, and the C (carrier capable for USN) variant, both sacrifice the internal cannon, range, and maneuverability to accomplish their extra roles. Meanwhile the A variant with the USAF is smaller, more maneuverable, and still retains a 20mm cannon. The B variant should be ditched entirely in favor of the A and C.
So, no, the Harrier which is a true VTOL aircraft is actually miles better at that.
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True, though if you are comparing the damage of the A-10's cannon to the damage done by the smaller cannons on air supremacy aircraft, or even air to air missiles, the A-10 would come out on top. That avenger cannon can tear apart main battle tanks. There isn't an aircraft in the sky, including other A-10's, that would be reasonably likely to survive a burst from the avenger. Nothing short of a naval vessel is going to survive that thing.[/QUOTE]
I was under the impression they were true VTOL or at least they were meant to be originally. That's just awful.
[QUOTE=goon165;38809243]So why do we need another more expensive and far less effective jet doing ground attack when the A-10 has and is STILL doing an exceptional job.
Really I fail to see why the F-35 needs to progress to anything other than a R&D platform, other that the pseudo-stealth everything we have now is just flat out better.[/QUOTE]
Escort.
Have a squadron of two A-10s and three F-35s.
[QUOTE=Swilly;38815972]Escort.
Have a squadron of two A-10s and three F-35s.[/QUOTE]
F-35 isn't exactly a good escort, especially when escort role should be dedicated to aircraft that can dogfight. The A-10's would kind of blow your stealthy entry.
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