[QUOTE=apierce1289;47606228]Fucking religion bullshit smh... Religion is such a crock of horse shit. Fuck these types of schools. School in general is just a giant public day care system kids only learn if they're motivated and want to.[/QUOTE]
I've personally oppressed four people today.
Where has empathy gone to? WHy are we stuck up with bureaucracy so deep that this stuff happens?
[QUOTE=urbanmonkey;47605292]dat generalization[/QUOTE]
Its not really a generalization, its just better (IMO anyway, the person your quoting could just be a bigot or something who knows) that the running of education is separated from any sort of influence. Religious schools can be some of the best schools around but there shouldn't be that influence. That said though, the religious schools that are good tend to avoid influencing the education.
I would have the same issue if a large company started running schools and having influence.
[QUOTE=Jsm;47607155]Its not really a generalization, its just better (IMO anyway, the person your quoting could just be a bigot or something who knows) that the running of education is separated from any sort of influence. Religious schools can be some of the best schools around but there shouldn't be that influence. That said though, the religious schools that are good tend to avoid influencing the education.
I would have the same issue if a large company started running schools and having influence.[/QUOTE]
I think that education should not be run by any specific religious belief system. It introduces a lot of bias that way and that's something we should have as little as possible in education. Sure, there are good religious schools but I'd rather have religion and education separate.
We got religion out of state, time to get it out of education.
OPs name fits the headline perfectly
I could understand if they held her back after missing classes, but kicking her out of school is going too far.
"hey we know you're struggling with this crippling disease so we're just gunna kick you out of school cause any sense of something normal totally wouldn't help you at all these days."
Its "your" fault that your sick, its "your" fault that you didn't attend class because you were getting treatments.
[QUOTE=urbanmonkey;47604689]they couldn't have just had her go on medical leave? obviously she still has to do the required work in order to graduate, but couldn't they have at least let her take the time off she needed then let her redo the things she missed?[/QUOTE]
The american school system is horribly blind when it comes to these things, still its really just the same as being held back a grade, though for medical reasons
[QUOTE]Rose McGrath[/QUOTE]
That last name seems oddly familiar...
Regardless my condolences to the family and fuck the school that did this
[QUOTE=Rufia;47605363]I'm sure there are plenty of perfectly good religious schools, but I just don't consider education to be an appropriate thing to be left in the hands of religious organisations.[/QUOTE]
That's funny considering the ammount of resources that the Catholic Church pour on art and science.
[QUOTE=lavacano;47605503]I would have just said "ok we can't help you much more, take the rest of the year off you can start the Nth grade again next year" but I think that would make me overqualified to run an American school[/QUOTE]
My question to you is why does this private school need to be the ones to come up with the solution?
The problem is her problem, she has a medical issue that prevented her from attending more than 32 days of the school year. Shouldn't her parents be the ones to say "She can't attend school as per the agreement we signed when we enrolled her, so we'll end her enrollment and withdraw her from the school until such time as she recovers"?
A public school would be where accommodations need to be made. That's why we call them 'public' schools, they're for everyone. The latest I read is the school has invited her back, public pressure due to "OMG, she's been ill, give her anything she wants!" feelings no doubt.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;47611361]My question to you is why does this private school need to be the ones to come up with the solution?
The problem is her problem, she has a medical issue that prevented her from attending more than 32 days of the school year. Shouldn't her parents be the ones to say "She can't attend school as per the agreement we signed when we enrolled her, so we'll end her enrollment and withdraw her from the school until such time as she recovers"?
A public school would be where accommodations need to be made. That's why we call them 'public' schools, they're for everyone. The latest I read is the school has invited her back, public pressure due to "OMG, she's been ill, give her anything she wants!" feelings no doubt.[/QUOTE]
Because you paid good money to send your kid there and both you and the kid deserve better treatment than "it's your own fault you got cancer don't bother coming back?"
Somehow with your absolutely stellar reading comprehension you missed an important point so I'll say it explicitly - nobody (repeat: NOBODY) is saying she should have just gotten a free pass into next year. She missed far too much class, she would just flunk if you did that. The parents probably didn't realize they could have pulled her out (the school probably has a no refunds clause in the agreement), so in a normal situation the school should have said "alright listen, there's no way in hell you're going to pass this year but it's not your fault, just try again next year". The family might need to pay for the retry to cover costs, sure. But the retry should have been offered from the start.
who am I kidding though, it's an American school, compassion and understanding are forbidden.
[QUOTE=Rufia;47605363]I'm sure there are plenty of perfectly good religious schools, but I just don't consider education to be an appropriate thing to be left in the hands of religious organisations.[/QUOTE]
Do you realize how shit the American government has made the public school system? Why do you think schools only teach what's going to be on state standardized tests? Public school systems can only teach what the government wants them to teach or else the teachers are out of a job. That sounds worse than a Catholic school free to reach whatever they want and let students decided what they want to take with them or not.
This by the way isn't even mentioning the fact that religion has nothing to do with this besides that it's a Catholic school. God didn't tell them to expel her. There are private schools are that secular too that I'm sure would have done the same thing.
[QUOTE=lavacano;47612270]Because you paid good money to send your kid there and both you and the kid deserve better treatment than "it's your own fault you got cancer don't bother coming back?"
Somehow with your absolutely stellar reading comprehension you missed an important point so I'll say it explicitly - nobody (repeat: NOBODY) is saying she should have just gotten a free pass into next year. She missed far too much class, she would just flunk if you did that. The parents probably didn't realize they could have pulled her out (the school probably has a no refunds clause in the agreement), so in a normal situation the school should have said "alright listen, there's no way in hell you're going to pass this year but it's not your fault, just try again next year". The family might need to pay for the retry to cover costs, sure. But the retry should have been offered from the start.
who am I kidding though, it's an American school, compassion and understanding are forbidden.[/QUOTE]
When your parents sign the paperwork your obligations are on there, attendance/conduct/dress code/etc. Signing up for that school means accepting the terms. It's contractual, compassion has nothing to do with it.
Also, saying it's an 'American' school is meaningless since we have so many different types, it's not like they are all run by the same people in the same way.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;47613079]When your parents sign the paperwork your obligations are on there, attendance/conduct/dress code/etc. Signing up for that school means accepting the terms. It's contractual, compassion has nothing to do with it.
Also, saying it's an 'American' school is meaningless since we have so many different types, it's not like they are all run by the same people in the same way.[/QUOTE]
do you realize you're justifying the school basically saying "you should have thought about that before you got cancer"
because she wasn't just some truant, there was a problem flat out preventing her from attending, and the schools response was basically to mark her as the bad guy. again, since you seem to be conveniently ignoring it, what the hell was stopping my initial suggestion of "just let her try Nth grade again next year"?
[editline]27th April 2015[/editline]
even in comtracts you're allowed to renegotiate or make exceptions for extraordinary circumstances
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