• "Burgers are not like steak" - Food Standards Agency
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Rare meat is underrated. My signature dish is medium-rare chicken on a bed of thrice-reheated rice.
[QUOTE=maxumym;50944606]I wouldn't eat any meat that still has red in it to be honest.[/QUOTE] You're missing out then, steak is ruined if you cook it more than medium rare IMO
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;50944429]if the meat is freshly-ground from non-disgusting cuts, cooking it medium rare is completely fine[/QUOTE] Exactly this, you cannot make a rare burger simply from the mince you buy in a store. However freshly ground, with skin sliced off is fine for a few hours. Restaurants require special licenses to serve burgers this way
[QUOTE=angelangel;50944746]RIP to all the pieces of meat you have raped[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=kirderf;50944767]You're missing out then, steak is ruined if you cook it more than medium rare IMO[/QUOTE] Now don't get me wrong, I respect your choice but to me it's not alike eating grasshoppers or lutefisk. I might acknowledge that a large amount of people do that, but I'm sure as hell not ordering any of that on my own. The same way as some of you may be weirded out by, say, the fact eating horse is commonplace where I'm from. Plus it's not like I've ever had steak anyway. Maybe pork steak a few times?
P.S. well-done steak is perfectly okay if you actually cook it well-done and not overdone just to make a point. The trick is to slice the meat thinly so that it cooks evenly: think stir-fried beef strips. If you rant on about how people who prefer well-done steaks are awful and how you're better than them for preferring your steak medium rare, you're a stuck-up cunt and should probably shut up.
Great thing about chicken is you don't have snobs complaining if you cook it.
[QUOTE=helifreak;50944878]Great thing about chicken is you don't have snobs complaining if you cook it.[/QUOTE] After poking around a bit, it turns out that chicken from respectable sources can be eaten raw with about the same risk as eating raw beef. The old cooking guidelines were based on absolute worst-case scenarios for contamination. These guidelines have stuck in the minds of Western societies, so it's mostly a cultural issue that we cook chicken fully. Same goes for pork, although medium rare pork is becoming more acceptable nowadays.
[QUOTE=helifreak;50944878]Great thing about chicken is you don't have snobs complaining if you cook it.[/QUOTE] Dry overcooked chicken is the worse
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;50944892]Same goes for pork, although medium rare pork is becoming more acceptable nowadays.[/QUOTE]... No, uh, no you should cook pork all the way through. Seriously, trichinosis is not at all something you want to have because it can and will kill you.
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50944979]... No, uh, no you should cook pork all the way through. Seriously, trichinosis is not at all something you want to have because it can and will kill you.[/QUOTE] The risk of acquiring it from commercially-raised pork is incredibly slim. Frankly I'd take that risk against the guarantee of having shitty pork for the rest of my life.
I understand the risk i'd just rather have no burger at all than an overcooked one.
I don't see the issue with well-done steaks. Let people eat however they'd like as long as they don't put themselves or someone else in danger.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;50944990]The risk of acquiring it from commercially-raised pork is incredibly slim. Frankly I'd take that risk against the guarantee of having shitty pork for the rest of my life.[/QUOTE]Except pork doesn't taste any better at all undercooked unlike beef and there's always the fact that trichinosis outwardly has the same symptoms as food poisoning and can progress to a serious condition without being recognized for what it is. It's a bad idea for no gain.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;50944990]The risk of acquiring it from commercially-raised pork is incredibly slim. Frankly I'd take that risk against the guarantee of having shitty pork for the rest of my life.[/QUOTE] wtf, pork isn't like steak where cooking it fully kills the flavour and juiciness.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;50944990]The risk of acquiring it from commercially-raised pork is incredibly slim. Frankly I'd take that risk against the guarantee of having shitty pork for the rest of my life.[/QUOTE] clearly never had good pork
Medium rare is almost always the best way to cook steak. [editline]25th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=FalloutAddict;50944327]What's the appeal of eating basically raw meat anyway? It repulses me.[/QUOTE] Rare is not raw you loon
Different levels of cook for different cuts. A fillet shouldn't be over medium. A sirloin can be well if done right. (Lot of people can't do it right, and end up over done) I like to live dangerously with my home made burgers cooked medium. But there are more important factors like seasoning and fat ratio that determines whether it's a good burger or not.
[QUOTE=Nebukadnezzer;50945383]Medium rare is almost always the best way to cook steak. [/QUOTE] I like Rare but when I order at a restaurant I always get medium rare so there's wiggle room. I don't want to get some chef with a hangover barely searing the outside and the inside is basically cold all the way through [editline]25th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Headhumpy;50944990]The risk of acquiring it from commercially-raised pork is incredibly slim. Frankly I'd take that risk against the guarantee of having shitty pork for the rest of my life.[/QUOTE] Here's what you do with pork, you brine it for like 8 hours then cook it through. It's super moist and the flavour is amazing and you aren't risking getting sick. You do the same thing with chicken and turkey. Never have a depressing dry piece of meat again
I fucking LOVE raw steak. I've always known that rare burgers aren't the same as a quality cut of rare steak, but the chances are so low, and the amount of rare burgers ive had in my life time is proof that the risks are very low. I have to say though rare lamb in a Tbone is my absolute fave.
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50944979]... No, uh, no you should cook pork all the way through. Seriously, trichinosis is not at all something you want to have because it can and will kill you.[/QUOTE] I thought the same thing and was corrected when I commented on it once- apparently the FDA has relaxed their requirements because trichinosis has been virtually eliminated. They still recommend cooking it to at least medium, but it doesn't have to be the well-done-all-the-way-through it used to be to be safe. It needs to be actually cooked and I certainly wouldn't eat it raw, but apparently ordering a pork chop medium isn't considered irresponsibly risky anymore. Chicken, on the other hand, still needs to be thoroughly cooked, because salmonella is a bitch.
[QUOTE=catbarf;50945555]I thought the same thing and was corrected when I commented on it once- apparently the FDA has relaxed their requirements because trichinosis has been virtually eliminated. They still recommend cooking it to at least medium, but it doesn't have to be the well-done-all-the-way-through it used to be to be safe. It needs to be actually cooked and I certainly wouldn't eat it raw, but apparently ordering a pork chop medium isn't considered irresponsibly risky anymore. Chicken, on the other hand, still needs to be thoroughly cooked, because salmonella is a bitch.[/QUOTE] You can eat [I][URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLRb20FEBu8"]some[/URL][/I] chicken raw still.
Rare cooked burgers looks disgusting. Rare steak however looks beautiful.
Wat. I never order burgers as rare as I have steaks, but the article mentions you shouldn't have them "rare" and then says that there should be no pink in it. Does the word "medium" not exist in their vocabulary? Like, I've had food poisoning a few times in my life, but never from a medium burger.
I've eaten plenty of medium rare burgers and haven't died once.
[QUOTE=catbarf;50945555]I thought the same thing and was corrected when I commented on it once- apparently the FDA has relaxed their requirements because trichinosis has been virtually eliminated. They still recommend cooking it to at least medium, but it doesn't have to be the well-done-all-the-way-through it used to be to be safe. It needs to be actually cooked and I certainly wouldn't eat it raw, but apparently ordering a pork chop medium isn't considered irresponsibly risky anymore. Chicken, on the other hand, still needs to be thoroughly cooked, because salmonella is a bitch.[/QUOTE]I just don't see the point in even risking it, uncooked pork has a gross texture and tastes the same as cooked pork only not as hot which makes it inferior.
I was never a fan of burgers, minus veggie ones, for the longest time growing up because my dad's side of the family were just the worst cooks :v: It was either brown on just the outside and practically cold in the middle, or like trying to eat a fucking hockey puck, even as a vegetarian now I still give people who cook steak well-done shit, but burgers shouldn't be pink in the middle at all, that's like eating chicken 'rare'
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50945678]I just don't see the point in even risking it, uncooked pork has a gross texture and tastes the same as cooked pork only not as hot which makes it inferior.[/QUOTE] Yeah, you're not supposed to eat it [i]raw[/i], it's just that you can safely eat pork that's been cooked medium rather than well-done. It's still cooked, just not cooked to the point of being tough and stringy which has historically been the recommendation. I don't really eat pork so this is pretty much academic to me, just thought it was interesting.
[QUOTE=catbarf;50945772]Yeah, you're not supposed to eat it [i]raw[/i], it's just that you can safely eat pork that's been cooked medium rather than well-done. It's still cooked, [B]just not cooked to the point of being tough and stringy[/B] which has historically been the recommendation. I don't really eat pork so this is pretty much academic to me, just thought it was interesting.[/QUOTE] I've had pork cooked well-done without being tough and stringy, and it's miles better than medium.
This thread is an excellent example of why beef is the worst meat Because no two people on the planet can fucking agree on how to cook it and stop just short of waging holy wars over it
Who eats rare burgers? Just the thought of flabby, slimy, under cooked meat makes me feel ill.
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