FBI seizes ‘Silk Road' black market domain, arrests founder - Polidicks

I'm actually baffled that people would defend a service that would have had someone killed to protect there own interests

[QUOTE=Saxon;42380601]I'm actually baffled that people would defend a service that had someone killed to protect there own interests[/QUOTE] That isn't confirmed. There is no record of a homicide.

[QUOTE=Saxon;42380601]I'm actually baffled that people would defend a service that would have had someone killed to protect there own interests[/QUOTE] Huge Boss directly contributed to the murder of jews.

[QUOTE=Saxon;42380601]I'm actually baffled that people would defend a service that would have had someone killed to protect there own interests[/QUOTE] everything the government says is true :downs:

[QUOTE=Saxon;42380601]I'm actually baffled that people would defend a service that would have had someone killed to protect there own interests[/QUOTE] But, its better than dealing on the street, having thousands of people killed.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;42379877]What exactly does he get charged with? It's not like he was ever in possession of anything, he just ran a marketplace. Sort of the same problem as with charging torrent site owners.[/QUOTE] He took a cut from every transaction (like eBay), coupled to an escrow service, and he knew exactly what was going on. Torrent sites and such are only protected if they take down content by request, on the basis that you can't be expected to moderate everything all the time. [QUOTE=pdp;42380017]What crimes exactly were he committing? That's like arresting the founder of eBay for a user selling something illegal. But then again, why am I even questioning the way things are run at this point? Arbitrary laws are enforced with inane amounts of effort.[/QUOTE] As above. eBay doesn't allow sales of contraband (taking it down and cooperating with authorities). Silk Road explicitly does. Where did you see that's how they caught him? [QUOTE=Stephen427sf;42380143]Fucking pricks there goes my costumers base. im so fed up by this shit, looks like i have go dealing on the streets again. Oh wait i cant beceuse i also have a real job to attend to gg fbi.[/QUOTE] I feel sorry for your customers.

Have people really come down to accepting that money laundering, distribution of heroine and other high profile drugs is acceptable? This place just wasn't selling cannibis I must be behind the times

Jesus fuck, I was like one day away from my shit being put in transit. Ughhhhhhhhhhh

[QUOTE=Saxon;42380166]A few kids have died here the past year and a half from drugs that came from Silk Road glad to hear it was closed down[/QUOTE] Because street dealers are so much more preferable, right?

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;42380116]I predict Bitcoins will start tanking and will likely never recover.[/QUOTE] They were never a proper currency anyways.

[QUOTE=Saxon;42380832]Have people really come down to accepting that money laundering, distribution of heroine and other high profile drugs is acceptable? This place just wasn't selling cannibis I must be behind the times[/QUOTE] It was safe for the buyer and user I mean I don't like the idea of people buying heroine but well they are and they might as well buy it from the place that is the safest for everyone involved. I'd rather people buy drugs online than from a dealer in person, which is much more realistic than buying online or not at all

[QUOTE=Saxon;42380832]Have people really come down to accepting that money laundering, distribution of heroine and other high profile drugs is acceptable? This place just wasn't selling cannibis I must be behind the times[/QUOTE] The money laundering is a result of drugs being illegal which shouldn't be. And yes, I am fine with the sale of heroin. I'd never do it, but I don't think the government should be telling people what they can put in their own bodies. So, in short, yes.

[QUOTE=Saxon;42380832]Have people really come down to accepting that money laundering, distribution of heroine and other high profile drugs is acceptable? This place just wasn't selling cannibis I must be behind the times[/QUOTE] it provided an option to obtain safe quality narcotics. Whether you like it or not people take drugs and SR was a pretty good way of people doing it safely. The mdma I've got on there has always been way better and less cut than street mandy

[QUOTE=Lazore;42380042]Nope, now there will be more street violence because more people have to hit the streets.[/QUOTE] Which means more people in prison, feeding the prison industrial complex. So it's a win in the "war on drugs".

Awesome

Bitcoins dropped thirty dollars in less than an hour. There are not brakes on the Happening train.

BTW, the way they caught the guy was a routine inspection of a package that was delivered to his house that contained 9 sets of false ID (which he was going to use to rent more server space) [url]http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonrad/2013/10/02/feds-shut-down-silk-road-owner-known-as-dread-pirate-roberts-arrested/[/url]

Some info from a reddit guy on r/silkroad [QUOTE]This has been a joint operation run the cybercrime squad within the FBI's New York field office. It involved the FBI, DEA, IRS and Homeland Security's investigative unit. --- It's unstated from when the investigation started, but they received a complete copy of the Silk Road web server on the 23rd of July 2013. This was all done under the Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty, which implies that they had access to current site information up until the point they shut the site down. This included user account and transaction information. It's unclear whether or not this covers addresses and other sensitive transaction information. **This also apparently covers at least 60 days worth of messages from the period where the site was copied. From February 6, 2011 to July 23 2013, 9,519,664BTC was generated in sales, 614,305BTC going directly to DPR in the way of "commissions". This comes to a total of 1,229,465 transactions. Based on the copy of the site which the FBI received, they believe DPR to have been the sole operator and owner of SR, handling all aspects of the site himself and delegating only user affairs to appointed moderators. --- In March of this year, a SR user/vendor called "FriendlyChemist" attempted to extort DPR via SR's private message system, providing proof that he had the names/addresses of thousands of vendors/users after having allegedly hacked a bigger vendor. He demanded $500,000USD, saying that he needed the money to pay off his supplier. DPR then stated that he wished to speak to FriendlyChemist's supplier. A user called "redandwhite" then proceeded to contact DPR, stating that he was FriendlyChemist's supplier and also the owner of his debt. DPR then solicited redandwhite to "execute" FriendlyChemist, supplying redandwhite his full name and address. After having agreed on terms, DPR sent redandwhite approximately $150,000USD (1,670BTC) to have FriendlyChemist killed. redandwhite later provided photographic proof of the alleged murder. Investigators could not find any record of somebody in that region being killed around that date or matching that description. This possibly implies that DPR was duped/scammed, but, DPR is also quoted as having told redandwhite the following: "Not long ago, I had a clean hit done for 80k." --- DPR has been identified as Ross William Ulbricht. > "He is 29 years old, graduated from the University of Texas with a Bachelor of Science degree in Physics in 2006. From 2006 to 2010, he attended graduate school at the University of Pennsylvania School of Materials Science and Engineering." His LinkedIn profile is at: [url]http://www.linkedin.com/in/rossulbricht[/url] Now, onto how he got caught... An agent involved in the investigation ("Agent-1"), found the first few references to SR on the internet from somebody only identified as "altoid", attempting to promote the site in its beginning days, in January of 2011. In October of the same year, a user also going by the name of "altoid" made a posting on Bitcoin Talk titled "a venture backed Bitcoin startup company", which directed interested users to "rossulbricht at gmail dot com". That email address is what led to DPR's downfall. --- After identifying "altoid", they started connecting the "DPR" identity to Ulbricht pretty quickly. Ulbricht's Google+ page and YouTube profile both make multiple references to the a website dubbed the "Mises Institute". DPR's signature on the SR forums contained a link to the Mises Institute. DPR cited the "Austrian Economic theory" along with the works of Ludwig von Mises and Murray Rothbard, all of which are closesly associated with the Mises Institute. Server logs show that someone logged onto the SR administration panel from San Fransisco around the same time that Ulbricht was staying in San Fransisco. Multiple fake IDs were intercepted by U.S. Customs & Border Patrol while on their way to an address which Ulbricht was living at the time. These IDs all carried photos of Ulbricht but had false names and details. This was around the same time that DPR stated in a message that he was acquiring some fake IDs to buy new servers. When questioned by Homeland Security about the fake IDs, he refused to answer any questions but then stated that anyone could purchase such things using "Silk Road" and "Tor". The address which Ulbricht was staying at was being rented in cash and he was living with housemates who knew him under a name which corresponded with one of the fake IDs. He posted on StackOverflow using his real name, inquiring about how to use curl/PHP to grab things off Tor, before quickly changing the name to "frosty" (with a fake email: [email]frosty@frosty.com[/email])[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;42380294]I'm actually surprised how many people rated this winner. Thought FP had more sense.[/QUOTE] FP bandwagon mentality. People hate it because it's cool to hate it, not even understanding why they do so.

[quote]He posted on StackOverflow using his real name, inquiring about how to use curl/PHP to grab things off Tor, before quickly changing the name to "frosty" (with a fake email: [email]frosty@frosty.com[/email])[/quote] Truly a criminal mastermind.

For FUCKS sake, the only thing this does is make people like me who occasionally enjoy recreational drugs go back down to meeting irritating street level dealers. GG FBI you morons. It was the safest and most source of many psychedelic substances and for the most part kept the money out of the hands of serious organised crime. Does this have any implications for people who've purchased on SR?

[QUOTE=NorthernFall;42381487]For FUCKS sake, the only thing this does is make people like me who occasionally enjoy recreational drugs go back down to meeting irritating street level dealers. GG FBI you morons. It was the safest and most source of many psychedelic substances and for the most part kept the money out of the hands of serious organised crime. Does this have any implications for people who've purchased on SR?[/QUOTE] Them going after possibly millions of people seems unlikely. However it does say the FBI received a copy of the website from July onwards, at which point any transaction that passed through SR wouldve been seen by them. I still doubt they will go after buyers though. Im amazed he was operating in New York, I was getting ready to complain about "world police" but he was right at the FBIs doorstep.

I wonder if they'd actually conduct a massive drug bust effort after obtaining customer info

[QUOTE=Foogooman;42381530]I wonder if they'd actually conduct a massive drug bust effort after obtaining customer info[/QUOTE] I know someone who knows someone who orders like 1,000-10,000 MDMA pills in one order from that site. If he didn't use PGP, I'd imagine he'd be one of the guys on the DEA's radar.

I thought the address you typed for the vendors was deleted after it was marked sent. I never used my actual home address anyway but still :/. I can only hope that since the FBI have it, they're not targeting the vendors from outside the USA but you never know in this age of world police and the UK government completely rimming America's arse. Also imagine what this is doing for the big time sellers on SR, people were selling Weed by the lb in the hidden listings, hope they got their BTC out in time.

[QUOTE=NorthernFall;42381605]I thought the address you typed for the vendors was deleted after it was marked sent. Also imagine what this is doing for the big time sellers on SR, people were selling Weed by the lb in the hidden listings, hope they got their BTC out in time.[/QUOTE] I can understand a few tabs of acid or a vial of some other liquid variant.. But how the HELL did they ship pounds of the stuff? Several small packages or what? If there's anything the government can learn from this debacle it is security..

[QUOTE=pdp;42380017]What crimes exactly were he committing? That's like arresting the founder of eBay for a user selling something illegal. [/QUOTE] The main difference being that eBay doesn't actively encourage and enable illegal activity, which is literally the only thing that Silk Road does.

[QUOTE=ghosevil;42381635]I can understand a few tabs of acid or a vial of some other liquid variant.. But how the HELL did they ship pounds of the stuff? Several small packages or what? If there's anything the government can learn from this debacle it is security..[/QUOTE] As far as I can tell the vendors bleached all the packaging before shipping so the smell would be minimal. You're not strictly speaking encouraged to talk about the packaging/ stealth methods each vendor uses, in case law enforcement/ shady bastards read it and could make an I.D on packages from certain sellers so you never really know what they come up with until it arrives :v:.

[QUOTE=NorthernFall;42381670]As far as I can tell the vendors bleached all the packaging before shipping so the smell would be minimal. You're not encouraged to talk about the packaging/ stealth methods each vendor uses in case law enforcement/ shady bastards read it and could make an I.D on packages from certain sellers so you never really know what they come up with until it arrives :v:.[/QUOTE] One time I got a highlighter pen. I thought I got scammed because there seemed to be no way you could put something in there but it ended up being in there after painstakingly cutting it in half. [QUOTE=ghosevil;42381635]I can understand a few tabs of acid or a vial of some other liquid variant.. But how the HELL did they ship pounds of the stuff? Several small packages or what? If there's anything the government can learn from this debacle it is security..[/QUOTE] Vaccum-sealed. USPS processes millions of mail articles per day and they operate on a very low budget, it is almost impossible for them inspect every package. No one ships via FedEx or UPS.

As far as I'm concerned as I'm probably late on this aswell: couldn't you order just about anything on the silk road?