FBI seizes ‘Silk Road' black market domain, arrests founder - Polidicks

isn't FBI suspended?

Hopefully, the successor to SR will not do the same mistakes

[QUOTE=Starpluck;42381692]One time I got a highlighter pen. I thought I got scammed because there seemed to be no way you could put something in there but it ended up being in there after painstakingly cutting it in half. Vaccum-sealed. USPS processes millions of mail articles per day and they operate on a very low budget, it is almost impossible for them inspect every package. No one ships via FedEx or UPS.[/QUOTE] One time I got a box of crayons which, when cut open, each contained a vial of BHO. Those dudes are super crafty.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;42379877]What exactly does he get charged with? It's not like he was ever in possession of anything, he just ran a marketplace. Sort of the same problem as with charging torrent site owners.[/QUOTE] It was a site exclusively for drugs, unlike torrent sites which are for sharing files using a p2p system, not specifically illegal content.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;42382464]Should people be allowed to kill themselves? It's their body and they can do whatever they want with it.[/QUOTE] How come certain drugs are legally acceptable even though they kill far more people than illegal ones (alcohol, tobacco, all pharmaceuticals)?

[QUOTE=jesse1412;42383822]It was a site exclusively for drugs, unlike torrent sites which are for sharing files using a p2p system, not specifically illegal content.[/QUOTE] Again there were a multitude of things being sold on the site, "Drugs" was only one category in a massive list of things including porn, movies, video games, e-books, shoes, furniture, computer hardware, etc. It was an unregulated market, people sold what they wanted. There was nothing "exclusive" about it.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;42379877]What exactly does he get charged with? It's not like he was ever in possession of anything, he just ran a marketplace. Sort of the same problem as with charging torrent site owners.[/QUOTE] He got caught at some border with loads of fake IDs that he was gonna use to buy more servers. If they cant charge him for SR itself, they can at least charge him for that

[QUOTE=Lazore;42381300]Some info from a reddit guy on r/silkroad[/QUOTE] [quote]In March of this year, a SR user/vendor called "FriendlyChemist" attempted to extort DPR via SR's private message system, providing proof that he had the names/addresses of thousands of vendors/users after having allegedly hacked a bigger vendor. He demanded $500,000USD, saying that he needed the money to pay off his supplier. DPR then stated that he wished to speak to FriendlyChemist's supplier. A user called "redandwhite" then proceeded to contact DPR, stating that he was FriendlyChemist's supplier and also the owner of his debt. DPR then solicited redandwhite to "execute" FriendlyChemist, supplying redandwhite his full name and address. After having agreed on terms, DPR sent redandwhite approximately $150,000USD (1,670BTC) to have FriendlyChemist killed. redandwhite later provided photographic proof of the alleged murder. Investigators could not find any record of somebody in that region being killed around that date or matching that description. This possibly implies that DPR was duped/scammed, but, DPR is also quoted as having told redandwhite the following: "Not long ago, I had a clean hit done for 80k."[/quote] Now I'm wondering whether redandwhite was just FriendlyChemist's other account, and he still ended up getting money from DPR and setting him up for conspiracy to commit murder.

back to my shitty dealer then

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;42382464]Should people be allowed to kill themselves? It's their body and they can do whatever they want with it.[/QUOTE] yea lol

[QUOTE=Lazore;42384041]He got caught at some border with loads of fake IDs that he was gonna use to buy more servers. If they cant charge him for SR itself, they can at least charge him for that[/QUOTE] Hes gonna go down pretty hard for SR I imagine, his bank statements alone will get him some hard time. The report goes into pretty heavy detail how they pinned him with SR. I'm curious what his thoughts were when he started this endeavor. Did he plan to eventually go down as some kind of martyr for libertarianism? Or was he just arrogant enough to think that he could run an operation like that on the U.S shores and evade the federal government.

[QUOTE=helpiminabox;42382517]Yes.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42382598]Yes, absolutely, because by and large their reasons are very deep and troubling. Should absolutely try to get them help first, but if all else fails, its not right to force people to suffer. That said, if you want to argue against drug use, you're going about it the entirely wrong way.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Furioso;42382810]Of course? It's their body, it's their life[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=yawmwen;42384197]yea lol[/QUOTE] I'll keep this in mind next time someone commits suicide because of depression, bullying, or whatever else.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;42384460]I'll keep this in mind next time someone commits suicide because of depression, bullying, or whatever else.[/QUOTE] what does that even mean?

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;42384460]I'll keep this in mind next time someone commits suicide because of depression, bullying, or whatever else.[/QUOTE] Good for you?

I'm honestly not surprised. Come on, its a site that sells illegal drugs, among other things. The feds are all over sites like that, especially when retards advertise for it on public, popular forums. Did you really think the feds wouldn't catch onto that? The FBI isn't as dumb as everyone thinks.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;42384460]I'll keep this in mind next time someone commits suicide because of depression, bullying, or whatever else.[/QUOTE] u silly i like your way of thinkin fuck logic

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;42384460]I'll keep this in mind next time someone commits suicide because of depression, bullying, or whatever else.[/QUOTE] Being forced to commit suicide due to psychological problems caused by trauma, bullying, depression, whatever != rationally choosing to commit suicide whilst of sound mind after considering the impact and reason you want to do it. One is treatable and only really ends up in suicide due to someone not receiving much needed help, a suicide out of desperation, and the other is a calculated decision that they'd sooner not be alive, as in the case of people suffering from some chronic or terminal illnesses, or just wanting to avoid old age. We can criticise a system that forces people to commit suicide due to inadequacies in the social/health care sector whilst still understanding that in some cases suicide is a perfectly rational and acceptable thing. Your life, you can choose why, when and how to end it.

At least he didn't pull a heisenberg.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;42384460]I'll keep this in mind next time someone commits suicide because of depression, bullying, or whatever else.[/QUOTE] Sounds fairly selfish to force a person to keep on living if they truly feel their life isn't going to get better. In my limited experience, the best way to stop someone from committing suicide is to show how much you care for that person, as well as informing them about what alternatives they have, because I can't imagine someone who would go as far as trying to take their own life would do it as anything other than a last resort. At least, that's what helped me. And it didn't take a single choice away from me.

No worries, someone else will take over eventually, won't take long.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;42384460]I'll keep this in mind next time someone commits suicide because of depression, bullying, or whatever else.[/QUOTE] What. Just because we think they should be allowed to themselves doesn't mean we think they should kill themselves. If they kill themselves, how does saying they committed a crime change anything? THEY'RE DEAD. Children who are being bullied, for instance, wouldn't be allowed to kill themselves. They can't yet make a rational decision in the matter. (Not that suicide is usually rational) There are just so many things wrong with your post.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;42382464]Should people be allowed to kill themselves? It's their body and they can do whatever they want with it.[/QUOTE] Yes, and they are actually allowed to do so.

[QUOTE=UziXxX;42384540]I'm honestly not surprised. Come on, its a site that sells illegal drugs, among other things. The feds are all over sites like that, especially when retards advertise for it on public, popular forums. Did you really think the feds wouldn't catch onto that? The FBI isn't as dumb as everyone thinks.[/QUOTE] I'm not surprised, I just don't approve of this. Christ.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;42379870]GG FBI, you just killed the most responsible and safest way to obtain legitimate drugs uncut. Fucking idiots.[/QUOTE] [I]When one falls, another arises![/I]

It seems to me like this guy was probably committing some crimes. He should be arrested for the crimes he committed. SR is the closest thing to a safe source of quality drugs the US has ever seen IMO. It is a shame that we lost that, but if the guy was committing crimes he took that chance and lost the gamble. If drugs were seen as they should be in this country, SR would not need to exist, and as such, we wouldn't be mourning the loss of a good service because the only way that service could exist is if it were run by criminals. Just another case of the legislators and law enforcement blaming drugs rather than the system they have in place to deal with their use. Again, to the complainers of children dying from drugs bought on silk road, if education and availability were the norms they would not have been victims of uneducated, unregulated drug use.

[QUOTE=frozensoda;42385181]It seems to me like this guy was probably committing some crimes.[/QUOTE] Do you have a single fact to back that up? No government slander pls.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;42384877]What. Just because we think they should be allowed to themselves doesn't mean we think they should kill themselves. If they kill themselves, [b]how does saying they committed a crime change anything? THEY'RE DEAD.[/b] Children who are being bullied, for instance, [b]wouldn't be allowed[/b] to kill themselves. They can't yet make a rational decision in the matter. (Not that suicide is usually rational) There are just so many things wrong with your post.[/QUOTE] ? Because children who take their own lives up until now have been getting permission beforehand

[QUOTE=Eudoxia;42385228]Do you have a single fact to back that up? No government slander pls.[/QUOTE] no, I just got the feeling that he was probably committing crimes. I do not have to abide by the innocent until proven guilty tautology, I am not in any position to imprison him. My point was this wouldn't even be a thing if people weren't forced into using criminal services to obtain quality, safe drugs.

Now I have actually leave the house and possibly get shanked Fuck man

[QUOTE=Starpluck;42379870]GG FBI, you just killed the most responsible and safest way to obtain legitimate drugs uncut. Fucking idiots.[/QUOTE] Is widespread easy access to coke and meth a good thing? I know FP is overwhelmingly pro-drugs, but even the hard stuff that really messes people up and ruins lives? And the FBI is the bad guy for enforcing the law on that? I'm all for legalizing pot and really don't mind LSD, ecstasy, and other 'soft' drugs but I think you oughta draw a line somewhere and SR was selling everything.