Dash Cam Catches Police Officer Dropping the Ball.
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[QUOTE=avincent;43612827]Meanwhile in the comments..[/QUOTE]
This is one of the funniest things I've ever read in a while. Burst out laughing.
Everytime I hear the news, it's something about a bad cop shooting an innocent, breaking the law themselves, and murdering people in cold blood. which can warp the mind severely thinking that all cops are bad, but you do hear a bit of good news here and there of cops doing the right thing, however from our own point of view and what we saw and witness, we have very few cops, and many bad ones...
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];43614298']I'm not even going to give you that. If you seriously can not understand how someone who is literally forced into a prison, might not have the full ability to make decisions based on total free will and not out of necessity, then I'm sorry but I'm not going to waste a paragraph on that one.[/QUOTE]
please give me statistics on government forced labor camps pls.
Last time the US did anything remotely like that was WWII so don't go and quote that either.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;43613596]Out of genuine respect and curiosity. If not cops, than what we would we have to ensure safety and order of communities?[/QUOTE]
Autobots of course
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;43613577]As an anarchist, I recognize that cops are people and aren't all bad. I fundamentally disagree with the idea of cops and I think they have unjust authority, but that doesn't mean I think all cops are evil.[/QUOTE]
Anarchists are the only social/political movement that regularly beat the degree to which Stalinism grade communists and Golden Dawn grade fascists are delusional and misled to.
So what would you anarchists do with murderers? You can't ship them to some inhospitable island, Britain beat you to it and they founded a country, so what's left? You going to kill them? You going to just let them live around you, at risk of killing someone else? You going to exile them to another community so it's "not your problem?" Or are you going to segregate them so they don't kill anyone there or abroad until they can be "rehabilitated," if it's even possible, thus justifying the existence of a prison system.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;43619242]So what would you anarchists do with murderers? You can't ship them to some inhospitable island, Britain beat you to it and they founded a country, so what's left? You going to kill them? You going to just let them live around you, at risk of killing someone else? You going to exile them to another community so it's "not your problem?" Or are you going to segregate them so they don't kill anyone there or abroad until they can be "rehabilitated," if it's even possible, thus justifying the existence of a prison system.[/QUOTE]
They wouldn't have to do anything, because nobody would ever murder anyone.
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;43613577]As an anarchist, I recognize that cops are people and aren't all bad. I fundamentally disagree with the idea of cops and I think they have unjust authority, but that doesn't mean I think all cops are evil.[/QUOTE]
Then you are no true anarchist.
This was supposed to be a heart warming video about a cop, and you nerds derail the thread discussing about anarchy. What.
To the people claiming we dont have forced labor in prison you are wrong. Prisoners in the US make everything from license plates and ammo belts, to office furniture. If you dont work you may be punished, either directly with solitary or some other punishment, or indirectly by unfair treatment by the guards. The department of defense gets a lot of its supplies through Unicor, which because it is listed as "job training" or "rehabilitative" can be made mandatory for inmates.
Here you go, products made by inmates right here in the USA: [url]http://www.unicor.gov/[/url]
[quote=bop.gov] FPI work assignments pay from 23¢ to $1.15 per hour.[/quote]
[QUOTE=imptastick;43620734]To the people claiming we dont have forced labor in prison you are wrong. Prisoners in the US make everything from license plates and ammo belts, to office furniture. If you dont work you may be punished, either directly with solitary or some other punishment, or indirectly by unfair treatment by the guards. The department of defense gets a lot of its supplies through Unicor, which because it is listed as "job training" or "rehabilitative" can be made mandatory for inmates.
Here you go, products made by inmates right here in the USA: [URL]http://www.unicor.gov/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[URL]http://www.unicor.gov/services/contact_helpdesk/index.asp[/URL]
[quote]Imagine... All the benefits of domestic outsourcing at offshore prices. It's the best kept secret in outsourcing![/quote]
I sense some dark overtones with that quote.
"Why hire a cheap call center in Asia when you can get them right here in the US?"
throwin around the ole pigskin eh??
haghaahahrahaa
A thread that's about a nice guy playing catch with a kid, completely fucked because someone mentioned anarchists.
I hope you're satisfied.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;43618955]Anarchists are the only social/political movement that regularly beat the degree to which Stalinism grade communists and Golden Dawn grade fascists are delusional and misled to.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand how anyone can be a serious anarchist. Its just not a feasible ideology, like how true communism isn't feasible.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;43619242]So what would you anarchists do with murderers? You can't ship them to some inhospitable island, Britain beat you to it and they founded a country, so what's left? You going to kill them? You going to just let them live around you, at risk of killing someone else? You going to exile them to another community so it's "not your problem?" Or are you going to segregate them so they don't kill anyone there or abroad until they can be "rehabilitated," if it's even possible, thus justifying the existence of a prison system.[/QUOTE]
They are to be rehabilitated, or put into a mental institution if they are not fit for rehabilitation. If they resist everything, they are exiled from the society, and other societies are alerted of the person, and the offender is basically off on their own.
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[QUOTE=cdr248;43620479]Then you are no true anarchist.[/QUOTE]
Haha, ok, then what is a "true anarchist"?
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;43622238]They are to be rehabilitated, or put into a mental institution if they are not fit for rehabilitation. If they resist everything, they are exiled from the society, and other societies are alerted of the person, and the offender is basically off on their own.[/QUOTE]
And who exactly will rehabilitate them? In fact who will actually make them go to said rehabilitation place if there are no cops? Where exactly will you exile people to? No other countries want your criminals, they're yours. Who will run these institutions if there is no state? Do you expect people to do this out of charity?
Hell the idea of exiling people sounds more barbaric than what America currently has.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;43621656]I don't understand how anyone can be a serious anarchist. Its just not a feasible ideology, like how true communism isn't feasible.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;43618955]Anarchists are the only social/political movement that regularly beat the degree to which Stalinism grade communists and Golden Dawn grade fascists are delusional and misled to.[/QUOTE]
Care to actually throw an argument down on the table?
So people actually fight over the video of a guy playing ball with someone because of his particular job.
.. I don't get it at all.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;43622279]And who exactly will rehabilitate them? In fact who will actually make them go to said rehabilitation place if there are no cops? Where exactly will you exile people to? No other countries want your criminals, they're yours. Who will run these institutions if there is no state? Do you expect people to do this out of charity?
Hell the idea of exiling people sounds more barbaric than what America currently has.[/QUOTE]
They will be rehabilitated in voluntary rehabilitation centers, similar to drug rehab centers, and if they are mentally unfit, they will be forced by the community into a mental institution. If they refuse and won't cooperate, they are no longer allowed inside of the society and will basically have to live off who ever is charitable enough to give them their own personal property, or make and get everything themselves. They aren't being deported, they are just not allowed in cities/towns/community property until they agree to rehabilitation. The community would run these institutions, not from charity, but because its for the good of the community, or out of their own personal interests. If a person doesn't want to work with the society or wants to hurt the society, they will not be allowed into it. That isn't barbaric, that is self defence.
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;43622379]They will be rehabilitated in voluntary rehabilitation centers, similar to drug rehab centers, and if they are mentally unfit, they will be forced by the community into a mental institution. If they refuse and won't cooperate, they are no longer allowed inside of the society and will basically have to live off who ever is charitable enough to give them their own personal property, or make and get everything themselves. They aren't being deported, they are just not allowed in cities/towns/community property until they agree to rehabilitation. The community would run these institutions, not from charity, but because its for the good of the community, or out of their own personal interests. If a person doesn't want to work with the society or wants to hurt the society, they will not be allowed into it. That isn't barbaric, that is self defence.[/QUOTE]
And what if nobody wants to work in your rehabilitation centres because there is no intentive to do so? This sounds like such a flimsy way of running things it could never work in reality. States make things efficient, certainly more efficient than trying to run everything on good will (which would never work in reality)
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;43614583]childish insult for a childish ideology ;)[/QUOTE]
Being in the "anarchism/absolute libertarianism is a joke" camp is understandable, but that doesn't mean you have to stoop down to drive-by insults that help no one.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;43622423]And what if nobody wants to work in your rehabilitation centres because there is no intentive to do so? This sounds like such a flimsy way of running things it could never work in reality. States make things efficient, certainly more efficient than trying to run everything on good will (which would never work in reality)[/QUOTE]
The incentive is the personal want to do it, and for the community's good. Pretending that the only incentive for work is money is ridiculous and completely ignorant of the past. What about societies that run on community incentive? What about people that help others in times of tragic events such as 9/11? What about the people like Charles Darwin who was already rich and set for life, but was still determined to work in science and make incredible theories? What about life in civilizations before currency was invented? Further more, systems like this HAVE worked in reality. Look at the anarchist territories in the Spanish revolution, the Free Territory in Ukraine, or the EZLN territory in Mexico.
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;43622479]The incentive is the personal want to do it, and for the community's good. Pretending that the only incentive for work is money is ridiculous and completely ignorant of the past. What about societies that run on community incentive? What about people that help others in times of tragic events such as 9/11? What about the people like Charles Darwin who was already rich and set for life, but was still determined to work in science and make incredible theories? What about life in civilizations before currency was invented? Further more, systems like this HAVE worked in reality. Look at the anarchist territories in the Spanish revolution, the Free Territory in Ukraine, or the EZLN territory in Mexico.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I don't see many people wanting to work around dangerous criminals for free really. Why would I do that kind of work when I can be a street sweeper and get all the same benefits? Good will can work in small specific areas but not on a mass scale like you seem to be proposing. Yes people helped in 9/11 for free, but how many people do you think will become doctors for fun? Not nearly enough, only a society where you reward people for their efforts will produce enough people willing to go through all that training to be a doctor
Also many of those Anarchist societies tended to border on the tyrannical themselves, using violence and so on to get their way.
In an anarchist society you also have a huge problem with tyranny of the majority, since everything is done on the basis of what the majority want.
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;43612865][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktwd14-mgE8[/media]
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Pretty awesome for the cop to participate in the community that way. It is good to know that there are cops that want to show that there are good apples in the bunch, even if the saying goes "One bad apple ruins the bunch". Though a better explanation is that he was bored and looking for something to do.
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