• Russia 'seizes' Greenpeace ship. 29 arrested at gunpoint.
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[QUOTE=crazyjames;42253957]Everyone who has rated you dumb has no idea what they are ingesting and dont really care because half of the artificial and super sweeteners have damaged their brains to the point of no return. Ie: High fructose corn syrup, Aspartame, Splenda. Its so naive to believe that Splicing genes has no ill effects. Im still waiting to see some actually studies that say GMOs are in fact 'good for you'. Or actually have a higher yield to organic crops. Prove me wrong. I bet you cant do it.[/QUOTE]We rate him dumb because the first source is a horrendously biased site belonging to some whacko organisation with no credibility other than a fancy logo, and the second is a conspiracy nut radio show. You should also consider sodomising yourself with a cactus if you're going to shift the burden of proof onto other people.
[QUOTE=catbarf;42253985]Forcibly boarding a foreign vessel or installation in a special economic zone is widely regarded as a bad move.[/QUOTE] Except they boarded from other boats, I have yet to read any proof this ship was actually involved. Look, even if they did have something to do with it, even if legally Russia had the right to do this (and I'm not at all saying they do, since I've heard international law experts say they don't believe it's legal, but we're not going to agree on it so whatever), it's still pretty much the worst way to do it. Pissing off a foreign nation like this is just idiotic. Not even having the decency to inform the host country is plain and simply rude and stupid. Had they informed us and gone through the proper channels to extradite whoever did it would've been effective enough and wouldn't have caused all this shit.
[QUOTE=mobrockers;42254051]Except they boarded from other boats, I have yet to read any proof this ship was actually involved.[/QUOTE] I meant attempting to board the oil rig, which two of their people did. [QUOTE=mobrockers;42254051]Look, even if they did have something to do with it, even if legally Russia had the right to do this (and I'm not at all saying they do, since I've heard international law experts say they don't believe it's legal, but we're not going to agree on it so whatever), it's still pretty much the worst way to do it. Pissing off a foreign nation like this is just idiotic. Not even having the decency to inform the host country is plain and simply rude and stupid. Had they informed us and gone through the proper channels to extradite whoever did it would've been effective enough and wouldn't have caused all this shit.[/QUOTE] My point was only that there is legal precedent for Russia's actions. I strongly disagree that extradition would be effective, considering the identities of the crew were not known. Russia is being typically over-aggressive and overbearing, but if they wanted to pursue the issue there really weren't that many choices. All I'm saying is that this is largely a political issue, not a legal one.
[QUOTE=Gordy H.;42247863]Good, fuck Greenpeace. I felt sympathy with them and even supported their tactics to an extent until they started protesting [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_rice]golden rice[/url] for no reason other than 'lol fuck GMO'.[/QUOTE] i take it golden rice is pretty near and dear to you
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42254003]Since when did artificial sweeteners do that? People are complaining about the flavour additive MSG but that's harmless as well. That's because it's impossible to "prove somebody wrong". The burden of proof lies on you to prove that GMOs are bad for your health.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/aspartame-health-risks_b_668692.html[/url] I made a statement that says GMOs are bad and you cant come up with anything to say otherwise good job. [editline]20th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Sgt Doom;42254031]We rate him dumb because the first source is a horrendously biased site belonging to some whacko organisation with no credibility other than a fancy logo, and the second is a conspiracy nut radio show. You should also consider sodomising yourself with a cactus if you're going to shift the burden of proof onto other people.[/QUOTE] Whenever someone comes up with a source saying that GMOs are bad its instantly shot down because the site isnt 'credible'. And I'm putting the burden on others because i havent seen one shred of evidence that GMOs are actually safe. Show me something. Cmon I know you can come up with some bullshit article its not that hard.
[QUOTE=crazyjames;42255029]I made a statement that says GMOs are bad and you cant come up with anything to say otherwise good job.[/QUOTE] The burden of proof is on you to prove they are bad. [quote]Potential health risks have been examined and dismissed by numerous scientific research projects. With the exception of the risk to those with phenylketonuria, aspartame is considered to be a safe food additive by governments, worldwide, and major health and food safety organizations.[2][10][11][12][13] FDA officials describe aspartame as "one of the most thoroughly tested and studied food additives the agency has ever approved" and its safety as "clear cut".[4] The weight of existing scientific evidence indicates that aspartame is safe as a non-nutritive sweetener.[10][/quote]
[QUOTE=crazyjames;42255029] I made a statement that says GMOs are bad and you cant come up with anything to say otherwise good job. [/QUOTE] You are more dangerous than any GMO ever. You gave me and everyone in this thread cancer. Now I made a statement, go and prove me wrong.
[QUOTE=crazyjames;42255029]Whenever someone comes up with a source saying that GMOs are bad its instantly shot down because the site isnt 'credible'. And I'm putting the burden on others because i havent seen one shred of evidence that GMOs are actually safe. Show me something. Cmon I know you can come up with some bullshit article its not that hard.[/QUOTE] The default is that GMO food is neither beneficial nor harmful to health. You have to prove that it /is/ harmful.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42255050]The burden of proof is on you to prove they are bad.[/QUOTE] Every industry test labels aspartame as 'safe' while third party test indicate it as being a carcinogenic neurotoxin. The burden of proof is on you. It goes both ways proud supporter of Zionists.
[QUOTE]This comes a day after four Greenpeace members tried to board a Russian oil platform to prevent it from drilling.[/QUOTE] They were just fucking asking for it. Imagine what actual terrorists could do with an oil rig.
[QUOTE=crazyjames;42255093]Every industry test labels aspartame as 'safe' while third party test indicate it as being a carcinogenic neurotoxin. The burden of proof is on you. It goes both ways proud supporter of Zionists.[/QUOTE] Which third parties? These? [url]http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/topics/topic/aspartame.htm[/url] [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17828671[/url] Also I'm not too sure what zionism has to do with it, I just like to poke fun at anti-Semites.
[QUOTE=crazyjames;42253957]Everyone who has rated you dumb has no idea what they are ingesting and dont really care because half of the artificial and super sweeteners have damaged their brains to the point of no return. Ie: High fructose corn syrup, Aspartame, Splenda. Its so naive to believe that Splicing genes has no ill effects. Im still waiting to see some actually studies that say GMOs are in fact 'good for you'. Or actually have a higher yield to organic crops. Prove me wrong. I bet you cant do it.[/QUOTE] Burden of proof. Look into it. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWJTUAezxAI[/media]
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42255111]Which third parties? These? [url]http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/topics/topic/aspartame.htm[/url] [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17828671[/url][/QUOTE] Those third parties are paid for by the corporations and are not reliable. We need fourth party studies, followed by fifth party studies!
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42255695]Those third parties are paid for by the corporations and are not reliable. We need fourth party studies, followed by fifth party studies![/QUOTE]We need people who know nothing about the subject field, because the intelligentsia is rifle with Judaism and corporatism!
So the ship has been illegally boarded, but after the activists tried to board an oil rig and then made a dash for international waters. Legal issues aside they were fucking with Russian oil interests and there can't be any they thought this was going to end well
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