• Woman Charged With Assaulting Boyfriend Over Monopoly Game
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[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;46587071]If the man slaps the woman its DUH EVUL PATRIARCHY obviously. Also, I wouldn't call something that doesn't actually injure another person violence. It's like saying getting hit with a piece of foam is violence, or throwing a snowball is violence.[/QUOTE] Not accounting for emotional injuries? I can scream and yell at my SO and pretend it's not violence based on your definition, all because it didn't physically injure them. Domestic abuse isn't just physical. The fact of the matter is, laughing it off as "just a slap" when its a man on the receiving end is just supporting the idea that men aren't able to be abused any more than women are. Maybe this is just an argument gone wrong but none of us know the circumstances so it's really silly to assume things.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;46586189]What century are you in? Its $2 million now and you use credit cards now.[/QUOTE] Wow... That is a really lame joke. You could probably throw in an inflation line to flesh it out a bit more though.
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;46587071]If the man slaps the woman its DUH EVUL PATRIARCHY obviously. Also, I wouldn't call something that doesn't actually injure another person violence. It's like saying getting hit with a piece of foam is violence, or throwing a snowball is violence.[/QUOTE] a slap in the face can fucking hurt man not 2000 dollars hurt but still
Aww, she looks really upset, slapping aside i hope she's ok.
How did the cops get called for a slap?
[QUOTE=Richoxen;46588898]How did the cops get called for a slap?[/QUOTE] I guess they decided to call the cops rather than letting it turn to anything worse?
Wow, not saying what she did was right but I would not have my partner arrested for a slap.
[QUOTE=meek;46588940]Wow, not saying what she did was right but I would not have my partner arrested for a slap.[/QUOTE] What's there not to say that this was the drop spilled the glass? She might have a history of being abusive.
Man you fucking people are ridiculous. It's a fucking slap, at most it's going to leave the cheek reddened for a little bit. It's not worth fucking 2000 and a trial. This isn't domestic violence it's fucking bullshit. I would be saying the same thing if it was a man slapping a girl for this. I mean fucking hell you can see how fucking hard she was crying over this from the red around her eyes.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;46589699]Man you fucking people are ridiculous. It's a fucking slap, at most it's going to leave the cheek reddened for a little bit. It's not worth fucking 2000 and a trial. This isn't domestic violence it's fucking bullshit. I would be saying the same thing if it was a man slapping a girl for this. I mean fucking hell you can see how fucking hard she was crying over this from the red around her eyes.[/QUOTE] Okay? And what facts do you know about this occurrence that everyone else doesn't that leads you to conclude that you're absolutely right about everything?
I feel like instances of women slapping men are on average less severe than instances of men slapping women. While the potential for serious abuse is always there, I am always suspicious of stories of women going to jail. The boyfriend could just be a muh-equality /r/mensrights regular.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;46589699]Man you fucking people are ridiculous. It's a fucking slap, at most it's going to leave the cheek reddened for a little bit. It's not worth fucking 2000 and a trial. This isn't domestic violence it's fucking bullshit. I would be saying the same thing if it was a man slapping a girl for this. I mean fucking hell you can see how fucking hard she was crying over this from the red around her eyes.[/QUOTE] In a lot of places it's mandatory to arrest the perpetrator in a domestic violence situation. No idea if that's what happened here though.
I hope they never go through the trial of Dokapon Kingdom
[QUOTE=meek;46588940]Wow, not saying what she did was right but I would not have my partner arrested for a slap.[/QUOTE]Me either, though that bitch would be gone because I'm in it for the long haul. I don't want the potential mother of my children to have such a short fuse that she'll slap [i]me[/i] for something, because what's stopping her from pounding the shit out of my kids? [QUOTE=EskillV2;46589460]What's there not to say that this was the drop spilled the glass? She might have a history of being abusive.[/QUOTE]This must be a Norwegian phrase, because I have never heard that and really my mental image of it doesn't make sense. Is it that full that the surface tension on the top breaks and it spills a little on the side or...? I don't get it. :( Or does the physics in Norway follow Oblivion rules and shit violently flies all over when slightly disturbed? But yeah, she could have a history of being a total bitch and being abusive and he's like "that's it lady" and called the cops. [QUOTE=Zeke129;46590171]In a lot of places it's mandatory to arrest the perpetrator in a domestic violence situation. No idea if that's what happened here though.[/QUOTE] Finally there's this, which could have easily been the case and the boyfriend may have never intended for this to go this far.
It is 100% easier to let the cops deal with it than risking it escalating into something worse. Maybe he called the cops because he knew it could get worse and he didn't want to hurt her or for her to hurt him. This is exactly what the police are for, protecting the people.
[QUOTE=xxncxx;46589738]Okay? And what facts do you know about this occurrence that everyone else doesn't that leads you to conclude that you're absolutely right about everything?[/QUOTE] The fuck is your point here? I'm simply trying to say people are overreacting to the fact that a person slapped another person. You don't need 2K and a Trial for something so trivial.
[QUOTE=EskillV2;46589460]What's there not to say that this was the drop spilled the glass? She might have a history of being abusive.[/QUOTE] And by the same token, what is there to say that this [b]is[/b] the drop that spilled the glass? Honestly, I find arguments like this completely inane, because it could go in either direction. We have no information to make a judgment call one way or the other.
You guys seem to think the boyfriend called the cops, but the article doesn't imply that. Seems more likely that the neighbors called: [quote=article]Hooksett police say they were called to a home on Post Road late Sunday night for [B]a report of a domestic disturbance[/B].[/quote] She told the cops that she slapped her boyfriend, and like Zeke129 mentioned, it's possible that a domestic violence charge was mandatory in this case, and so everyone found themselves in a shitty position. Who is to say the boyfriend or his girlfriend ever wanted any of this?
[QUOTE=Furioso;46590799]You guys seem to think the boyfriend called the cops, but the article doesn't imply that. Seems more likely that the neighbors called: She told the cops that she slapped her boyfriend, and like Zeke129 mentioned, it's possible that a domestic violence charge was mandatory in this case, and so everyone found themselves in a shitty position. Who is to say the boyfriend or his girlfriend ever wanted any of this?[/QUOTE] Either way, it is best the police handled it. Maybe they have a history of it and the neighbours called because of that? It doesn't really matter how severe this case is, all that matters is that it happened and the police did their job correctly. "Oh it's just a slap" doesn't mean anything if the next step could have been her grabbing a kitchen knife and trying to stab the poor guy. Domestic disturbances escalate fucking fast, trust me, I lived that life growing up. Had a gun held to my head and everything, many times, over literally fucking nothing. Wasn't even my fault, half the time I wasn't even involved in the slightest, I just happened to accidentally walk into a room and the argument ended up migrating into the same room. Anecdote aside though, this is a perfectly rational and fine response to the event. She [B]assaulted[/B] the guy over a [I]boardgame[/I]. Not directing the argument here at you Furioso, but at the people who are writing it off as nothing. I mean, the argument half of you are presenting is basically the same thing as if you got mugged and the cops just said, "lol, so what, it was just a mugging, call us when shit gets serious like a murder or a mass shooting. Maybe if you were a real man, you wouldn't have let some girl mug you." The entire function of a police force is to keep the peace, shocker right? Why would these so called officers of the peace do exactly what their name suggests? Weird. Even weirder that a domestic disturbance isn't considered a particularly peaceful event. [editline]27th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=TornadoAP;46590693]The fuck is your point here? I'm simply trying to say people are overreacting to the fact that a person slapped another person. You don't need 2K and a Trial for something so trivial.[/QUOTE] :downs:
[QUOTE=draugur;46590843]Either way, it is best the police handled it. Maybe they have a history of it and the neighbours called because of that? It doesn't really matter how severe this case is, all that matters is that it happened and the police did their job correctly. "Oh it's just a slap" doesn't mean anything if the next step could have been her grabbing a kitchen knife and trying to stab the poor guy. Domestic disturbances escalate fucking fast, trust me, I lived that life growing up. Had a gun held to my head and everything, many times, over literally fucking nothing. Wasn't even my fault, half the time I wasn't even involved in the slightest, I just happened to accidentally walk into a room and the argument ended up migrating into the same room. Anecdote aside though, this is a perfectly rational and fine response to the event. She [B]assaulted[/B] the guy over a [I]boardgame[/I].[/QUOTE] Yeah but the reaction to this was fucking insane. Seriously 2000 and a wasting police's time, time that could be spent on actual crimes, is no small deal and is fucking bullshit for something so small. At most the police should have just given them a warning.
Just to expand on my previous post, the reason that's the law in a lot of cases is because it happens far too often that someone will refuse to press charges or even admit to what happened because they're afraid. That said, I looked it up. The most recent information I could find was from 2007 (or is that 2011? who knows the date format) but it looks like New Hampshire isn't a mandatory arrest state. It's up to the discretion of the officer, although the law [url=http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/migrated/domviol/docs/Domestic_Violence_Arrest_Policies_by_State_11_07.authcheckdam.pdf]"is ambiguous in directing that an officer “should” arrest the primary aggressor in the context of a discretionary arrest directive for domestic violence generally"[/url]
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;46590881]Yeah but the reaction to this was fucking insane. Seriously 2000 and a wasting police's time, time that could be spent on actual crimes, is no small deal and is fucking bullshit for something so small. At most the police should have just given them a warning.[/QUOTE] Domestic abuse and shit isn't a "small deal." Just because this specific incident was minor in terms of what happened, IE just a slap, it was also incredibly over the top for the circumstances, IE a board game. This is an actual crime, it is technically domestic abuse and assault, both are crimes. Just because it was "just a slap" doesn't mean that a few minutes from then it wouldn't have been a full blown murder. This woman became [I]violent over a board game[/I]. She is clearly mentally unstable and by that same token, arresting her removed the key element of an escalation from the situation, thus, keeping the peace. Beyond this initial event, there is a whole host of previous things that may have gone into this. Maybe she abused him before? This very well could be a straw breaking a camel's back. The second you add any violent behavior into a domestic disturbance, you have a huge fucking time bomb ticking in your hands. It isn't something that a simple, "lol we're the police, don't do this again, bye now." No, shit doesn't just blow over like that because the police arrived. One slap could be behind a thousand savage beatings in queue.
[QUOTE=draugur;46590941]Domestic abuse and shit isn't a "small deal." Just because this specific incident was minor in terms of what happened, IE just a slap, it was also incredibly over the top for the circumstances, IE a board game. This is an actual crime, it is technically domestic abuse and assault, both are crimes. Just because it was "just a slap" doesn't mean that a few minutes from then it wouldn't have been a full blown murder. This woman became [I]violent over a board game[/I]. She is clearly mentally unstable and by that same token, arresting her removed the key element of an escalation from the situation, thus, keeping the peace. Beyond this initial event, there is a whole host of previous things that may have gone into this. Maybe she abused him before? This very well could be a straw breaking a camel's back.[/QUOTE] Wow, the fucking stupidity from this statement. People become mad all the fucking time over trivial things, it's not an abnormal human reaction. People throw controllers and keyboards over loosing a video game, that doesn't make them mentally ill. Did you ever think about perhaps that there were more stressful things going on to the woman that caused her to go on the tipping point when what was meant to be a relaxing game session turned out to be much worse? Not to mention I really wouldn't count a fucking slap as domestic abuse. Slaps unless they are hit extremely hard typically don't actually hurt people for very long, maybe a stinging sensation. Sure it could have escalated but it fucking didn't because when the police got there probably 10 minutes after the neighbors called all that happened was a slap. Perhaps she could have abused him before, but where's your fucking proof. It's much more logical to assume that this was a single case because
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;46590970]Wow, the fucking stupidity from this statement. People become mad all the fucking time over trivial things, it's not an abnormal human reaction. People throw controllers and keyboards over loosing a video game, that doesn't make them mentally ill.[/QUOTE] Nothing wrong with anger, fundamentally, but normal people can control their anger and not get physical with others. Yes, people throw things, but there's a problem if they're throwing controllers and keyboards [I]at other people[/I]. [QUOTE=TornadoAP;46590970]Did you ever think about perhaps that there were more stressful things going on to the woman that caused her to go on the tipping point when what was meant to be a relaxing game session turned out to be much worse?[/QUOTE] Doesn't matter. It doesn't excuse hitting a person. [QUOTE=TornadoAP;46590970]Not to mention I really wouldn't count a fucking slap as domestic abuse.[/QUOTE] Well, that's why you aren't an enforcer of justice. [QUOTE=TornadoAP;46590970]It's much more logical to assume that this was a single case because[/QUOTE] Let me make this clear:
[QUOTE=Furioso;46591040]Nothing wrong with anger, fundamentally, but normal people can control their anger and not get physical with others. Yes, people throw things, but there's a problem if they're throwing controllers and keyboards [I]at other people[/I].[/quote] Yes I happen to agree, but he's acting like she's going to go off and kill 30 people because she had an argument. [quote]Doesn't matter. It doesn't excuse hitting a person.[/quote] No it doesn't. I never said you should get off free did I? [quote]Well, that's why you aren't an enforcer of justice.[/quote] It's a slap for christ's sake, at most it'll kill a couple of muscle cells under the skin. Woop de fucking do. If someone actually starts hitting or punching then I'd be worried, but they didn't. As far as it sounds it ended there [quote]Let me make this clear:[/QUOTE] Sorry forgot to expand on this. It's much more logical to assume it's a single case because NORMAL PEOPLE DON'T FUCKING DO THIS. Innocent until proven guilty. [editline]28th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=ilikecorn;46591045]What? It doesn't matter how much it hurts. YOU DON'T FUCKING HIT PEOPLE. Especially not for petty bullshit like this. Boo fucking hoo, you struck someone and now you're facing the consequences of your actions, cry some more.[/QUOTE] Yes you shouldn't hit people. But it doesn't justify a woman being in jail with a fine of 2k and wasting time that could actually be spent for something meaningful.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46591140]Meaningful? I'm pretty sure assault is meaningful. Let's put it this way, is it fine if I decided to slap my wife one day cause she pissed me off, then when I got arrested would it be fine for me to sit and bitch about the fine and the jail time? Fuck no it's not, that's the punishment for your actions.[/QUOTE] What the fuck are you going on about? I'm not sitting here and whining about MY fine and MY jail time. I'm sitting here discussing the fact that it's extremely stupid to waste resources on something so insignificant. And this is hardly what I'd classify as assault.
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;46586025]If they've got into all of this just because of a harmless slap I can't imagine what would have happened if they've played Mario Party[/QUOTE] It starts like this. [thumb]http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/katietiedrich/comic284.png[/thumb]
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46591209]So is it cool for me to hit my wife because she pissed me off, and expect to not get arrested because "it's a waste of resources"?[/QUOTE] No it is not cool for you to SLAP your wife, and if you do you should be arrested, what I'm saying is that 2k and a fucking trial over this shit is too much.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46591501]So.. You don't know what you're talking about? Got it. Because if you're getting arrested you're probably going to trial and you're probably getting fined. So you're not making any sense here.[/QUOTE] Do I have to spell it out for you? You should definitely be arrested for fucking hitting someone once, but you shouldn't be charged 2K and have a trial that wastes time dedicated to you. I am literally just saying that the punishment does not fit the crime. I mean come on in the article it even states he wasn't hurt. If I don't know what I'm talking about, then you sure as hell don't have a clue.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;46591543]Do I have to spell it out for you? You should definitely be arrested for fucking hitting someone once, but you shouldn't be charged 2K and have a trial that wastes time dedicated to you. I am literally just saying that the punishment does not fit the crime. I mean come on in the article it even states he wasn't hurt. If I don't know what I'm talking about, then you sure as hell don't have a clue.[/QUOTE]You clearly have never been arrested before and with a wave of my avatar's unicorn dick... Yes... Yes, it's coming in clearly, you will be unprepared for any arrest, you will be confused and upset by the events that follow. Let me try to explain why you are unbelievably naive: when the police arrest somebody it is because that person has been accused of a crime. They will say, "TornadoAP, you are under arrest for masturbating in public, put your hands behind your back." Then they will say, "You have the right to remain silent, anything you say or do can and will be used against you in a court of law." This is the beginning of something called the [i]Miranda warning,[/i] which is a list of rights you have as you are being detained. Try as you might, you cannot talk out of being arrested for your masturbatory offense, the police officers will be unsympathetic to your plight and are now doing their jobs so they don't lose their jobs. "Woah woah woah," says the guy who called the cops, he just wanted you to stop doing creepy things behind the bushes, not get you arrested. You go to jail anyway. Bail is set. There's a trial scheduled to determine if you truly are the criminal mastermind who's been masturbating in parks across the city, you think, "this is unfair, I didn't commit a crime and this is unjust punishment!" Well, the law is the law, TornadoAP, and you will have your day in court to show them how wrong they are! You weren't masturbating even a little bit! Until then either deal with your jail time or post bail, you can sue the city and sue the county [i]after[/i] you win your legal victory.
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