Woman Charged With Assaulting Boyfriend Over Monopoly Game
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[QUOTE=TornadoAP;46591543]You should definitely be arrested for fucking hitting someone once, but you shouldn't be charged 2K and have a trial that wastes time dedicated to you.
I am literally just saying that the punishment does not fit the crime. I mean come on in the article it even states he wasn't hurt.
If I don't know what I'm talking about, then you sure as hell don't have a clue.[/QUOTE]
Last time I checked .. [b]bail is not a punishment[/b] but a way of making sure a person shows up for court.
Can also be affected by other stuff that she might have don in the past .. like; criminal history or numerous 'failure to appear' charges on a record.
You don't judge a book by its cover .. besides shes 21 .. not 12.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;46586649]I still don't get how police were called over this.
I mean its just a slap, plus, I thought the bill is a little high.[/QUOTE]
If the genders were reversed a lot more people would be flipping shit, saying that the guy deserved it.
What a great boyfriend, if you can even call him a male, man up and walk it off for fucks sake.
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;46586616]*tips fedora
Also, police called over a fucking slap? Hah.[/QUOTE]
You don't slap a man on his face, that's case for pistols at dawn.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;46590970]Wow, the fucking stupidity from this statement. People become mad all the fucking time over trivial things, it's not an abnormal human reaction. People throw controllers and keyboards over loosing a video game, that doesn't make them mentally ill. Did you ever think about perhaps that there were more stressful things going on to the woman that caused her to go on the tipping point when what was meant to be a relaxing game session turned out to be much worse?
Not to mention I really wouldn't count a fucking slap as domestic abuse. Slaps unless they are hit extremely hard typically don't actually hurt people for very long, maybe a stinging sensation. Sure it could have escalated but it fucking didn't because when the police got there probably 10 minutes after the neighbors called all that happened was a slap.
Perhaps she could have abused him before, but where's your fucking proof.[B] It's much more logical to assume that this was a single case[/B] because[/QUOTE]
No, no its not "more logical to assume", its never logical to assume. Assuming means you're coming to a conclusion without proof.
You should really calm down and stop being such a child. Like I asked earlier, what facts do you know about this case that lead you to believe this is an isolated incident and not an occurrence of domestic abuse in a relationship where there could have been a history of it. It could be many things but why is it so hard for you to believe that men can be abused too?
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;46586037]Could have been worse, they could have been playin Mario Party in which case he'd probably be dead.[/QUOTE]
She couldn't open palm slap him if it was Mario Party because her hand would be ruined from the tug of war mini-game.
Depending on the details, I think it's a bit ridiculous to jail someone for domestic violence for a slap.
[QUOTE=Korova;46593282]Depending on the details, I think it's a bit ridiculous to jail someone for domestic violence for a slap.[/QUOTE]
A "slap" can mean many things. It's entirely possible that it was done with enough power to actually hurt the person (this would be even more so if it were a man hitting a woman), physically or emotionally, in which case police intervention may be necessary.
But I feel that there's so much of a focus on equality these days that people are liable to not think "is this offense against me severe enough to warrant jail time?" and just default to "well if [I]I[/I] hit [I]her[/I] I'd be in jail; calling the police now #equality"
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;46593643]A "slap" can mean many things. It's entirely possible that it was done with enough power to actually hurt the person (this would be even more so if it were a man hitting a woman), physically or emotionally, in which case police intervention may be necessary.[/QUOTE]
It says in the article that the Boyfriend was not hurt.
[editline]28th November 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=xxncxx;46592646]No, no its not "more logical to assume", its never logical to assume. Assuming means you're coming to a conclusion without proof.
You should really calm down and stop being such a child. Like I asked earlier, what facts do you know about this case that lead you to believe this is an isolated incident and not an occurrence of domestic abuse in a relationship where there could have been a history of it. It could be many things but why is it so hard for you to believe that men can be abused too?[/QUOTE]
Did you even read my later post explaining why? I doubt it, you're too caught up in your own self righteousness equality bullshit to look past it and see that this is unreasonable.
[editline]28th November 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;46591637]You clearly have never been arrested before and with a wave of my avatar's unicorn dick... Yes... Yes, it's coming in clearly, you will be unprepared for any arrest, you will be confused and upset by the events that follow.
Let me try to explain why you are unbelievably naive: when the police arrest somebody it is because that person has been accused of a crime. They will say, "TornadoAP, you are under arrest for masturbating in public, put your hands behind your back." Then they will say, "You have the right to remain silent, anything you say or do can and will be used against you in a court of law." This is the beginning of something called the [i]Miranda warning,[/i] which is a list of rights you have as you are being detained. Try as you might, you cannot talk out of being arrested for your masturbatory offense, the police officers will be unsympathetic to your plight and are now doing their jobs so they don't lose their jobs. "Woah woah woah," says the guy who called the cops, he just wanted you to stop doing creepy things behind the bushes, not get you arrested.
You go to jail anyway. Bail is set. There's a trial scheduled to determine if you truly are the criminal mastermind who's been masturbating in parks across the city, you think, "this is unfair, I didn't commit a crime and this is unjust punishment!" Well, the law is the law, TornadoAP, and you will have your day in court to show them how wrong they are! You weren't masturbating even a little bit! Until then either deal with your jail time or post bail, you can sue the city and sue the county [i]after[/i] you win your legal victory.[/QUOTE]
Okay... I didn't need that but whatever, thanks?
[editline]28th November 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Nak;46591673]Last time I checked .. [b]bail is not a punishment[/b] but a way of making sure a person shows up for court.
Can also be affected by other stuff that she might have don in the past .. like; criminal history or numerous 'failure to appear' charges on a record.
You don't judge a book by its cover .. besides shes 21 .. not 12.[/QUOTE]
Oh shit, well looks like I got that wrong, still doesn't change the fact that valuable time is being wasted on this.
[editline]28th November 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46591677]How does the punishment not fit the crime? Had it not fit the crime it wouldn't have been applied in the first place..[/QUOTE]
Look I'm just saying. This is just wasting the time of everyone involved.
Okay tl;dr for this whole discussion:. We don't have enough details.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;46593673]
[B]Okay tl;dr for this whole discussion:. We don't have enough details.[/B][/QUOTE]
Then why are you vehemently arguing as if you know details we don't?
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;46590970]Wow, the fucking stupidity from this statement. People become mad all the fucking time over trivial things, it's not an abnormal human reaction.[/QUOTE]
"it's not an abnormal human reaction to assault your partner over a board game"
[QUOTE=Rex McCoolguy;46595570]"it's not an abnormal human reaction to assault your partner over a board game"[/QUOTE]
you can say it'd be good if it weren't, but really it can be a normal human reaction
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;46595618]you can say it'd be good if it weren't, but really it can be a normal human reaction[/QUOTE]
Doesn't mean it should.
[QUOTE=xxncxx;46594866]Then why are you vehemently arguing as if you know details we don't?[/QUOTE]
Except that I'm not? I simply read the article which most people don't seem to do?
I'm going off the assumption that by slap it's a just a slap that if hit hard enough may cause slight redness to the cheek.
[editline]28th November 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Rex McCoolguy;46595570]"it's not an abnormal human reaction to assault your partner over a board game"[/QUOTE]
Then again what do you classify as assault? I don't really call a slight slap an assault.
You don't even know basic law, should you really be telling people they haven't read the article?
Wow, calling the police on your girlfriend for a slap, talk about a healthy relationship.
[QUOTE=Crimor;46595769]You don't even know basic law, should you really be telling people they haven't read the article?[/QUOTE]
First of all where's your evidence I don't know basic law.
Second of all: What? Those two have absolutely no correlation what so ever. You don't need to know basic law to read a fucking article.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;46595905][B]First of all where's your evidence I don't know basic law.
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Second of all: What? Those two have absolutely no correlation what so ever. You don't need to know basic law to read a fucking article.[/QUOTE]
You literally don't know what bail is, for one. I think that's enough to qualify.
[QUOTE=Crimor;46596298]You literally don't know what bail is, for one. I think that's enough to qualify.[/QUOTE]
Dude I know what fucking bail is for, it's an amount set for you to get out of jail until the trial. I simply got mistaken that the bail was actually a fine given. I mean fucking hell, I literally said that I was mistaken about this a couple posts back, read the long one with the TLDR
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;46595728]Except that I'm not? I simply read the article which most people don't seem to do?
[B]I'm going off the assumption[/B] that by slap it's a just a slap that if hit hard enough may cause slight redness to the cheek.
[editline]28th November 2014[/editline]
Then again what do you classify as assault? I don't really call a slight slap an assault.[/QUOTE]
Still assuming. Lemme know when you learn how to logically reason.
"How can she slap?"
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;46595905]where's your evidence I don't know basic law.
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[QUOTE=TornadoAP;46595728]
Then again what do you classify as assault? I don't really call a slight slap an assault.[/QUOTE]
Let me just pull out my old textbook from my crmj class last year, that way you can't bitch about me quoting wikipedia or anything.
"An unlawful attack by one person upon another. Historically assault meant only the attempt to inflict injury on another person; a completed act consituted the separate offense of battery. Under modern statistical usage, however, attempted and completed acts are grouped together under the generic term assault." - Criminal Justice Today, 12th ed. 2012
This is further classified as simple assault or aggravated assault. Simple assault is usually pushing and shoving and includes fist fights while aggravated assault involves a weapon.
So yes, slapping someone is assault, as the act of slapping someone is [I]attempting to inflict injury on another person.[/I] You don't know basic law. If you want to get really complex with this and not play the grouping game with modern statistical usage, she committed both assault and battery since she completed the action. So, feel free to argue against that, but you'll be wrong 100% of the time.
Yeah it wasn't very severe, but that doesn't mean it wasn't assault or battery. She still inflicted harm on another person.
[QUOTE=draugur;46597654]Let me just pull out my old textbook from my crmj class last year, that way you can't bitch about me quoting wikipedia or anything.
"An unlawful attack by one person upon another. Historically assault meant only the attempt to inflict injury on another person; a completed act consituted the separate offense of battery. Under modern statistical usage, however, attempted and completed acts are grouped together under the generic term assault." - Criminal Justice Today, 12th ed. 2012
This is further classified as simple assault or aggravated assault. Simple assault is usually pushing and shoving and includes fist fights while aggravated assault involves a weapon.
So yes, slapping someone is assault, as the act of slapping someone is [I]attempting to inflict injury on another person.[/I] You don't know basic law. If you want to get really complex with this and not play the grouping game with modern statistical usage, she committed both assault and battery since she completed the action. So, feel free to argue against that, but you'll be wrong 100% of the time.
Yeah it wasn't very severe, but that doesn't mean it wasn't assault or battery. She still inflicted harm on another person.[/QUOTE]
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Sorry I really should have clarified.
I personally don't call a slight slap an assault, I don't give a shit about the legal definition, and maybe I even think the legal definition should be changed. I was asking whether you personally classify a slight slap as an assault.
I love how people keep strawmaning me saying I don't understand basic law and then use it as an ad hominem to attack me.
[editline]29th November 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=xxncxx;46596652]Still assuming. Lemme know when you learn how to logically reason.[/QUOTE]
Once again you are pulling what someone above you did, correlating things that don't correlate. The only thing that correlates between logical reasoning and assumptions is that one uses the other one to reason about another things. Assumptions are a huge part of logical reasoning and if you discount them then your left with not enough to go on.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;46598096]...
Sorry I really should have clarified.
I personally don't call a slight slap an assault, I don't give a shit about the legal definition, and maybe I even think the legal definition should be changed. I was asking whether you personally classify a slight slap as an assault.
I love how people keep strawmaning me saying I don't understand basic law and then use it as an ad hominem to attack me.
[editline]29th November 2014[/editline]
Once again you are pulling what someone above you did, correlating things that don't correlate. The only thing that correlates between logical reasoning and assumptions is that one uses the other one to reason about another things. [B]Assumptions are a huge part of logical reasoning and if you discount them then your left with not enough to go on.[/B][/QUOTE]
This is contradictory because assumptions by definition are made without proof. And you have yet to provide any proof. So we're left with not enough to go on which is what it has been the entire time and you have angrily been arguing as if there IS something to go on.
Hint: [sp]There isn't.[/sp]
And again you're assuming that it was a light slap. If I put my back into it I could probably floor someone with a slap. The slap is just the delivery method of the kinetic force, you can still do it with the same power as a punch, hell, probably more depending on how it's delivered.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;46593673]Oh shit, well looks like I got that wrong, still doesn't change the fact that valuable time is being wasted on this.[/QUOTE]
Let me fill you in on the new high-tech solution from 1970.
The police are now coordinating and prioritize .. [b]yes prioritize[/b] incoming calls.
You see .. they prioritize life-threatening situations as top priority, kids from below 12 as high priority and small fights/stuff are usually responded by units who's available[i](Not doing anything currently)[/i].
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46586381]Looks like she got a fair share of whooping too[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lucien1337;46586494]I think she just looks like that[/QUOTE]
She had obviously been crying.
[editline]29th November 2014[/editline]
Late reply also but fuck it.
Her boyfriend already planned his revenge:
Spread all of the monopoly houses on her side of the bed. Hurts like stepping on Legos
[editline]29th November 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;46595618]you can say it'd be good if it weren't, but really it can be a normal human reaction[/QUOTE]
So punching your girlfriend because she annoys the hell out of you is also just a normal human reaction?
[QUOTE=Crimor;46599796]And again you're assuming that it was a light slap. If I put my back into it I could probably floor someone with a slap. The slap is just the delivery method of the kinetic force, you can still do it with the same power as a punch, hell, probably more depending on how it's delivered.[/QUOTE]
And in that case then she should definitely be arrested for that.
[editline]29th November 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=xxncxx;46599618]This is contradictory because assumptions by definition are made without proof. And you have yet to provide any proof. So we're left with not enough to go on which is what it has been the entire time and you have angrily been arguing as if there IS something to go on.
Hint: [sp]There isn't.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Hint: I've already come to this conclusion. Read my fucking posts because obviously you didn't, specifically the TLDR one. I'm still going to argue what I can though and as if my assumptions were correct.
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