Protest sparks Texas lawmaker threats of gun violence - Polidicks

Immigration is a complex issue in the US, and especially in Texas, and the lives of immigrants both legal and illegal are unnecessarily difficult. However, admitting you're illegal is probably not the best idea because regardless of the ethical/moral side of it, you're still breaking the law and while it was an incredibly dick move to call ICE in response (like the kind of guy who calls the police on his elderly neighbor he sees smoking pot in his own home) threatening the guy with violence and even death is not going to help the case for your cause.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;52293289]I wasn't saying you were wrong, I just thought it was an interesting characterization, considering the people charged with deporting these criminals don't bother with criminal court. Technically speaking though [B]it's not a crime to be in the United States illegally[/B], but entering in an illegal manner (or entering after already being deported) could be a crime.[/QUOTE] :what:

[QUOTE=Icy Fire;52293413]:what:[/QUOTE] [URL="https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/567/11-182/opinion3.html"]Arizona v United States (2012)[/URL] [QUOTE] As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain present in the United States. See INS v. Lopez-Mendoza, 468 U. S. 1032, 1038 (1984) [/QUOTE] [editline]30th May 2017[/editline] A straight forward example is that there is no criminal charge for overstaying your visa. Neither a felony nor misdeameanor. But you can be deported.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;52293445]A straight forward example is that there is no criminal charge for overstaying your visa. Neither a felony nor misdeameanor. But you can be deported.[/QUOTE] Okay yeah that's fair. I can understand why it's sort of a shitty move to call ICE on them, but, like... why would they be out protesting-- let alone waving their signs --if they risk being deported? I KNOW why they'd protest, I'm just saying, really need to pick their battles.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;52293289]I wasn't saying you were wrong, I just thought it was an interesting characterization, considering the people charged with deporting these criminals don't bother with criminal court. Technically speaking though it's not a crime to be in the United States illegally, but entering in an illegal manner (or entering after already being deported) could be a crime.[/QUOTE] Yea, in the same way it's illegal to smuggle firearms into the US, but owning one of those firearms is perfectly fine as long as they comply with current laws. It's a dumb technicality. [editline]31st May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Icy Fire;52293791]Okay yeah that's fair. I can understand why it's sort of a shitty move to call ICE on them, but, like... why would they be out protesting-- let alone waving their signs --if they risk being deported? I KNOW why they'd protest, I'm just saying, really need to pick their battles.[/QUOTE] Probably because they can very easily get back into the US.