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let's import hordes of a low IQ high birthrate demographic nothing bad will come of it at all, right?
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;41139108]let's import hordes of a low IQ high birthrate demographic nothing bad will come of it at all, right?[/QUOTE] I fear that the damage will be permanent.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;41139108]let's import hordes of a low IQ high birthrate demographic nothing bad will come of it at all, right?[/QUOTE] [quote]low IQ[/quote] Just because you're uneducated doesnt make you stupid
[QUOTE=prooboo;41139245]Just because you're uneducated doesnt make you stupid[/QUOTE] Of course not, I never claimed that. It's just a bare fact that hispanics, in the aggregate, have lower IQs than whites and asians and ashkenazi jews.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;41139265]Of course not, I never claimed that. It's just a bare fact that hispanics, in the aggregate, have lower IQs than whites and asians and ashkenazi jews.[/QUOTE] Still jerkin' it to Bell Curve I see
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;41139289]Still jerkin' it to Bell Curve I see[/QUOTE] the Bell Curve doesn't really focus too much on Hispanics really. the vast bulk of the ethnicity chapters are about the B/W difference
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;41139301]the Bell Curve doesn't really focus too much on Hispanics really. the vast bulk of the ethnicity chapters are about the B/W difference[/QUOTE] huh so you say that people of higher economic status score higher on arbitrary tests that evaluate your knowledge in latin root words and mental math problems? and that a group of people with largely no access to any education score lower on these eurocentric and arbitrary tests that don't actually measure intelligence? edit: tell me more please
[QUOTE=prooboo;41139348]huh so you say that people of higher economic status score higher on arbitrary tests that evaluate your knowledge in latin root words and mental math problems? and that a group of people with largely no access to any education score lower on these eurocentric and arbitrary tests that don't actually measure intelligence? edit: tell me more please[/QUOTE] [t]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-U2kx9Gfisq4/Tf96N17xrNI/AAAAAAAADys/imDlh0yknqY/s1600/Straw-man3.jpg[/t] IQ tests aren't like that at all, please see my [url=http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1279238&p=41068111&highlight=#post41068111]previous post[/url] on the topic, or better yet consult the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient#Modern_tests]wikipedia page[/url] on IQ testing, specifically [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven%27s_Progressive_Matrices]Raven Matrices.[/url] Now, as for IQ being a measure of socioeconomic status rather than intelligence: yes it's true that education and parental SES contribute to IQ scoring, but the relationship is nonlinear. higher education can teach skills which both sharpen general intelligence, and also make candidates slightly more used to a testing environment, both of which can inflate scores. On the other hand, there is an attrition effect - less smart people tend to drop out of school, with this effect increasing the further up the education pole you get. For parental SES - a rich family environment will be very unlikely to have the kind of classic conditions which depress IQ scores - nutrient deficiencies, physical abuse, etc. On the other hand, it is well established that intelligence is heritable, and that it helps with moving up the social ladder. Therefore children of rich families tend to be [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regression_toward_the_mean]slightly[/url] smarter, all else held equal. Finally, here is one of my favorite pieces of data ([url=http://www.psychologicalscience.org/pdf/ps/frey.pdf]the SAT is generally held to be a good approximation to IQ[/url]): [img]http://educationrealist.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/satscoresbyraceincome91.jpg[/img] Notice how the poorest whites are on par with or outperform the richest blacks? Please, tell me more about how IQ tests are biased towards rich people.
[QUOTE=prooboo;41139245]Just because you're uneducated doesnt make you stupid[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, but they do have lower IQ's, it's likely the result of their poor environments one way or the other but the cause is irrelevant, and the damage it causes is extremely potent. [editline]22nd June 2013[/editline] I think it'd be more fair to say that life is biased towards rich people, not just IQ tests.
"WAHHH people are trying to escape an country ruined due to a war on drugs(Thanks america) and take jobs nobody wants and live off minimum wage, my america is ruined!!!"
But it Mexicans took the bad jobs then where would teenagers, black people, and convicts work? It would be the end of America as we know it.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41139655] I think it'd be more fair to say that life is biased towards rich people, not just IQ tests.[/QUOTE] White supremacists always point at IQ tests to show their superiority to blacks and hispanics but they don`t admit that Asians are superior to them. As far as IQ tests go I mean Asians are doing the best in general.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41143508]White supremacists always point at IQ tests to show their superiority to blacks and hispanics but they don`t admit that Asians are superior to them. As far as IQ tests go I mean Asians are doing the best in general.[/QUOTE] Well I have no idea what that has to do with that quote, but of course white supremacists are going to use factual information in a bigoted way, unfortunately it is difficult to deal with facts dealing with the collective intelligence of people by race because there are so many hateful and bigoted people who DO want to use it for bigotry, but this is not the time.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41143508]White supremacists always point at IQ tests to show their superiority to blacks and hispanics but they don`t admit that Asians are superior to them. As far as IQ tests go I mean Asians are doing the best in general.[/QUOTE] actually jews do even better than asians i always find that funny. white supremacists talk up race differences in intelligence and that jews control the world and they can't seem to put the two together
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