German Banker steals from rich and gives to poor - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Strider_07;18556221]All this accomplished was landing an old woman in heavy debt.[/QUOTE] what if she was in the right? what if she was in the wrong? what if the whole world was made of puddin'? [IMG]http://i49.tinypic.com/anem28.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=MuTAnT;18556189]That's actually a really interesting point but many families, especially lower class families run family-owned businesses. If these businesses were absorbed by the Government then many people would effectively be screwed.[/QUOTE] Of course this policy couldn't be enforced to the 't'(?), there would have to be various regulations; businesses would be more or less exempt from this because otherwise the government would quickly control the entire market. The other problem would be untimely death. If your dad get's in a car wreck when you're 6, obviously accommodations would be made.

[QUOTE=innerfire34;18556243]what if she was in the right? what if she was in the wrong? what if the whole world was made of puddin'? [IMG]http://i49.tinypic.com/anem28.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] I told you about 5 posts ago that it would've been fine if she selected people who actually fit the image of the people she wanted to save. She just skimmed around and plopped cash wherever there was none. Not all people with overdraft fees are poor; not all people with money in the bank are rich.

[QUOTE=Strider_07;18556272]I told you about 5 posts ago that it would've been fine if she selected people who actually fit the image of the people she wanted to save. She just skimmed around and plopped cash wherever there was none. Not all people with overdraft fees are poor; not all people with money in the bank are rich.[/QUOTE] I think he was saying that we are arguing pointlessly. Although I can't be sure, he might just be stoned. Also, I like that song he referenced. [editline]08:18PM[/editline] "Son, it's not disgusting, it's just reality, take a deep breath, and appreciate life"

She has to pay it back? That is awful. She probably had no prior criminal history and will now be suffering for the rest of her existence for a crime committed, not only without malice, but with good intentions. 1.5 million dollars is a great deal of money for an ex convict to make back. Stateside ex cons have massive difficult obtaining even mediocre low end jobs. I imagine Germany being somewhat better, but still not exactly in the "oh 1.5 million is nothing" range. Christ.

[QUOTE=GunFox;18556397]She has to pay it back? That is awful. She probably had no prior criminal history and will now be suffering for the rest of her existence for a crime committed, not only without malice, but with good intentions. 1.5 million dollars is a great deal of money for an ex convict to make back. Stateside ex cons have massive difficult obtaining even mediocre low end jobs. I imagine Germany being somewhat better, but still not exactly in the "oh 1.5 million is nothing" range. Christ.[/QUOTE] I can see your empathy, but I hope you don't think the law should be ignored because one is "nice".

[QUOTE=bobste;18556144]are you 13 by any chance[/QUOTE] Because i said it's not too hard to make money i must be 13? or because i called his grandad piss-poor? If you've got nothing inventive to say then why do you post?

[QUOTE=ryandaniels;18556440]I can see your empathy, but I hope you don't think the law should be ignored because one is "nice".[/QUOTE] I don't think a "misguided" old lady should be punished for making one who appears wealthy less so and one who appears poor less so.

[QUOTE=Strider_07;18555198]Charity shouldn't be forced.[/QUOTE] Bullshit. Force people who sit on their ass with billions to do something with it like spend it and contribute back to the economy and society, or take it away and spend it on public works .Or make them do something productive with it like start a company and employ people. If they refuse, take it away. Freedom? To be a useless piece of shit while others suffer?

[QUOTE=Xystus234;18556587]Bullshit. Force people who sit on their ass with billions to do something with it like spend it and contribute back to the economy and society, or take it away and spend it on public works .Or make them do something productive with it like start a company and employ people. If they refuse, take it away.[/QUOTE] then the american dream falls apart, why would you work if someday you can't command an empire?

[QUOTE=Xystus234;18556587]Bullshit. Force people who sit on their ass with billions to do something with it like spend it and contribute back to the economy and society, or take it away and spend it on public works .Or make them do something productive with it like start a company and employ people. If they refuse, take it away.l Freedom? To be a useless peace of shit while others suffer?[/QUOTE] Not all rich people do this, many of them give shitloads of money to a) the federal government, or b) charities. I can't think of a better example than Bill Gates, like you would have seen had you read everything I posted and didn't just assume you knew it all from one comment.

[QUOTE=Strider_07;18556635]Not all rich people do this, many of them give shitloads of money to a) the federal government, or b) charities. I can't think of a better example than Bill Gates, like you would have seen had you read everything I posted and didn't just assume you knew it all from one comment.[/QUOTE] I think you're pretty neat.

[QUOTE=innerfire34;18556599]then the american dream falls apart, why would you work if someday you can't command an empire?[/QUOTE] The point isn't that you can't be powerful and run a business empire, the point is you can't sit around and be a fat lazy ass or else you lose your money. Either that or outlaw large amounts of money for inheritances. If someone can sit around and have no problem ruining the economy by dicking around with billions in credit swaps, and it's legal... then we can't trust people to do the right thing, can we? [editline]10:49PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Strider_07;18556635]Not all rich people do this, many of them give shitloads of money to a) the federal government, or b) charities. I can't think of a better example than Bill Gates, like you would have seen had you read everything I posted and didn't just assume you knew it all from one comment.[/QUOTE] I know that, I'm just saying we need a whole new system to make sure that people who have billions of dollars use it wisely lest they fuck everything up for everybody else. Because like it or not, money is power, and with power comes responsibility. And you wouldn't trust some guy in a suit walking down the street with your pocketbook, would you?

[QUOTE=innerfire34;18556599]then the american dream falls apart, why would you work if someday you can't command an empire?[/QUOTE] we're not taking away half of their cash, we're only taking chump change of their worth so we can live. You know what's bullshit? [img]http://aminy320.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/jon_stewart_narrowweb__300x44521.jpg[/img] Now, for one, I love Jon Stewart. But's bullshit when a [b]man who appears four days a week, for 30 minutes, and just rants (although very funny), makes more money by millions than my coworkers and I: Construction workers who built that fucking ground, the entire building, and the studio where Jon Stewart performs[/b].

Funny thing is, it probably helped the economy doing this.

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18556733]we're not taking away half of their cash, we're only taking chump change of their worth so we can live. You know what's bullshit? [img]http://aminy320.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/jon_stewart_narrowweb__300x44521.jpg[/img] Now, for one, I love Jon Stewart. But's bullshit when a [b]man who appears four days a week, for 30 minutes, and just rants (although very funny), makes more money by millions than my coworkers and I: Construction workers who built that fucking ground, the entire building, and the studio where Jon Stewart performs[/b].[/QUOTE] dude the locks [img]http://barfblog.foodsafety.ksu.edu/uploads/image/jon_stewart_young.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18556733]makes more money by millions than my coworkers and I: Construction workers who built that fucking ground, the entire building, and the studio where Jon Stewart performs[/b].[/QUOTE] I agree (albeit in a different scenario for me). I always get depressed at work, because we're always renovating houses of really rich people. You go up the hill a few blocks in one particular neighborhood, and the houses are worth 20 million dollars. Who the fuck needs a 20 million dollar house? If I had 1/20th of what they paid for that, I could buy my dream house, and live a chunk of my life without working. 20 people could be set for life with the money they paid for that house.

[QUOTE=Xystus234;18556699]The point isn't that you can't be powerful and run a business empire, the point is you can't sit around and be a fat lazy ass or else you lose your money. Either that or outlaw large amounts of money for inheritances. If someone can sit around and have no problem ruining the economy by dicking around with billions in credit swaps, and it's legal... then we can't trust people to do the right thing, can we?[/QUOTE] Assuming i had the potential to create a massive business empire (there by creating employment and improving the economy) I would'nt bother if someone could just snatch it away and give it to thousands of other people who didn't work at all for it.

[QUOTE=Xystus234;18556699]I know that, I'm just saying we need a whole new system to make sure that people who have billions of dollars use it wisely lest they fuck everything up for everybody else. Because like it or not, money is power, and with power comes responsibility. And you wouldn't trust some guy in a suit walking down the street with your pocketbook, would you?[/QUOTE] Usually I don't randomly hand my wallet to people, regardless of who they are.

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;18556821]Funny thing is, it probably helped the economy doing this.[/QUOTE] yes because theft has always done wonders for the economy

[QUOTE=Insignificant;18557227]yes because theft has always done wonders for the economy[/QUOTE] more than unchanging belligerance towards spending

[QUOTE=Xystus234;18556699]The point isn't that you can't be powerful and run a business empire, the point is you can't sit around and be a fat lazy ass or else you lose your money. Either that or outlaw large amounts of money for inheritances. If someone can sit around and have no problem ruining the economy by dicking around with billions in credit swaps, and it's legal... then we can't trust people to do the right thing, can we? [editline]10:49PM[/editline] I know that, I'm just saying we need a whole new system to make sure that people who have billions of dollars use it wisely lest they fuck everything up for everybody else. Because like it or not, money is power, and with power comes responsibility. And you wouldn't trust some guy in a suit walking down the street with your pocketbook, would you?[/QUOTE] I don't think you've fully grasped how the economy works. and what are you talking about "use it wisely" use it wisely to do what?? these people are rich BECAUSE they use their money wisely, they invest their money, bank it, save it they use their money to create profitable businesses which creates jobs. You would have the government take this money away from them and give it to people for free? so instead of rich people employing people to work for them the government takes the money and shares it out to homeless people, worthless bums who have know idea what to do with money.

[QUOTE=ryandaniels;18556440]I can see your empathy, but I hope you don't think the law should be ignored because one is "nice".[/QUOTE] Oh she should serve the prison term, but she shouldn't be forced to pay it back. That is revenge. Criminal law is not about revenge. EDIT: Unless you are in India. Then it is about revenge.

[QUOTE=GunFox;18557449]Oh she should serve the prison term, but she shouldn't be forced to pay it back. That is revenge. Criminal law is not about revenge. EDIT: Unless you are in India. Then it is about revenge.[/QUOTE] Don't forget most of the Middle East *cough* Saudi Arabia *cough*

[QUOTE=GunFox;18557449]Oh she should serve the prison term, but she shouldn't be forced to pay it back. That is revenge. Criminal law is not about revenge. EDIT: Unless you are in India. Then it is about revenge.[/QUOTE] Not really. You take something, you generally have to pay it back. Although I realize that that isn't really feasible here, so I will concede that they should nullify the debt. Making an old lady pay back millions of dollars isn't really going to do very much good. I do a little jig anytime a criminal get's off easy, so whatev

quit banning Chippay

[QUOTE=ryandaniels;18556022]However, there's no reason why one job/ lifestyle has to be worse than the other. Ever thought that people in manual labor [I]like[/I] their job? Maybe they don't feel the need to have lot's of unnecessary things.[/QUOTE] With all due respect Someone needs to punch you in the face

[QUOTE=TH89;18557598]With all due respect Someone needs to punch you in the face[/QUOTE] Well that's not very friendly

I'm not really a socialist but reading threads like this filled with 16 year old grammar school kids yammering on about how virtuous and intelligent all rich people are and how poor people are all lazy bums quickly turns me

[QUOTE=laval;18557647]I'm not really a socialist but reading threads like this filled with 16 year old grammar school kids yammering on about how virtuous and intelligent all rich people are and how poor people are all lazy bums quickly turns me[/QUOTE] You know what really turns me? When someone thinks they made a point when in reality all they did was throw up a bunch of insults and subjective opinions.