The GOP is predicted to take over the Senate and gain control of the congress after elections in Sep - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Shinycow;45636414]Better fucking happen, I'm tired of these democrat tards.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Shinycow;45559794]You've done jackshit for 6 years. Just because you have two more years does not mean you get a free pass on whatever you want. Worthless president. And the lot of you constantly defending him, blaming anyone who disagrees with his ideas/the way he is running (ruining) this country, racist. [editline]1st August 2014[/editline] But you know what, you're going to go down in the history books. The first African American president. Not a bad thing! It's progress. You'll be going down as one of the worst, if not the worst, presidents this country has ever had.[/QUOTE] Do you ever stop and take a moment to reflect on how fucking stupid your opinions about politics are? Do not vote. Ever.

[QUOTE=Govna;45636506]Do you ever stop and take a moment to reflect on how fucking stupid your opinions about politics are? Do not vote. Ever.[/QUOTE] Sorry I don't appeal to you and 9/10 of SH. If a Democrat fucks up you twats always seem to find a way to say, "oh, it's not that bad." But if a Republican fucks up, "oh my god why do these idiots constantly vote these people into a position of authority?!" No matter what I say, I'll be rated dumb. And I frankly don't really care. I don't really hate democrats, it's just some of the ideas that the party revolves around is dumb. It's nice in concept, but dumb as in it wouldn't work. We don't have the money as a country to fucking supply dumbasses who can't be bothered to find a fucking job money constantly. fuck

[QUOTE=Shinycow;45636597]Sorry I don't appeal to you and 9/10 of SH. If a Democrat fucks up you twats always seem to find a way to say, "oh, it's not that bad." But if a Republican fucks up, "oh my god why do these idiots constantly vote these people into a position of authority?!" No matter what I say, I'll be rated dumb. And I frankly don't really care. I don't really hate democrats, it's just some of the ideas that the party revolves around is dumb. It's nice in concept, but dumb as in it wouldn't work. We don't have the money as a country to fucking supply dumbasses who can't be bothered to find a fucking job money constantly. fuck[/QUOTE] i agree, i'd rather have these dumbasses to either starve to death or resort to crime, both good for society fucking parasites i tell you!

This is due to baby boomers retiring, gotta watch these idiots get elected again because the average voter has the attention span of a goldfish too.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45636658]We'd probably have plenty of money if we'd stop giving tax breaks to the same corperations that ship their jobs overseas...[/QUOTE] well, why dont these damn poor people just pull up their bootstraps and just move to that oversea country to work??? just have them ask their parents for money, open up a business, then fly over there

[QUOTE=Shinycow;45636597]Sorry I don't appeal to you and 9/10 of SH. If a Democrat fucks up you twats always seem to find a way to say, "oh, it's not that bad." But if a Republican fucks up, "oh my god why do these idiots constantly vote these people into a position of authority?!" No matter what I say, I'll be rated dumb. And I frankly don't really care. I don't really hate democrats, it's just some of the ideas that the party revolves around is dumb. It's nice in concept, but dumb as in it wouldn't work. We don't have the money as a country to fucking supply dumbasses who can't be bothered to find a fucking job money constantly. fuck[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;0BzItCPk5j4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BzItCPk5j4[/video] This kinda is why

[QUOTE=Shinycow;45636597]Sorry I don't appeal to you and 9/10 of SH. If a Democrat fucks up you twats always seem to find a way to say, "oh, it's not that bad." But if a Republican fucks up, "oh my god why do these idiots constantly vote these people into a position of authority?!" No matter what I say, I'll be rated dumb. And I frankly don't really care. I don't really hate democrats, it's just some of the ideas that the party revolves around is dumb. It's nice in concept, but dumb as in it wouldn't work. We don't have the money as a country to fucking supply dumbasses who can't be bothered to find a fucking job money constantly. fuck[/QUOTE] What the hell are you talking about? Obama's fucked up before and people here have gone after him. He is not by any means the worst president in history though, and anybody who claims he is frankly is an utter moron with no background on United States history. Same for people who claim he hasn't "done anything"; do you voluntarily not pay attention to the news and contemporary events, or what? The reason why we're more vocal about Republicans fucking up is because they have a knack for doing it a lot more, whether it's over health care reform, abortion, religion, or over some other ridiculously straightforward and trivial thing. And with the Tea Party's influence infecting them, that's only helped to make them easier targets. I'm sorry to have to be the one to tell you this, but you're siding with a party that's been a national embarrassment for well over a decade now. The government shutdown just last year, the childish behavior over Obamacare that completely sapped the law in the first place, the retarded conspiracy theories over Benghazi and Obama's citizenship, climate change denialism... the list goes on. Why do I even bother pointing out this shit? Everyone here remembers the crap we've had to go through with them I'm sure. It literally makes no sense to vote for this party. If you even want to dignify it as a party. It's, again, an embarrassment.

[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;45636293]man that fucking suck's have you thought maybe mining or something that's easy to get hired and after that try and move to some other spot.? Canada or Europe.?[/QUOTE] Currently that's what I'm working on. I'm pretty confident that since I've got one good reference already that I have a bit of a chance to get hired on somewhere else next season, but seasonal things aren't gonna do it. Definitely considering moving to the UK.

Obama and the Democratic party have gotten tons of negative reactions since they came into office. It was the same when Bush and the Republicans were in power before them. Trying to set up either party as the target of some grand conspiracy to put them, and only them, down everytime they do something is not going to make me take you very seriously.

[QUOTE=Shinycow;45636597]Sorry I don't appeal to you and 9/10 of SH. If a Democrat fucks up you twats always seem to find a way to say, "oh, it's not that bad." But if a Republican fucks up, "oh my god why do these idiots constantly vote these people into a position of authority?!" No matter what I say, I'll be rated dumb. And I frankly don't really care. I don't really hate democrats, it's just some of the ideas that the party revolves around is dumb. It's nice in concept, but dumb as in it wouldn't work. We don't have the money as a country to fucking supply dumbasses who can't be bothered to find a fucking job money constantly. fuck[/QUOTE] you guys have a party which is run of the mill-corrupt and another that is veering towards batshit crazy corrupt(their obsession with rape for instance is half-hilarious/half-creepy/insane), which one do you think (sane) people will prefer. :v: [T]http://i.imgur.com/2Pt1F.gif[/T]

Dems won't win the house again until 2020, it's too gerrymandered. And even then the states will probably redistrict it again and make it even more R favored.

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;45636860]you guys have a party which is run of the mill-corrupt and another that is veering towards batshit crazy corrupt(their obsession with rape for instance is half-hilarious/half-creepy/insane), which one do you think (sane) people will prefer. :v: [T]http://i.imgur.com/2Pt1F.gif[/T][/QUOTE]That chart is up to volume 8 now. [url]http://goprapeadvisorychart.com/[/url]

The republicans are imploding anyway, also whats up in that article, not all 435 seats of the house are up for re election, just the majority of the tea party and a large slice of democrats Even if republicans take the house and senate that will just give the tea party remainders more incentive to be baligerant assholes and crash the government since they just have republicans to deal with [editline]9th August 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Mysterious;45636748]Currently that's what I'm working on. I'm pretty confident that since I've got one good reference already that I have a bit of a chance to get hired on somewhere else next season, but seasonal things aren't gonna do it. Definitely considering moving to the UK.[/QUOTE] Dude if you've got tax problems fleeing to the UK is the last place you want to go. [editline]9th August 2014[/editline] Quite honestly both parties are shit, the republicans are openly run by big business and industrial interest while the democrats are just behind the scenes run by the same industrial interests, just ones that conflict with the republicans. Neither one actually represents the people they say they do

Wait what, I just noticed the title says September, ya fucked up

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;45637074]That chart is up to volume 8 now. [url]http://goprapeadvisorychart.com/[/url][/QUOTE] that's even worst than i thought :suicide:

Lol at facepunch thinking theres a big difference between republicans and democrats. Sure republicans is alot more stupid to listen to, but behind the scenes after they played their theater where allmost nothing passes, both parties allways find room to pass tax cuts for selected bussiness or "adjusting" the bribery laws a little.

[QUOTE=mrpirate;45639981]Lol at facepunch thinking theres a big difference between republicans and democrats. Sure republicans is alot more stupid to listen to, but behind the scenes after they played their theater where allmost nothing passes, both parties allways find room to pass tax cuts for selected bussiness or "adjusting" the bribery laws a little.[/QUOTE]Believe it or not, there are differences and at the end of the day the GOP is much, much worse. Middle of the road garbage doesn't hold up in reality.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;45640022]Believe it or not, there are differences and at the end of the day the GOP is much, much worse. Middle of the road garbage doesn't hold up in reality.[/QUOTE] I'm talking about the policies that actually gets passed, not the talking points. Obama carried over the Bush policies, he even got the left wing to accept war. There would have been a huge outcry from the left on alot of stuff, if Bush was still in office. Edit: What is it the third time Obama launched military attacks without consulting the congress now? I've lost count.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;45640022]Believe it or not, there are differences and at the end of the day the GOP is much, much worse. Middle of the road garbage doesn't hold up in reality.[/QUOTE]"Middle of the road garbage?" Yeah, I'm going to keep voting on a case-by-case basis because not all Republicans are crazy and not all Democrats are sane. I don't follow party lines because I'm not a fucking moron, though I can see why it happens because most aren't going to spend the entire election carefully researching.

I refuse to vote in the national elections, but I'll vote for people in the state elections. The national elections are to much "lesser evil" bullshit for me to care, and I'd rather vote on the basis of things that'll directly effect me.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45635858]Maybe he has a preexisting medical condition and his insurance company will tell him "lol, we're not paying, go away and have fun dying" the second the ACA gets repealed.[/QUOTE] All you morons act like Congress has the final say. They can't do shit without the President signing off on it. Last time I checked, the President was a Democrat.

This is actually a really good thing because it means that the spotlight is on Republicans to get things done and they don't have much time to impress us. If they can't do their jobs then they'll lose control in 2018, which would be terrible for them because it's more than likely we'll get a Democrat as President again and that will put Democrats in control of Congress for a while.

America needs a third party, this constant back and forth between the Democrats and Republicans is hardly democratic. There's no way that two political parties can accommodate the ideologies of 318,531,000 people. ...Not that things are really much better in the UK with Labour and the Conservatives, but at least we have smaller parties like the Lib Dems, Greens and Ukip that are notable enough to have some form of political power (though mostly indirectly), As well as national parties for the devolved areas which campaign for issues within their borders (Wales - Plaid Cymru, Scotland - The SNP etc). Sadly, considering the size of the country and the First Past the Post electoral system, it looks like there's basically no chance for an new, independent party to even get a seat in the House of Representatives, let alone get into a coalition or even become the majority party.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45640272]Believe it or not, there are some good republicans and there are some shitty democrats. Voting based on "x party is better" is just as bad as voting based on a single issue, or not voting at all. Looking at your politician as a whole, regardless of party lines, is the best way to cast a vote.[/QUOTE]The parties do matter, as much as you pretend they don't. You do get to choose who you align yourself to, and the parties do carry overarching ideas that influence all members. The idea of the party platform. They exist to begin with because they are gathering of relatively like minded individuals. They do compel their members to adopt certain policies. And given that at the end of the day, the parties are willful association, that can absolutely be used when judging them. [editline]9th August 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;45640255]"Middle of the road garbage?" Yeah, I'm going to keep voting on a case-by-case basis because not all Republicans are crazy and not all Democrats are sane. I don't follow party lines because I'm not a fucking moron, though I can see why it happens because most aren't going to spend the entire election carefully researching.[/QUOTE]That middle of the road garbage is this stupid "Well, they're both just as bad!" mentality that is entirely false. Has nothing to do with a specific individual, its about the parties themselves. [editline]9th August 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=theblah12;45641184]America needs a third party, this constant back and forth between the Democrats and Republicans is hardly democratic. There's no way that two political parties can accommodate the ideologies of 318,531,000 people. ...Not that things are really much better in the UK with Labour and the Conservatives, but at least we have smaller parties like the Lib Dems, Greens and Ukip that are notable enough to have some form of political power (though mostly indirectly), As well as national parties for the devolved areas which campaign for issues within their borders (Wales - Plaid Cymru, Scotland - The SNP etc). Sadly, considering the size of the country and the First Past the Post electoral system, it looks like there's basically no chance for an new, independent party to even get a seat in the House of Representatives, let alone get into a coalition or even become the majority party.[/QUOTE] We do have a fairly big third party, its the Tea Party, and its psychotic.

[QUOTE=theblah12;45641184]America needs a third party, this constant back and forth between the Democrats and Republicans is hardly democratic. There's no way that two political parties can accommodate the ideologies of 318,531,000 people. ...Not that things are really much better in the UK with Labour and the Conservatives, but at least we have smaller parties like the Lib Dems, Greens and Ukip that are notable enough to have some form of political power (though mostly indirectly), As well as national parties for the devolved areas which campaign for issues within their borders (Wales - Plaid Cymru, Scotland - The SNP etc). Sadly, considering the size of the country and the First Past the Post electoral system, it looks like there's basically no chance for an new, independent party to even get a seat in the House of Representatives, let alone get into a coalition or even become the majority party.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately due to the way the the US election system is set up, It will always revert to 2 parties. [video=youtube;s7tWHJfhiyo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo&list=PL7679C7ACE93A5638[/video] Not even that but I feel like Gerrymandering is getting more common in the US. [video=youtube;Mky11UJb9AY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mky11UJb9AY&index=3&list=PL7679C7ACE93A5638[/video] We seriously need to reform our Political Election system in the US, but the problem with that is that no Politician would ever do that because it's just easier to get elected the current way by bribing your way to the top.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45641253]Did you even read what I said? There are people in this country that would look at a candidate that could magically fix the economy, our education, and our debt with a snap of his fingers, and would still not vote for the guy because he was a republican or a democrat. That's fucking dumb, if you're not voting for someone purely because "lol republican, or lol democrat" then you're just as much of a problem as the people who aren't voting. You should vote for the candidate that best suits your views, regardless of what party said candidate belongs to. I have a grandmother who, until very very recently, would vote republican, EVEN IF SHE DIDN'T AGREE WITH THE CANDIDATE; these kind of people are what's constantly fucking us over, and are the reason you can't trust congress to get ANYTHING done.[/QUOTE]Yes I did read what you posted, and that doesn't change what I said. I didn't say to vote solely on party lines, I said it can be used to judge them because you willingly associate with parties, whom establish and push policy on their members. That the parties are not equal, and people who try to argue that they are have no clue what they are talking about and are just saying that to look intelligent when they really just look like a tool.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;45641198]The parties do matter, as much as you pretend they don't. You do get to choose who you align yourself to, and the parties do carry overarching ideas that influence all members. The idea of the party platform. They exist to begin with because they are gathering of relatively like minded individuals. They do compel their members to adopt certain policies. And given that at the end of the day, the parties are willful association, that can absolutely be used when judging them. [editline]9th August 2014[/editline] That middle of the road garbage is this stupid "Well, they're both just as bad!" mentality that is entirely false. Has nothing to do with a specific individual, its about the parties themselves. [editline]9th August 2014[/editline] We do have a fairly big third party, its the Tea Party, and its psychotic.[/QUOTE] Well if i lived there i would try to vote for an honest politician, that has a voting record based on principles and not on bribes. Some times that is gonna be a democrat, some times a republican, but probably an independent most of the time. If that candidate can win however is another story. In the national election it seems as it's two puppets against each other and any third party candidate with a gram of credibility gets written off by the media. [QUOTE=ilikecorn;45641314]Except they really are both full of good ideas and shitty ones? Where ever did I say "lol both parties are shit". The republicans don't have all the answers and neither do the democrats, and it's foolish to think that one party is better than the other in every way.[/QUOTE] Neither of the parties are trying to find the answers, that is the real problem. They are too busy raking in campaign contributions.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;45641198] We do have a fairly big third party, its the Tea Party, and its psychotic.[/QUOTE] But the Tea Party isn't a official party, it's just a subset of Republican politicians which try to bring the party further right, they're not independent of the Republican Party. It's not like Ukip in the UK which broke off from the Conservative party, and are completely independent from it. Ukip and the Conservatives exist separately from each other. The closest UK equivalent to the Tea Party is the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-operative_Party]Co-op Party[/url], who's members run as labour members in general elections (even then, the party is legally registered as independent of Labour)

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45641314]Except they really are both full of good ideas and shitty ones? Where ever did I say "lol both parties are shit". The republicans don't have all the answers and neither do the democrats, and it's foolish to think that one party is better than the other in every way.[/QUOTE]Well, I guess you didn't read the post you originally responded to then. Or the one I was responding to. [editline]9th August 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=theblah12;45641344]But the Tea Party isn't a official party, it's just a subset of Republican politicians which try to bring the party further right, they're not independent of the Republican Party. It's not like Ukip in the UK which broke off from the Conservative party, and are completely independent from it. Ukip and the Conservatives exist separately from each other. The closest UK equivalent to the Tea Party is the [Co-op Party]([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-operative_Party[/url]), who's members run as labour members in general elections (even then, the party is legally registered as independent of Labour)[/QUOTE]The Tea Party considers itself independent, most of its candidates also run as independents. They've lost ground recently though because people realized they were a bit too batshit crazy.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45641374]No, I've read the thread. "the GOP is much much worse". At some things.. and are better than the democrats at others, believing one party is better/worse than the other is childish.[/QUOTE]Not really, we can actually look at the parties overall and genuinely make a judgement that one party is better or worse. Just because one side may have one or two good ideas does not pass off the eight and a half thousand awful, idiotic ones, and it does not make them equal to one that may have hundreds of crap ideas, but far more at least passable ones and far more good ones. That's the middle of the road bullshit I'm talking about. "They're just as bad as each other!" is crap. And if you believe that yourself, you're delusional or in denial.