• A Bacterium resistant to every single antibiotic known has been found in New Zealand, resulting in o
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Times like this is why I wish I never played pandemic.
A man (On facepunch) once compared alcohol killing bacteria and antibiotics killing bacteria to killing rats with a shotgun or rat poison. The rat can become resistant to poison if small dosages are taken over a long time (more or less). The rat CANNOT become resistant to a 12 gauge shell to the face. So the solution to our bacteria delema? Simple. WE MUST EVOLVE TO DRINK PURE ALCOHOL! (And get drunk as fuck!)
[QUOTE=TheMrFailz;42965903]A man (On facepunch) once compared alcohol killing bacteria and antibiotics killing bacteria to killing rats with a shotgun or rat poison. The rat can become resistant to poison if small dosages are taken over a long time (more or less). The rat CANNOT become resistant to a 12 gauge shell to the face. So the solution to our bacteria delema? Simple. WE MUST EVOLVE TO DRINK PURE ALCOHOL! (And get drunk as fuck!)[/QUOTE] Thereby lowering our immune system temporarily, allowing a window of infiltration. That's exactly what a bacteria would want. You're a bacteria aren't you?
[QUOTE=OvB;42964655]The only logical thing to do is firebomb all of New Zealand.[/QUOTE] Please do. [QUOTE=Sir Drone;42965386]Holy shit it's the multi-eyed bacterium Spider[/QUOTE] [I][U]PLEASE DO SO RIGHT THE FUCK NOW. [/U][/I]
[QUOTE=Trumple;42965950]Thereby lowering our immune system temporarily, allowing a window of infiltration. That's exactly what a bacteria would want. You're a bacteria aren't you?[/QUOTE] SHH NOTHING TO SEE HERE! Totally not a bacteria!
We are screwed [t]http://i.imgur.com/cpdzA7h.png[/t] Starting region: New Zealand..
[QUOTE=TheMrFailz;42965903]A man (On facepunch) once compared alcohol killing bacteria and antibiotics killing bacteria to killing rats with a shotgun or rat poison. The rat can become resistant to poison if small dosages are taken over a long time (more or less). The rat CANNOT become resistant to a 12 gauge shell to the face. So the solution to our bacteria delema? Simple. WE MUST EVOLVE TO DRINK PURE ALCOHOL! (And get drunk as fuck!)[/QUOTE] We should just go ahead and all become supermutants. And THEN get drunk as fuck on pure alcohol.
[QUOTE=salty peanut v2;42963890]I bet it isn't resistant to burning napalm[/QUOTE] it is
This is nature's way of shrinking the population. Fuck you nature.
[QUOTE=Riller;42965691]Well, of course it's not good for us, but it's not like from this day forth, all bugs are superbugs and antibiotics are less effective than a homeopathic placebo herb in all possible uses; which is the vibe a lot of articles on the subject give off. They all go "Well, pack up heart surgery, trauma treatment and cancer research and bin it. Superbugs are here, the dream is over" when it's really more a case of "Oh. Superbugs. Guess we better see about finding a solution to those [I]bug[/I]gers. Get it? Super[I]bug[/I], [I]bug[/I]gers? Heh."[/QUOTE] You're 100% right that it doesn't make everything useless, but the main issue is that hospital acquired infections are absolute bitches to deal with. Surgeons would be much less willing to perform surgery if they know that there is even a single case somewhere in the hospital (which would literally have to be quarantined) as if that infects a wound post op, there's nearly no way the immunosupressed patient's going to be able to deal with it. We desparately need more R&D in the antibiotics department, and we really need to try to tighten control on every single antibiotic out there. I find it funny that opiates are more strongly controlled than many antibiotics, when the whole hospital system would break down with the loss of the latter. (well, it'd have a whole load of grief with a loss of the former too, but y'know) [QUOTE=TheMrFailz;42965903]A man (On facepunch) once compared alcohol killing bacteria and antibiotics killing bacteria to killing rats with a shotgun or rat poison. The rat can become resistant to poison if small dosages are taken over a long time (more or less). The rat CANNOT become resistant to a 12 gauge shell to the face. So the solution to our bacteria delema? Simple. WE MUST EVOLVE TO DRINK PURE ALCOHOL! (And get drunk as fuck!)[/QUOTE] I'm afraid that my research on [i]willing[/i] test subjects confirmed that even after an alcohol blood content of 0.01%, patients still reported infections post surgery. Suspect loss of soap has something to do with it, but patients still got infections. Sincerely Urist McDocMD, Chief Medical Dorf
This has only been publicised because it caused a death, there are probably loads of totally unknown strains of bacteria that are equally resilient but also totally passive
Did they try shooting it?
I saw a TED Talk about a new way to kill bacteria by sending a chemical signal to cause them to stop reproducing. It seemed very hopeful. If this bacteria starts as a localized infection, couldn't it be handled with radiation?
Im scared of a bacteria version of sarin gas: [img]http://i.imgur.com/BHW67pU.png[/img]
We better throw more money at nanotechnology. An artificial immune system would in my view be the most viable long-term solution, not just for resistant bacteria but all health problems, once we have perfected it.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;42968173]We better throw more money at nanotechnology. An artificial immune system would in my view be the most viable long-term solution, not just for resistant bacteria but all health problems, once we have perfected it.[/QUOTE] Only problem with this would be that our bodies get dependent on this artificial immune system, meaning a natural one wouldn't develop. Then if for whatever reason the artificial one doesn't work, we are super fucked. (For example, say a company has a 3 month shot of nanites that act as an artificial immune system. You would be at the mercy of their pricing and business.)
[QUOTE=Gnomical;42968366]Only problem with this would be that our bodies get dependent on this artificial immune system, meaning a natural one wouldn't develop. Then if for whatever reason the artificial one doesn't work, we are super fucked. (For example, say a company has a 3 month shot of nanites that act as an artificial immune system. You would be at the mercy of their pricing and business.)[/QUOTE] Said company could effectively rule the world, especially if they released a new virus and told everyone they needed an "[i]upgrade[/i] for $1000"
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;42968173]We better throw more money at nanotechnology. An artificial immune system would in my view be the most viable long-term solution, not just for resistant bacteria but all health problems, once we have perfected it.[/QUOTE] what, and end up at the mercy of needing Ambrosia to cure sickness like in Deus Ex?
one death is like, nothing really even 20 or 40 is very low for a "super bug"
This is why people really need to stop over reacting with Anti-Biotics, it'll create super bugs.
[QUOTE=KennyAwsum;42968429]This is why people really need to stop over reacting with Anti-Biotics, it'll create super bugs.[/QUOTE] Too late bro.
[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;42968442]Too late bro.[/QUOTE] god damn it why does nobody listen to me
[QUOTE=J!NX;42968408]one death is like, nothing really even 20 or 40 is very low for a "super bug"[/QUOTE] That's just how it starts. If we can't stop it, we have no way of protecting ourselves other than pure isolation of any infected individuals. If even one cell escapes and has time to reproduce on a surface, we are back to square one when someone gets infected from it.
only borg nanoprobes can save us now
[QUOTE=Quark:;42967442]I saw a TED Talk about a new way to kill bacteria by sending a chemical signal to cause them to stop reproducing. It seemed very hopeful. If this bacteria starts as a localized infection, couldn't it be handled with radiation?[/QUOTE] Yeah, that was on Horizons, the issue with this method is the strain would have to be detectable first. Generally by the time they've become detectable you're already under attack, and if you're already under attack, you're contagious. For this to work you'd also need a method of detecting the strain. [editline]24th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=KennyAwsum;42968429]This is why people really need to stop over reacting with Anti-Biotics, it'll create super bugs.[/QUOTE] It's a little late for that but we do have defence against a built-up immunity from bacteria like MRSA by stocking antibiotics that have never been used but tested for immunity against most strains of bacteria, which for most come up negative (which is why we keep them). The interesting thing about this strain is that it was immune to all of them without prior exposure.
Welp, I live in New Zealand ..
The only logical solution is to terminate the bacteria, including those carrying it, and see to it that it's unable to exist for prevention of spread of disease. Vaccinations are useless.
It's like "The Stand" except real and we're all going to die.
[QUOTE=LondierX;42968905]The only logical solution is to terminate the bacteria, and see to it that it's unable to exist for prevention of spread of disease. Vaccinations are useless.[/QUOTE] Why are vaccinations useless? Do a Smallpox and keep one culture alive for research into its genetics. It'll be interesting to see just how it's immune to all antibiotics without exposure. And because it's exceptionally resilient developing a vaccine makes sense, because if it does break out there won't be any other relief.
meanwhile, pharmaceutical companies make billions while antibiotics slowly become useless
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