Trump's First Counterterrorism Operation: At Least 15 Women and Children Dead / One US Commando - Polidicks

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51751205]Would this raid not have been ordered under Obama's call? I find it hard to believe that it was decided by Trump - he couldnt have moved that quickly?[/QUOTE] We are only 10 days into his presidency, this raid would have been in the works for much longer. Gathering intelligence and watching them for the right time to strike. Although he probably did give the go ahead but for all the intelligence and work things can go wrong, people who shouldn't die end up dying. Its the harsh truth about war. It doesn't matter who is President, even if this raid happened under Obama civilians might have still died and we still might have lost a SEAL.

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;51754310] "I don't have the luxury of just not doing anything, and then being able to stand back and feel as if my conscious is completely clear. I have to make decisions, because there are folks out there who are genuinely trying to kill us. And would be happy to blow this entire room, without any compunction. And are actively trying to find ways to do it."[/QUOTE] Gaddafi was trying to kill the west? I wish it was all that clear cut.

[QUOTE=Viper_;51756732]Gaddafi was trying to kill the west? I wish it was all that clear cut.[/QUOTE] so did you watch the video for context like i recommended or are you just drive by sniping

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;51756885]so did you watch the video for context like i recommended or are you just drive by sniping[/QUOTE] no president has the luxury of sitting back and doing nothing. Obama has chimed in on Trumps decision to ban people entering the US from certain countries but you will never hear him chime in on operations such as these because he knows that decisions have to be made, regardless.

[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;51756982]no president has the luxury of sitting back and doing nothing. Obama has chimed in on Trumps decision to ban people entering the US from certain countries but you will never hear him chime in on operations such as these because he knows that decisions have to be made, regardless.[/QUOTE] I'm a bit confused about how this relates. Could you elaborate?

[QUOTE=Svinnik;51754236]cool so when are you going to shit on carter for approving Operation Eagle Claw, Clinton for approving the police action in Somalia that led to Black Hawk Down, or Obama for the assassination of Osama? All operations went wrong somehow but apparently it's only Trump's fault for approving a mission that went wrong. Trump is not a prophet, he was briefed and made a decision. This decision didn't have the best outcome. What could he do?[/QUOTE] Good fucking god you're one to leap to assumptions. Yes people in positions of power are responsible for those choices and consequences. I literally made it clear I am holding more than Trump accountable. I hold Obama accountable. Just calm down

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;51757042]I'm a bit confused about how this relates. Could you elaborate?[/QUOTE] did you watch your own video? Obama states that no president has the luxury of sitting back doing nothing, this would include Trump. Obama knows how difficult it is to make the call so he would never criticise anyone else for doing so is the point I was making.

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;51754310] [media]https://youtu.be/Fi1t_aqhCks[/media] [/QUOTE] i just wanted to comment on this great video. i watched the entirety. obama really is a fantastic orator; it never ceases to amaze me. and the information and transparency he can convey in a short amount of time is very impressive. i really envy people who sat at the biggest round tables with him. now unfortunately for trump, he literally does not have the mental capacity to explain his actions effectively and reasonably. he never has. and he never will. it's a national disgrace he holds the highest office furthermore, trump's explanation of this event will surely trigger multiple earthquakes across several federal lands and parks

[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;51757098]did you watch your own video? Obama states that no president has the luxury of sitting back doing nothing, this would include Trump. Obama knows how difficult it is to make the call so he would never criticise anyone else for doing so is the point I was making.[/QUOTE] I watched the video dude, it was an honest question :/ I also understood what your point was, I'm questioning what that has to do with my response to Viper_

[QUOTE=CruelAddict;51752849]I'm sorry to hear that suddenly president must be a military tactical genius once he's on the throne.[/QUOTE] It's literally in the job description: [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Clause_1:_Command_of_military.3B_Opinions_of_cabinet_secretaries.3B_Pardons]Commander in Chief[/url]

Let me just post one of the parts the OP "accidentally" left out. "U.S. officials said some of the women who were killed, however, were combatants and had opened fire on the SEALs as they approached the al Qaeda camp." [url]http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/seal-american-girl-die-first-trump-era-u-s-military-n714346[/url] Honest mistake I guess.

[QUOTE=moffe;51751182]The implication that Donald Trump is personally responsible for the civilian casualties and the dead SEAL is laughable, there were numerous operations with results just like these under every president the last 30 years. There is an enormous amount of shit Trump is directly responsible for but the results of this operation is not one of them, and implying it is is just being intellectualy dishonest and weakening the case against trump.[/QUOTE] the buck stops with the president. i doubt with much of the military and intelligence staff being kicked out of the NSC that this level of compidency will be maintained, Trump and his Cabal will probably not do the work that went into this opperation from here onwards