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Sobotnik, did it ever occur to you that just because you are a sociopath, that doesn't mean everyone else is also secretly a sociopath? Selfish consequences aren't the only things that influence a person's decisions. Sympathy and self-identity also are factors.

[QUOTE=ionuttzu;31160496]USA fix your shit please. The EU/world economy is already horrid enough, but we're starting to recover. I beg you, please don't let your economy fuck up, cause if you do, well this time it will take a LONG FUCKING TIME for the entire world to recover. It will end up either in a lot of countries being broke or prices going so high and wages so little because of austerity measures that an average person's life would suck ass. Basically it will mean civil unrest in most of the world's countries, and a lot of people dying of hunger.[/QUOTE] But we must protect our rich and kill brown savages in other countries! :saddowns: [editline]18th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Megafanx13;31180770]Not really. Ever hear of Reaganomics?[/QUOTE] Oh, and that tiny little thing called AIDS.

[QUOTE=Key_in_skillee;31185243]Sobotnik, did it ever occur to you that just because you are a sociopath, that doesn't mean everyone else is also secretly a sociopath? Selfish consequences aren't the only things that influence a person's decisions. Sympathy and self-identity also are factors.[/QUOTE] I'm not a sociopath good man. Sociopaths don't plan ahead.

That's not the definition of a sociopath, sobotnik.

Looks like I'm a little bit outnumbered here..

[QUOTE=MasterG;31194065]I'm totally biased and only have one viewpoint since i'm in the UK, but it seems like whenever any democratic politician tries to do anything, the republicans desperately oppose it, and then berate the policy for not working when it was never given a chance to get off the ground. That and the fact that it seems most republicans want to kill people rather than save people (Down with obamacare, up with military funding) and it seems that republicans are crazy to me. But like I said, biased, small-picture view here.[/QUOTE] Not biased, totally true. A democrat does something, republican does the opposite.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31193987]Looks like I'm a little bit outnumbered here..[/QUOTE] Not everyone can blindly defend Republicans like you, boba.

[QUOTE=MasterG;31194867]The thing I don't get is when I see "christian Republicans." "I BELIEVE IN THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS CHRIST!" "STOP STEALING MY HARD-EARNED MONEY TO GIVE TO THE POOR WITH YOUR SOCIALISTIC ANTI-CHRISTIAN HEALTHCARE SYSTEM, OBAMA! THEY DESERVE THEIR POVERTY!"[/QUOTE] People take the bits of their religion they like and excise the bits they don't.

[QUOTE=MasterG;31194867]The thing I don't get is when I see "christian Republicans." "I BELIEVE IN THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS CHRIST!" "STOP STEALING MY HARD-EARNED MONEY TO GIVE TO THE POOR WITH YOUR SOCIALISTIC ANTI-CHRISTIAN HEALTHCARE SYSTEM, OBAMA! THEY DESERVE THEIR POVERTY!"[/QUOTE] You know I find funny? I can see Jesus looking at Socialism more than the other end because of him being a man of equality and respect. If your a man of his fashion and don't look at any negatives, an equal, fair system would be best.

[QUOTE=J!NX;31195013]You know I find funny? I can see Jesus looking at Socialism more than the other end because of him being a man of equality and respect. If your a man of his fashion and don't look at any negatives, an equal, fair system would be best.[/QUOTE] Precisely. Even if Jesus' ideology probably isn't best described in terms of modern political terms, he did seem to have progressive ideas and wanted everyone to help everyone else.

[QUOTE=Turnips5;31195067]Precisely. Even if Jesus' ideology probably isn't best described in terms of modern political terms, he did seem to have progressive ideas and wanted everyone to help everyone else.[/QUOTE] This is the issue with most religious, they are blind and don't see the true message Jesus had, or the bible. It wasn't about truth or faith, it was a guide to live your life, your supposed to read it with an open mind and use it as what it was really intended for. The REAL Jesus would want all man to live life how they see fit, helping everyone as equals, and living a life of honesty, respect, and dignity, as cheesy as it sounds. It seems these days you never find too many people with this at all. They read it like a license agreement, scroll to the bottom, and hit "I agree". I'm atheist, but if I read any bible, I would have a very open mind about it and actually use it like it should be, with no belief, only trust, not like an abusive fool.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31192249]I'm not a sociopath good man. Sociopaths don't plan ahead.[/QUOTE] [quote]A sociopath is somebody who exhibits sociopathy, who behaves in a way that suggests a lack of conscience. Unlike the average human, a sociopath does not feel any sense of guilt or remorse when committing morally wrong actions or actions that their society deems unacceptable. Because of this utter lack of fear for the sanctions of society, sociopaths take advantage of the social system and use manipulation and amoral behaviors to obtain their goals. The types of behaviors they exhibit are those that would make someone with a conscience uncomfortable.[/quote] Sounds like you, bro.

[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;31184262] It was never in, say, Blackwater's best interest to make the world "better", because they made their money off war, political corruption, pandering to religious idiocy and murder. You should be aware of this concept from baby's first ethics class when you discussed the inherent flaws of utilitarianism. I hate Sob's normal bullshit as much as the rest of you but right now you guys are acting fucking dense.[/QUOTE] Well you're welcome to continue on being an angsty nihilist and believe that everyone is selfish if you like but that mindset pretty much exclusively belongs to selfish people as an attempt to justify it

Meh, I think people should get what they work for. If that makes me a Republican, so be it. If I find out that someone fell 15,000 feet and survived(check The Indestructibles) and science can't figure out why the fuck he survived,yeah, there's a bad ass wizard out there. People are so perfectly designed it couldn't have been an accident. But that's just my opinion. If that makes me a worse person in anyone's books, so be it. Also, there is no peace without war. Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive.

[QUOTE=Teracotta;31195930]Meh, I think people should get what they work for.[/QUOTE] Yeah but they don't Life's expensive happenstance doesn't only happen to people who can afford it

[QUOTE=Zeke129;31195962]Yeah but they don't Life's expensive happenstance doesn't only happen to people who can afford it[/QUOTE] My family went from foodstamps to 7.5 acres and a small mansion. You get what you work for.

[QUOTE=Teracotta;31196008]My family went from foodstamps to 7.5 acres and a small mansion. You get what you work for.[/QUOTE] For all that we know, your family could've just been in the right places at the right time. So yeah, but no.

[QUOTE=Van-man;31196304]For all that we know, your family could've just been in the right places at the right time. So yeah, but no.[/QUOTE] ^^^ Thought process of someone who doesn't work for stuff. I recently just purchased a gaming computer, paid in full by myself. Wanna know how I got the money? I mowed lawns, got a job, sold my childhood toys and all that bullshit. You get what you work for. The only thing stopping you is yourself.

[QUOTE=Teracotta;31196384]You get what you work for. The only thing stopping you is yourself.[/QUOTE] So what does that make poor people?

I'm a foreigner. But I followed the 2008 election to the point of sitting in front of my computer until 6 in the morning just to follow the election stream (because it was kind of a big deal for the whole world). So I have a good, but not perfect, insight in american politics. Compassion is a thing of the past and your government is completely bonkers. And I agree with the German papers in thinking that Republicans are dangerous maniacs.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31196468]So what does that make poor people?[/QUOTE] Just a generalization, like the rest of this thread, lazy. The vast majority of poor people are poor because they don't go out and look for a better job. They say, "Hey cool, McDonald's is hiring." They put out minimal effort, they get minimal everything in return.

[QUOTE=Teracotta;31196008]My family went from foodstamps to 7.5 acres and a small mansion. You get what you work for.[/QUOTE] My parents worked their ass off to support two kids, being on foodstamps and living in a section 8 house for a few years. It only got a bit better. You have to be fucking mental to think if you work hard you'll instantly get a small mansion, and you have to be equally more mental to say that possibility means helping and aiding the poor is now less of a priority. [editline]18th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Teracotta;31198100]The vast majority of poor people are poor because they don't go out and look for a better job.[/QUOTE] Not at fucking all, you spoiled little prat.

[QUOTE=Teracotta;31198100]The vast majority of poor people are poor because they don't go out and look for a better job. They say, "Hey cool, McDonald's is hiring." They put out minimal effort, they get minimal everything in return.[/QUOTE] How do you know that this is true?

Because you've all led such hard knock lives.

[QUOTE=Teracotta;31200010]Because you've all led such hard knock lives.[/QUOTE] Obviously I can't speak for anyone except myself, but I have lived a pretty low-class life. However you did not answer my question. How do you know that poor people are only poor because they don't work hard enough? What reasoning do you have to back this up?

[QUOTE=Teracotta;31196384]I recently just purchased a gaming computer, paid in full by myself. Wanna know how I got the money? I mowed lawns, got a job, sold my childhood toys and all that bullshit.[/QUOTE] What the hell neighborhood do you live in where mowing lawns can get you enough money to contribute to buying a fucking gaming computer?

[QUOTE=Zeke129;31195294]Well you're welcome to continue on being an angsty nihilist and believe that everyone is selfish if you like but that mindset pretty much exclusively belongs to selfish people as an attempt to justify it[/QUOTE] Not everyone who disagrees with moral absolutism and your personal theory of human motivation is an angsty nihilist, fuck. You're behaving like the enemy, put on your rationality hat. [QUOTE=MasterG;31194867]The thing I don't get is when I see "christian Republicans." "I BELIEVE IN THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS CHRIST!" "STOP STEALING MY HARD-EARNED MONEY TO GIVE TO THE POOR WITH YOUR SOCIALISTIC ANTI-CHRISTIAN HEALTHCARE SYSTEM, OBAMA! THEY DESERVE THEIR POVERTY!"[/QUOTE] The explanation I hear for this normally (and take it with a grain of salt) is that they'd rather be allowed to sacrifice their money and effort to causes of their own choosing rather than be compelled to support causes which they have little input on and oversight of. The typical anecdote is something along the lines of "look what [government-funded thing] did in [city] with minimum wage employees versus what [church group manned thing] did in [city] with volunteers and donations." Then again, I hear that from republicans who actually [I]do[/I] that kind of shit on a regular basis and don't spout the "fuck the poor people" rhetoric. Maybe the further right you go the more you see the gubberment as the primary threat, like "we'll help the lowly and downtrodden after we've removed the socialist dictator from power and restored the fine Christian morals of the populace."

[QUOTE=Zeke129;31195294]Well you're welcome to continue on being an angsty nihilist and believe that everyone is selfish if you like but that mindset pretty much exclusively belongs to selfish people as an attempt to justify it[/QUOTE] I believe all actions are inherently selfish, but not that that's a bad thing. Improve the world is a selfish cause for many would just like to see the world better for themselves, the joy received from others having a good world being a benefit of said selfishness, it's inherit in the way we act. There are obvious cases where people are just flat out selfish in an immediate sense and that's much less appealing in the long run.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;31203688]I believe all actions are inherently selfish, but not that that's a bad thing. [/QUOTE] How is, say, walking by and giving a homeless person some money selfish?

[QUOTE=amute;31206662]How is, say, walking by and giving a homeless person some money selfish?[/QUOTE] If you are religious, it reduces your chance of going to hell. If you believe in karma, you may think that something good will happen in the future as a result (Or bad if you do not) If it makes you feel good to see another person happy, you are being inherently selfish as the reason you did it was to make yourself feel good. You might do it because somebody is with you and will be influenced by your actions. It isn't all bad, but by exploiting the inherent selfishness of the human race we can create a better world. Which in the end serves my and your self interest.