Tea Party counter-protesters join fray in Wisconsin
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[QUOTE=Ridge;28219917]Many of them aren't union workers, and can't just take a day off work to go yell slogans at the Capitol without fear of reprisal from their employers.[/QUOTE]
what does that have to do with unions?
[QUOTE=thisispain;28220910]what does that have to do with unions?[/QUOTE]
well you see if you have a union you can't ever be fired and you can do whatever you want and you're probably a communist
[QUOTE=Ridge;28219917]Many of them aren't union workers, and can't just take a day off work to go yell slogans at the Capitol without fear of reprisal from their employers.[/QUOTE]
You mean if I was in a union I could take days off from work? Sign me up!
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;28200899]Glaber, what's to understand about conservatism? it's about holding onto the past and not progressing. What good does that do[/QUOTE]
Also, someone should tell everyone who uses "liberal" almost like a racial slur that the very act of creating a new government style, like the United States did, is very liberal by definition.
[editline]23rd February 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Dalndox;28202610][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_expansion_of_the_United_States#Since_1848]You rang?[/url][/QUOTE]
Pretty much every superpower has done something imperial at least a few times. It's just how politics are.
[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;28221532]Also, someone should tell everyone who uses "liberal" almost like a racial slur that the very act of creating a new government style, like the United States did, is very liberal by definition.[/QUOTE]
Yea, and the liberal democrats are trying to force a change the rest of the country doesn't want.
[QUOTE=Glaber;28221646]Yea, and the liberal democrats are trying to force a change the rest of the country doesn't want.[/QUOTE]
Well Obama got a majority of the votes based on his platform of healthcare reform, financial reform, and other "liberal democrat" things so I believe you're wrong.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28221901]Well Obama got a majority of the votes based on his platform of healthcare reform, financial reform, and other "liberal democrat" things so I believe you're wrong.[/QUOTE]
acorn did it
[QUOTE=Glaber;28221646]Yea, and the liberal democrats are trying to force a change the rest of the country doesn't want.[/QUOTE]
You're right! The rest of the country doesn't want change.
Fuck that whole election thing where he won the majority vote. Those people don't count as the "rest of the country".
[QUOTE=Dalndox;28222426]You're right! The rest of the country doesn't want change.
Fuck that whole election thing where he won the majority vote. Those people don't count as the "rest of the country".[/QUOTE]
well see they're fake america and we're real america
Obama ran on an undefined platform of "Hope and Change" and won because of that. We're only now just learning what that change really is.
[QUOTE=Glaber;28222471]Obama ran on an undefined platform of "Hope and Change" and won because of that. We're only now just learning what that change really is.[/QUOTE]
No that was his slogan
You see
He often opened his mouth and the things that came out of his mouth outlined his platform
But I can see how someone of your superior intellect could believe that reading a few words on the front of his podium would give you all the info you needed
[QUOTE=Glaber;28222471]Obama ran on an undefined platform of "Hope and Change" and won because of that. We're only now just learning what that change really is.[/QUOTE]
It's like people suddenly forgot what the Democrat's party platform was.
"He said change, but it wasn't the change I thought it would be." :downs:
I actually have a copy of both party platforms on my computer, they're pretty easy to get a hold of.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;28222697]It's like people suddenly forgot what the Democrat's party platform was.
"He said change, but it wasn't the change I thought it would be." :downs:
I actually have a copy of both party platforms on my computer, they're pretty easy to get a hold of.[/QUOTE]
Politifact.com outlines every promise Obama made during his campaign
go read it glaber
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28222567]No that was his slogan
You see
He often opened his mouth and the things that came out of his mouth outlined his platform
But I can see how someone of your superior intellect could believe that reading a few words on the front of his podium would give you all the info you needed[/QUOTE]
I though his slogan was "Change you can believe in".
[QUOTE=Glaber;28222471]Obama ran on an undefined platform of "Hope and Change" and won because of that. We're only now just learning what that change really is.[/QUOTE]
See, this is why I refuse to believe you're twenty four.
Just imagine someone as stupid as you funtioning in day to day life. Someone like you would sue the fucking postal service for touting it's delivery as "fast" when it so obviously takes days for packages to arrive. Someone like you would sue Budweiser because the Billboard said that the beer was "refreshing" but not that it would get you drunk.
[QUOTE=Glaber;28222794]I though his slogan was "Change you can believe in".[/QUOTE]
Nitpicking and avoiding the topic
[QUOTE=Glaber;28222794]I though his slogan was "Change you can believe in".[/QUOTE]
yes
yes, you are absolutely right
his slogan was literally longer than his description of what he would do in office
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;28222876]yes
yes, you are absolutely right
his slogan was literally longer than his description of what he would do in office[/QUOTE]
longer than his non-existent birth certificate too
I never knew collective bargaining rights were so evil.
It just so happens that the states that banned collective bargaining rights (SC, MS, VA, LA, AL) happen to have the lowest overall SAT/ACT scores for their students.
[QUOTE=Glaber;28222471]Obama ran on an undefined platform of "Hope and Change" and won because of that. We're only now just learning what that change really is.[/QUOTE]
Because he never told people anything he was planning on doing, right?
Fuck, you're dense. For someone so insistent on following politics, you've done nothing but prove that you have a severe cranio-rectal inversion when it comes down to it.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28222926]longer than his non-existent birth certificate too[/QUOTE]
We really have no idea if Obama is a US citizen since we've never seen his birth certificate. Hell, we have no idea if he's a man. We've never seen his penis have we?
If my theory is correct, Obama could be something much worse than a foreigner. A woman.
John McCain ran on an undefined platform of "Prunes and Liver Spots"
The fuck Glaber. You can't even blame this on us being biased, you're actually just too stupid to even be involved in this discussion. Why do you think we make fun of you? For a different view point? No, not even close man. Your ignorance and naivety. It's like you were TOLD about what his election was about by Rush Limbaugh and never questioned it.
So who did you not question? Or are you not a US citizen and unable to vote for US President?
Hmmmmmmm, okay Wisconsin government. We need to make a choice here.
Not going bankrupt...... Or giving a few thousand public employees jobs.......
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;28222962]I never knew collective bargaining rights were so evil.
It just so happens that the states that banned collective bargaining rights (SC, MS, VA, LA, AL) happen to have the lowest overall SAT/ACT scores for their students.[/QUOTE]
Must be bad teachers then. Of course if we want to talk about school failures then here's a relevant one, According to CNS, 2/3 of Wisconsin's public school 8th graders can't read all that well, even with all that spending on education.
[url]http://cnsnews.com/news/article/two-thirds-wisconsin-public-school-8th-g[/url]
[QUOTE=Glaber;28223955]So who did you not question?[/QUOTE]
Uh, nobody. . .?
[editline]23rd February 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Glaber;28223985]Oh please, Quit telling us what you would do. As if we don't have enough frivolous lawsuits already.[/QUOTE]
. . .
Are you joking?
[QUOTE=Glaber;28223985]Must be bad teachers then. Of course if we want to talk about school failures then here's a relevant one, According to CNS, 2/3 of Wisconsin's public school 8th graders can't read even with all that spending on education.
[url]http://cnsnews.com/news/article/two-thirds-wisconsin-public-school-8th-g[/url][/QUOTE]
Well that's how teachers turn bad when you take away their union, their only way to get additional benefits for their low salary job.
[QUOTE=Glaber;28223985]Must be bad teachers then. Of course if we want to talk about school failures then here's a relevant one, According to CNS, 2/3 of Wisconsin's public school 8th graders can't read even with all that spending on education.
[url]http://cnsnews.com/news/article/two-thirds-wisconsin-public-school-8th-g[/url][/QUOTE]
Find me that from a mainstream news service.
Take away their union? You didn't even read the article did you?
[quote]In the National Assessment of Educational Progress tests administered by the U.S. Department of Education[B] in 2009—the latest year available[/B]—only 32 percent of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders earned a “proficient” rating while another 2 percent earned an “advanced” rating. The other 66 percent of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders earned ratings below “proficient,” including 44 percent who earned a rating of “basic” and 22 percent who earned a rating of “below basic.”[/quote]
[url]http://cnsnews.com/news/article/two-thirds-wisconsin-public-school-8th-g[/url]
They could only get info up to 2 years ago. this is before what's happening now.
[editline]22nd February 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Prismatex;28224063]Find me that from a mainstream news service.[/QUOTE]
Why not direct from their source?
[url]http://nces.ed.gov/pubsearch/pubsinfo.asp?pubid=2010458[/url]
[url]http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/pdf/main2009/2010458.pdf[/url] (Page 15)
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