[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;44207303]It looks like a more plain Jag.
I mean, as much as I like Tesla, that car looks quite plain.[/QUOTE]
That's its strongest point, in my opinion. It's an electric car that doesn't look like it came out of an 8 year old's fantasy of the future.
Granted, it doesn't look like a $100,000 car, but it's still nice.
They look amazing in person.
Take that, [I]Communism![/I] You've finally met your match with the power of democracy, freedom, and interchangeable parts!
[QUOTE=OvB;44207400]They look amazing in person.[/QUOTE]
The closest I've gotten to one is a second-hand account from a friend who got to drive one, his only complaint was that the interior looked a little cheap (aside from the screens in the dash).
I'll agree that it's a beautiful car, it's just that if I put myself in the shoes of someone who knows nothing of the tech going on underneath and inside, it doesn't scream "$100,000 luxury car" at me.
lol come on NJ. I fucking hate the Tesla and everything it stands for yet I recognize its right to be on the market. Don't ban it you corrupt fucks.
[QUOTE=TestECull;44207445]lol come on NJ. I fucking hate the Tesla and everything it stands for yet I recognize its right to be on the market. Don't ban it you corrupt fucks.[/QUOTE]
If you want to hate an electric car can't you hate that Fisker Karma POS that deserves hate
[QUOTE=OvB;44207400]They look amazing in person.[/QUOTE]
Ive seen a couple in person
Rather generic looking. Only thing that stood out to me was how massive they are, bigger than a Buick ffs
Also, I think the reason I'm not super impressed by how the Model S looks is because I've only ever seen it in black and white. I found a picture of one in a burgundy-ish colour and it looks better imo
[QUOTE=Zeke129;44207449]If you want to hate an electric car can't you hate that Fisker Karma POS that deserves hate[/QUOTE]
Oh I do. I'm an equal opportunity hater when it comes to electric cars. I don't care who made it, if it's a battery electric I would love nothing more than to see it used as a target for training M1 Abrams tank gunners. I think the entire premise behind a battery electric is a fucking stupid yuppietastic pipe dream that will never be truly practical in the real world and that we should stop fucking around with them and start working on making alternative fuels for piston engines and building out the infrastructure to support hydrogen fuel cells instead.
Still they have a right to be on the market if people want to buy them and they meet federal safety standards.
[QUOTE=gbtygfvyg;44207100]I dunno man, Texas has a decent amount of purchases.[/QUOTE]
Id say most of them are Austin. Ive seen tons of them. There's a Tesla a few blocks away, and the Tesla repair place is about a mile further away. I like to think Austin =/= Texas
[QUOTE=TestECull;44207512]Oh I do. I'm an equal opportunity hater when it comes to electric cars. I don't care who made it, if it's a battery electric I would love nothing more than to see it used as a target for training M1 Abrams tank gunners. I think the entire premise behind a battery electric is a fucking stupid yuppietastic pipe dream that will never be truly practical in the real world and that we should stop fucking around with them and start working on making alternative fuels for piston engines and building out the infrastructure to support hydrogen fuel cells instead.
Still they have a right to be on the market if people want to buy them and they meet federal safety standards.[/QUOTE]
The M1 Abrams doesn't use a piston engine how can you like both
[QUOTE=TestECull;44207512]Oh I do. I'm an equal opportunity hater when it comes to electric cars. I don't care who made it, if it's a battery electric I would love nothing more than to see it used as a target for training M1 Abrams tank gunners. I think the entire premise behind a battery electric is a fucking stupid yuppietastic pipe dream that will never be truly practical in the real world and that we should stop fucking around with them and start working on making alternative fuels for piston engines and building out the infrastructure to support hydrogen fuel cells instead.
Still they have a right to be on the market if people want to buy them and they meet federal safety standards.[/QUOTE]
I won't stop people from making or driving electric cars, but I never want one. I can replace any part on my current car myself, in my driveway, without having much to worry about. Can you replace the brushes in those electric motors in your driveway? What about the batteries? What about upgrading it for more power? See, these are the things I don't like about electrics. I'm not downing people who own them, they just aren't my cup of tea personally.....
[QUOTE=Demolitions2;44207578]Id say most of them are Austin. Ive seen tons of them. There's a Tesla a few blocks away, and the Tesla repair place is about a mile further away. I like to think Austin =/= Texas[/QUOTE]
See them in Houston area.
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Actually the first one I saw was heading out west down highway 105.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;44206892]Are we even run by people anymore?[/QUOTE]
Yes, corporations are considered people.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;44207621]I won't stop people from making or driving electric cars, but I never want one. I can replace any part on my current car myself, in my driveway, without having much to worry about. Can you replace the brushes in those electric motors in your driveway? What about the batteries? What about upgrading it for more power? See, these are the things I don't like about electrics. I'm not downing people who own them, they just aren't my cup of tea personally.....[/QUOTE]
Technically speaking all of those parts are user-replaceable, it just requires a level of proficiency that the average hobbyist today doesn't possess. I can understand not being too happy about a degree in electrical engineering being required to be a gearhead though.
As for batteries, they're about as hard to change as a gas tank, and performance upgrades could theoretically happen via software.
Oh fuck no they didn't.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;44207621]I won't stop people from making or driving electric cars, but I never want one. I can replace any part on my current car myself, in my driveway, without having much to worry about. Can you replace the brushes in those electric motors in your driveway? What about the batteries? What about upgrading it for more power? See, these are the things I don't like about electrics. I'm not downing people who own them, they just aren't my cup of tea personally.....[/QUOTE]
It's a brushless motor. Tesla will replace it for free. Battery can be swapped without leaving your car. Different battery packs can be purchased from Tesla.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;44207655]Maybe one day we will be able to after the market grows and innovation grows with it.
Welcome to how the world works[/QUOTE]
Itll be quite some time before itll be affordable to upgrade the motors on a Tesla by yourself. Unless you find a Tesla in a scrap yard, of course
Tampering with the battery void the warranty and it can kill you very fast if you don't do it right.
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[QUOTE=FordLord;44207727]Itll be quite some time before itll be affordable to upgrade the motors on a Tesla by yourself. Unless you find a Tesla in a scrap yard, of course[/QUOTE]
They're replaced for free unless you intentionally broke it.
[QUOTE=OvB;44207731]Tampering with the battery void the warranty and it can kill you very fast if you don't do it right.
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They're replaced for free unless you intentionally broke it.[/QUOTE]
You seem to be missing the key point, are you new to cars?
Upgrading the motor yourself generally means purposely voiding the warrenty to install a better/more powerful motor
[QUOTE=Zeke129;44207329]That's it's strongest point, in my opinion. It's an electric car that doesn't look like it came out of an 8 year old's fantasy of the future.
Granted, it doesn't look like a $100,000 car, but it's still nice.[/QUOTE]
I like the design too, but rather because it looks like a Jag. And I [i]fuckin' love Jags[/i].
[t]http://www.jaguarorlando.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/JaguarXF.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=FordLord;44207767]You seem to be missing the key point, are you new to cars?
Upgrading the motor yourself generally means purposely voiding the warrenty to install a better/more powerful motor[/QUOTE]
If you know how to tamper with electronic circuits without cooking yourself I don't see any reason why you couldn't. However the rest of the car is optimized to work with that particular motor and you'd probably need to upgrade everything down the line in order for it to not fry on you. But tampering with the high voltage system is considerably more dangerous than replacing a few parts on an ICE engine.
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I don't think EVs will replace ICE. I think they'll just take over a large portion of the work. Enthusiasts and Jeremy Clarkson fans will always have their cars.
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Except they'll be running off clean algae fuel.
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And that's a future I agree with because I understand the love for loud motors. But my future daily driver will be a Tesla.
[QUOTE=OvB;44207152][url]http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/tesla-delivery-alaska-0[/url]
:v:[/QUOTE]
Lol. Read all the posts made by Don, he really doesn't like Obama.
[QUOTE=Martele;44207054]notice how purchases are low in the retard states
hyuk hyuk[/QUOTE]
Or its because theirs a severe lack of Tesla Charger stations in those states, so people don't buy Tesla Cars for economic reasons?
[QUOTE=TestECull;44207512]Oh I do. I'm an equal opportunity hater when it comes to electric cars. I don't care who made it, if it's a battery electric I would love nothing more than to see it used as a target for training M1 Abrams tank gunners. I think the entire premise behind a battery electric is a fucking stupid yuppietastic pipe dream that will never be truly practical in the real world and that we should stop fucking around with them and start working on making alternative fuels for piston engines and building out the infrastructure to support hydrogen fuel cells instead.
Still they have a right to be on the market if people want to buy them and they meet federal safety standards.[/QUOTE]
1) fuel cells are PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE, being that platinum/ceramic/polymer based catalysts are all very expensive
2) fuel cells will only be viable if a sufficient source of platinum, far greater than the world's reserves of the metal were discovered or became commercially viable
3) actually go and use a trip clock in your car when you do a commute, you'll find you won't go more than 100 miles a day unless you are one of those people who commute between cities, in which case electric cars aren't for you anyways
4) the range on the tesla is 200+ miles, the range on the leef is ~150 miles, the range on plug in hybrids is usually ~100 miles, which means you can do your daily drive and have some left over on a leaf, a lot of range leftover on a tesla, and some range on your plug-in which is offset by the added gas engine.
electric cars aren't stupid, useless, or impractical pipe dreams, they are very much practical, people aren't being realistic. besides, hydrogen cars still need batteries...a FCV would be configured very similar to a plug in hybrid today...
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44208531]Or its because theirs a severe lack of Tesla Charger stations in those states, so people don't buy Tesla Cars for economic reasons?[/QUOTE]
Areas with a lot of Tesla customers were given priority when they chose where to build the stations. Would make no sense to build a charger where it will never be used. That's why the first three were in California, then New York and Texas, then they connected them cross country. Time to fill in the gaps and add battery swappers.
Someone drove up in a Lotus while I was working and I didn't even care.
But I fanboy'd so hard when someone drove up in a Model S
[QUOTE=Sableye;44208601]1) fuel cells are PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE, being that platinum/ceramic/polymer based catalysts are all very expensive
2) fuel cells will only be viable if a sufficient source of platinum, far greater than the world's reserves of the metal were discovered or became commercially viable
3) actually go and use a trip clock in your car when you do a commute, you'll find you won't go more than 100 miles a day unless you are one of those people who commute between cities, in which case electric cars aren't for you anyways
4) the range on the tesla is 200+ miles, the range on the leef is ~150 miles, the range on plug in hybrids is usually ~100 miles, which means you can do your daily drive and have some left over on a leaf, a lot of range leftover on a tesla, and some range on your plug-in which is offset by the added gas engine.
electric cars aren't stupid, useless, or impractical pipe dreams, they are very much practical, people aren't being realistic. besides, hydrogen cars still need batteries...a FCV would be configured very similar to a plug in hybrid today...[/QUOTE]
Once the battery swappers are up at every Tesla station long distance travel will be no issue. It would actually be faster and more practical to be in a Tesla.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;44207621]I won't stop people from making or driving electric cars, but I never want one. I can replace any part on my current car myself, in my driveway, without having much to worry about. Can you replace the brushes in those electric motors in your driveway? What about the batteries? What about upgrading it for more power? See, these are the things I don't like about electrics. I'm not downing people who own them, they just aren't my cup of tea personally.....[/QUOTE]
well they use brush less motors and i doubt you would ever come across a more powerful battery pack that fits in your car, but if you want the whole thing unbolts right off the bottom of the car...
Ah yes I see my glorious home government is once again making the choices best for me and my state. Thank you glorious overlord Christie.
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