World War II’s Strangest Battle: When Americans and Germans Fought Together - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Raidyr;40641344]Except that time where they firebombed civilians by the city load.[/QUOTE] The Brits did a number on Dresden too.

[QUOTE=Chronische;40642082]I mean, a single division would be doomed to fail, so they would have to hook up with someone. The russians, the allies? Perhaps there are neonazis in the group who lead some people to join the nazis, giving them advanced technology? All kinds of cool things could happen. Too bad a game like that will never, ever be made.[/QUOTE] The last people a modern German division would ally themselves with would be the Russians. The Russians were absolutely notorious for raping German women and girls. If anything the modern division would march onto the Eastern front and demolish the Soviet union before a cold war is started. It's not like the whole premise of time travelling Germans fighting old Germans isn't stupid to begin with.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40642230]The last people a modern German division would ally themselves with would be the Russians. The Russians were absolutely notorious for raping German women and girls. If anything the modern division would march onto the Eastern front and demolish the Soviet union before a cold war is started. It's not like the whole premise of time travelling Germans fighting old Germans isn't stupid to begin with.[/QUOTE] :C

I think a game about some lads in the Wehrmacht would be really interesting. Write up the characters well enough and people would enjoy it.

[QUOTE=Valiantttt;40641698]Indeed, I love those uniforms and that is why I like the Commisairs in WH40K(who were no doubt inspired by the SS uniforms). Thanks Hugo Boss for giving the Germans such nice outfits.... Anyway, Most of the germans never voted for hitler and the Wehrmacht was on the same levelish as the Allied armies in morale, only the SS and the core Nazi Party were people who did the horrible things.[/QUOTE] Hitler received only about 25% of the vote, but he struck a political deal to become Chancellor, which at the time was less powerful than the President.

[QUOTE=Fort83;40641902]I half expected them to be fighting zombies or aliens or something.[/QUOTE] Zombie aliens edit: wearing nazi uniforms

[QUOTE=-Rusty-;40642330]Zombie aliens edit: wearing nazi uniforms[/QUOTE] From the future.

The idea about a game where modern units fight WW2 era units reminds me of the missions I used to make in Operation: Flashpoint. it had a large amount of mods, and a very easy to use mission editor. Eventually I made scenario's like one modern American panzer unit VS an entire army of World War 1 Britons. I'm pretty sure modern German soldiers would be available and so are WW2 era germans units. I think there even might be enough mods floating around to do this in ARMA 2.

[QUOTE=DVH;40641272]Why the fuck isn't this a movie yet? Hollywood would love this kind of stuff.[/QUOTE] [quote]There are two primary heroes of this—as I must reiterate, entirely factual—story, both of them straight out of central casting. Jack Lee was the quintessential warrior: smart, aggressive, innovative—and, of course, a cigar-chewing, hard-drinking man who watched out for his troops and was willing to think way, way outside the box when the tactical situation demanded it, as it certainly did once the Waffen-SS started to assault the castle. The other was the much-decorated Wehrmacht officer Major Josef ‘Sepp’ Gangl, who died helping the Americans protect the VIPs. This is the first time that Gangl’s story has been told in English, though he is rightly honored in present-day Austria and Germany as a hero of the anti-Nazi resistance.[/quote] I can already see Brad Pitt and Christoph Waltz in these roles. That would just print money.

Wasn't there a game on the Xbox 360 with you fighting the SS as a Wehrmacht officer? It was made by the same people who made Company of Heroes I believe.

Crazy battles like these are very interesting. There was another battle, if you could call it that, in WW1 on Christmas. [url]http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce[/url]

[QUOTE=MattSif;40641336]Defending our ally in South Korea wasn't heroic?[/QUOTE] no. we murdered north koreans and leftists and committed war crimes that people were hanged in the nuremberg trials for.

It's not so much surprising as it is sad how they didn't fight together more often. The Wehrmacht, especially towards the end of the war, was just filled with regular guys and kids following orders and a lot of them were against the whole SS/Nazi view.

[QUOTE=deltasquid;40641418]I always thought that certain stories would be amazing to tell from the German point of view, about Germans who fought for their country, and not for the nazis. This seems like an interesting story to tell.[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;J6thQKSNBSo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6thQKSNBSo[/video] [video][URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pzKyeIex2Y[/URL][/video]

[QUOTE=Steff;40642860][video=youtube;J6thQKSNBSo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6thQKSNBSo[/video] [video][URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pzKyeIex2Y[/URL][/video][/QUOTE] Watched Stalingrad for the first time a couple of weeks ago, it was amazing!

[QUOTE=MattSif;40641336]Defending our ally in South Korea wasn't heroic?[/QUOTE] South Korea was not an ally at the time. The only reason they stepped in was in fear of the Domino theory

omg im crying just thinking about how awesome a movie about this would be

[QUOTE=MattSif;40641336]Defending our ally in South Korea wasn't heroic?[/QUOTE] except the only reason we were there was because we were scared of another nations ideology and MacArthur needed to fill his yearly blood lust quota since he wasn't allowed to invade Japan at the end of WWII.

[QUOTE=MattSif;40641336]Defending our ally in South Korea wasn't heroic?[/QUOTE] I think MASH sort of soiled that war for a lot of people.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;40641356]SS soldiers are basically zealots. There were a few instances in where some camps and holdouts had to be fought even after the official surrender.[/QUOTE] Not even all of the Schutzstaffel were fanatics. The Waffen SS were, but for example auxiliary SS troops were far from being fanatic. Hell, auxiliary SS had several ethnicities, so-called "lower races" too.

That's pretty interesting to hear about.

[QUOTE=MattSif;40641336]Defending our ally in South Korea wasn't heroic?[/QUOTE] I remember watching something on the history channel saying that most South/North Koreans didn't really care and just wanted the war to end.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40642727]no. we murdered north koreans and leftists and committed war crimes that people were hanged in the nuremberg trials for.[/QUOTE] We've committed war crimes in WW2 as well that were heinous, D-Day executions, allowed the French to just murder German troopers with no repercussions (See Band of Brothers), etc. [QUOTE=hypno-toad;40643002]South Korea was not an ally at the time. The only reason they stepped in was in fear of the Domino theory[/QUOTE] We established South Korea as a nation when we agreed to cut Korea in half with the Soviets. I don't see how they wouldn't be an ally in that case.

[QUOTE='[Green];40643182']Not even all of the Schutzstaffel were fanatics. The Waffen SS were, but for example auxiliary SS troops were far from being fanatic. Hell, auxiliary SS had several ethnicities, so-called "lower races" too.[/QUOTE] Actually near the end of the war, the SS became more or less a foreigner army as opposed to the elite second army that the nazis envisioned at first.

[QUOTE=laserguided;40641371]But that was terrorism with good intentions![/QUOTE] Stop. Get it through your heads, people. It was WAR. People DIE in war, like it or not. Things aren't always black-and-white, sometimes horrendous shit has to be done for the greater good. It sounds cliché, I know, but it's true.

[QUOTE=MattSif;40643758]We've committed war crimes in WW2 as well that were heinous, D-Day executions, allowed the French to just murder German troopers with no repercussions (See Band of Brothers), etc. [/QUOTE] that's true as well. war itself is criminal.

i just had a ideal When a American platoon finds a Germany castle that holds a secret that will could change everything,they find documents of codename :Iron Storm: the concept of army of power armored super soldiers and there a battalion of them coming right at them so they have no choice but to give several of the surrendered German soldiers prototypes of the power armor. so basely iron man but with Nazis

I misread and thought they were defending cattle for a minute. :v:

Reality really is stranger than fiction sometimes.

[QUOTE=KingNick220;40642689]Wasn't there a game on the Xbox 360 with you fighting the SS as a Wehrmacht officer? It was made by the same people who made Company of Heroes I believe.[/QUOTE] There was a game called The Outfit where you can play as a Wehrmacht general, it was pretty fun.